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  • Michael Jackson Dies

    http://www.tmz.com/

    LA Times says hes in coma
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...teve-ruda.html
    Last edited by XtreemGreen; 06-25-2009, 05:13 PM.


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  • #2
    WOW! That's really sad. He was an amazing entertainer.
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    • #3
      yeah i heard it on the news, it sucks.

      the world feels small when someone big dies.

      once Schwarzenegger goes, I'll live in a bubble!

      They announced his death on the radio when I picked up money from a customer. My customer ended up paying me too much, then he said, "keep it!"

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      • #4
        Yep, really sad. We all made fun of the guy and he was definately strange to most people, and most of this was a result of his over-the-top fame combined with the fact that he didn't go into public much or do interviews, late night talk shows, etc. I grew up with MJ, and Thriller was my first record (4th and 5th grade). I always thought he was really misunderstood but a good, caring person at heart. Pop really isn't my thing, but watching him dance was like watching something unhuman. He was just so amazing and talented. I don't think anyone can really relate to a life like that, and it would be hard going through his legal issues in public like that, and being made fun of on every comedy or late night talk show. Today the world lost its greatest performer and pop icon of all time if you ask me.
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        • #5
          Yep, really sad. We all made fun of the guy and he was definately strange to most peo

          Couldn't have said it better man!
          He was definately a little out there, however he was a good person at heart and that's what separated him from all the others.
          Kendrick
          Cedar Lawn Care Services, LLC
          Kirksville, MO

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          • #6
            My dad (RIP) loved his music back in the 80's.. When I would come down to visit him on holidays, we would get the mic's and sing and try to dance along with his music..

            I read somewhere once that he had more fans world wide than any other musician around.. I believe it to..

            RIP MJ...


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            • #7
              I know this will probably get me shunned here since we have a bunch of Jerkson fans here, but I gotta say it. I will NOT miss him. I have NO respect for him. I cared nothing for his music but that has nothing to do with my opinion of him. He apparently was a hypnotic entertainer and was loved for his entertaining abilities. Though I did not care for his music or entertaining style, this does not affect my opinion of him.

              I believe he was a low life child molesting, pedofile, pervert idiot with a lot of money. And just because he was not convicted of it, means nothing. Just like OJ, he had enough money to get out of his criminal charges. Remember; if it walks like a pig, looks like a pig, smells like a pig, and sounds like a pig, it probably is a pig. Michael Jackson was a pervert. In every sense of the word. Period.

              Remember the Bible says in Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

              Like I said, this will probably get me shunned here, but I call things like I see them.

              Thats my opinion,
              Eli

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              • #8
                Well, first of all, yes I was a MJ fan in 5th grade, but I'm 36 and the farthest thing from a fan now, but even though his music isn't my cup of tea, I can still see his great talent and ability, and I'm not sure how it can be denied. Second, no, you won't be shunned for your opinion. I usually don't have many great things to say about him but when someone dies, I usually try to recognize the good things about that person, as I try to do when they're alive. MJ was a product of our society, born to be put on display with never a moment to himself, and nowhere on the entire globe he could go and be left alone. He was miserable and obviously hated his life, which would explain all the surgery trying to change himself, yet he never lashed out dropping f bombs at the media or anyone else. I know I wouldn't have that kind of control. And when you consider all of the untrue things said about him, its not crazy to think that some kid's mom would want to get money from him by accusing him of hurting children. There are lots of sick people out there. I'm not defending MJ, because I don't know if he's guilty or not, but since you're quoting the bible, here's Mathew 7:1-2 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." In other words, start with "the man in the mirror". Haha, good one huh? I have kids, and if anyone ever did anything to them, I'd be in jail for a very brutal murder, but he was found not guilty and who knows? What if he was innocent and his entire life was ruined because he really cared about kids. I'm just saying its possible, and if he's innocent, what the world did to him is one of the greatest injustices of all time. Just don't confuse saying a few nice words when someone dies with being fans and loving the guy.
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                • #9
                  Well, first of all, yes I was a MJ fan in 5th grade, but I'm 36 and the farthest thing from a fan now, but even though his music isn't my cup of tea, I can still see his great talent and ability, and I'm not sure how it can be denied. Second, no, you won't be shunned for your opinion. I usually don't have many great things to say about him but when someone dies, I usually try to recognize the good things about that person, as I try to do when they're alive. MJ was a product of our society, born to be put on display with never a moment to himself, and nowhere on the entire globe he could go and be left alone. He was miserable and obviously hated his life, which would explain all the surgery trying to change himself, yet he never lashed out dropping f bombs at the media or anyone else. I know I wouldn't have that kind of control. And when you consider all of the untrue things said about him, its not crazy to think that some kid's mom would want to get money from him by accusing him of hurting children. There are lots of sick people out there. I'm not defending MJ, because I don't know if he's guilty or not, but since you're quoting the bible, here's Mathew 7:1-2 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." In other words, start with "the man in the mirror". Haha, good one huh? I have kids, and if anyone ever did anything to them, I'd be in jail for a very brutal murder, but he was found not guilty and who knows? What if he was innocent and his entire life was ruined because he really cared about kids. I'm just saying its possible, and if he's innocent, what the world did to him is one of the greatest injustices of all time. Just don't confuse saying a few nice words when someone dies with being fans and loving the guy.
                  Excellent post!

