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    I finished leveling 6 loads of fill today and three loads of top soil, installed 200 feet of drain for a new client.

    I finished around 8 this evening, they were very happy. Then the husband said we want you to build out inter locking rock wall, it's 84 feet long and we want it 30" high, I guess the surprised look on my face prompted the next question when the wife said "I know it's not listed in your services but you know how to build one right?" I said I built my own at home but never thought of building for others. "Well it's settled then, here is a picture of the brick we want, any idea when you can start?"

    Found this one funny, I can build it with a helper and make a really good buck doing it, they never did ask for a price, guess that is the way it is when you are both doctors, just get it done.

    Anyhow these walls are simple to build and perhaps another service the users here could consider.

    Andy
    Andy
    Halifax, Nova Scotia

  • #2
    Oh fascinating! Would this be a retaining wall? Or a more decorative wall?
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    • #3
      Oh fascinating! Would this be a retaining wall? Or a more decorative wall?
      18" will retain a wall along the driveway then 12" +/- will extend above the grass. I have all the equipment to do it drom digging to placing sand, level and compact, it's something that never crossed my mind. So I have Wednesday as a give quotes and run errands day, well half of it, I plan to call around and see if there are many guys in this business, I have never seen lettering on a vehicle to this effect.

      So I told them of a very close friend who is a Blacksmith and does amazing art work, they called Scott and he will be doing a railing that will go on top of my wall. Here is his work http://www.scotianironworks.com/main.htm

      Another business idea is lawn sweeping, I do advertise it and have done a few, it's a 60" pull behind sweeper that removes thatch, leaves, twigs, small rocks etc. Anyhow with University out and more staff coming on, I sent an email to a few real estate companies along the lines that clean swept lawn could mean a few thousand dollars to the seller.

      Did that on Friday late in the day, I received four calls today from real estate agents and have 11 properties for the guys to start doing. Now to cover my butt I asked for a credit card # and informed them we would bill the morning we set out, rate is $75.00 an hour min $35.00 fee.

      I think this will take off as neighbours will see what an amazing job it does and who wants to hand rake a lawn, gosh even I would pay someone $75.00 to do mine.

      Andy
      Andy
      Halifax, Nova Scotia

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      • #4
        Your blacksmith friend does amazing work! OUTSTANDING work! I bet if you start offering this service, he could send you a lot of business as well.


        Another business idea is lawn sweeping
        I'd love to see some before and after pictures of this.

        Do you explain to the customers that this service will not only remove leaves but also rocks and other objects? Or how best can you convey to the customer what this really is?

        For the average person, this might sound like you are using a hand held broom to sweep the lawn.
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        • #5
          New Service?

          I finished leveling 6 loads of fill today and three loads of top soil, installed 200 feet of drain for a new client.

          I finished around 8 this evening, they were very happy. Then the husband said we want you to build out inter locking rock wall, it's 84 feet long and we want it 30" high, I guess the surprised look on my face prompted the next question when the wife said "I know it's not listed in your services but you know how to build one right?" I said I built my own at home but never thought of building for others. "Well it's settled then, here is a picture of the brick we want, any idea when you can start?"

          Found this one funny, I can build it with a helper and make a really good buck doing it, they never did ask for a price, guess that is the way it is when you are both doctors, just get it done.

          Anyhow these walls are simple to build and perhaps another service the users here could consider.

          Andy
          I gave a quote for a 35' hedge today and the homeowner asked if I would install an electric dog fence around his frot yard? I've heard of them but have no idea how to estimate one. Googelng now for info.

          At the way things are going by nest year I'll have to have my own Yellow Pages to cover all the services people want!

          Steve

          Oh, by the way, the gator is gone.


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          • #6
            I gave a quote for a 35' hedge today and the homeowner asked if I would install an electric dog fence around his frot yard? I've heard of them but have no idea how to estimate one. Googelng now for info.

            At the way things are going by nest year I'll have to have my own Yellow Pages to cover all the services people want!

            Steve

            Oh, by the way, the gator is gone.
            Steve,
            I have put these in in the past.
            I used a edger to cut the slot around the perimeter that the customer wanted done. Then you just tuck the wire in. It works pretty sweet. Usually wired the control box in the garage. If you have to run wire across a concrete sidewalk or driveway you just tuck the wire in the tooled or sawed joint in the concrete then use silicone caulk on top of wire. Hope that helps you.
            TURF

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            • #7
              Thanks

              Steve,
              I have put these in in the past.
              I used a edger to cut the slot around the perimeter that the customer wanted done. Then you just tuck the wire in. It works pretty sweet. Usually wired the control box in the garage. If you have to run wire across a concrete sidewalk or driveway you just tuck the wire in the tooled or sawed joint in the concrete then use silicone caulk on top of wire. Hope that helps you.
              TURF
              Thank you, I found instructions on Google about using the edger but they said to use a concrete saw for the walks and driveways. I like your idea better.

              How did you charge for labor? by the foot or what? I was thinking about charging by the foot for material and labor. What do you think?

              Steve


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              • #8
                The last one I did was about 5 years ago. At that time I charged $1.00/ft plus materials.
                I used a wood stir stick for paint cans to push the wire in the slot .
                Last edited by turfmaster; 04-27-2009, 11:46 PM.

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                • #9
                  Thanks again

                  It gives me a place to start. I told the man I would get back to him Wednesday or Thursday so I have a little time to 'cuss and discuss'
                  my way through figuring the bid.

                  Steve


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                  • #10
                    At that time I charged $1.00/ft plus materials.
                    Did you add any markup to the materials?

                    How much does it cost to get the electronics and all that for this project?
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                    • #11
                      Costs

                      Did you add any markup to the materials?

                      How much does it cost to get the electronics and all that for this project?
                      Kit $99.99
                      Extra Wire $69.99
                      Total $169.98 Shippping Included


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                      • #12
                        Quick 3am bid

                        Kit $99.99
                        Extra Wire $69.99
                        Total $169.98 Shippping Included
                        Material $170.00 + 25% ~ $214.00
                        Labor
                        Run wire @ 6 feet per minute 166 