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                  • #10
                    I agree. Very Well Said.
                    Kendrick
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                    Kirksville, MO

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                    • #11
                      I know this will probably get me shunned here since we have a bunch of Jerkson fans here, but I gotta say it. I will NOT miss him. I have NO respect for him. I cared nothing for his music but that has nothing to do with my opinion of him. He apparently was a hypnotic entertainer and was loved for his entertaining abilities. Though I did not care for his music or entertaining style, this does not affect my opinion of him.

                      I believe he was a low life child molesting, pedofile, pervert idiot with a lot of money. And just because he was not convicted of it, means nothing. Just like OJ, he had enough money to get out of his criminal charges. Remember; if it walks like a pig, looks like a pig, smells like a pig, and sounds like a pig, it probably is a pig. Michael Jackson was a pervert. In every sense of the word. Period.

                      Remember the Bible says in Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

                      Like I said, this will probably get me shunned here, but I call things like I see them.

                      Thats my opinion,
                      Eli
                      Good Post, +1

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                      • #12
                        I'm not defending MJ, because I don't know if he's guilty or not, but since you're quoting the bible, here's Mathew 7:1-2 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
                        Let me say a few things. First, this was not directed at you or any other specific person on this forum.

                        With that in mind, let say this about your last post, specifically the part you quoted.

                        1, I was not judging MJ

                        2, This scripture is possibly the most misquoted and misunderstood of all. This happens to have been directed to those who were doing the same thing that they accused others of doing. Thus, the "Matthew 7:2-5 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." They were hypocrites because they were doing the same thing as the ones they were judging. Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. With that in mind, no I was not judging him and I was not disobeying the Bible.

                        3, Matthew 7:16-20 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. This is not "judging" them as you put it, but rather "observing fruit".

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                        • #13
                          Don't "king james" me to death man! I don't have that kind of an edjikashin. The part I was relating to, and I should've made it clear, was the " and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." I wouldn't want to be judged by the measure of what the media says, and if thats the standard of guilt or innocents, we're in trouble. Nobody knows his heart but God, and he's doing the judging. Please don't put me in the position of defending him, because he could be totally guilty, I have no idea. The guy just died and I was saying something good about him. Its a trait I got from my grandfather, always trying to find good in people. It takes a concious effort, and something I always work on. Also,I'm not going to get into a bible verse war with you. As you know, you can pretty much find a verse to back up anything, but saying something nice about someone is usually the better, more honorable way to go. I really don't care what you think of him, and if I was sure he was a child molester I'd be right with you, but like my mom always says, "If you don't have anything nice to say,..." well, you know the rest, especially when that person just died. I'm done with this argument, I just don't care that much. If you reply with more verses, do me a favor and "dumb it down" to the NIV version ok? As for the part where you said you weren't judging him, let me refresh your memory. "And just because he was not convicted of it, means nothing. Just like OJ, he had enough money to get out of his criminal charges. Remember; if it walks like a pig, looks like a pig, smells like a pig, and sounds like a pig, it probably is a pig. Michael Jackson was a pervert. In every sense of the word. Period" I wasn't going to bring that up because now I know you won't be able to resist replying, so have the last word, and I have no hard feelings and respect your opinion, and I've told my share of MJ jokes, but I can't help feeling bad for him and its a shame when anyone's life ends early.
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                          • #14
                            Let Him Die

                            Ok, I agree with Elli, But I did play his music when I was YOUNGER.
                            So with that said, HE IS DEAD! Let him die pep.
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                            • #15
                              OK, one last post on this thread and then I'm ducking out. I was thinking about this thread all day and here's my final thought. First of all he was ACCUSED, not CONVICTED. There's a HUGE difference. Anyone can accuse anyone of anything. Lord knows I've been accused of a lot of things, however when it came to someone proving it, they stuttered on thier lies. Now don't get me wrong here, I'm definately not an angel, and I have done many things I've regretted. That's how we as humans learn. Here's my final thought: We were speaking of the Bible and I remembered a part I read that I think makes a good point. In this passage, Jesus had sat down next to a well that a lady was drawing water from. Later in the passage men come from town and tell Jesus that she's an adulterer. They try to convince Jesus to join them in stoning her for her sins. Jesus replies that he who is without sin may cast the first stone. Now I'm not a preacher, nor a saint. However I do believe in my religion and I try to be the best I can be. None of us are without sin. NONE. So none of us should be casting stones at another who is not without sin. Okay, enough of my rant and enough of my Bible verses, as this isn't a Religion Forum. Just my opinions and not aimed at anyone.
                              Kendrick
                              Cedar Lawn Care Services, LLC
                              Kirksville, MO

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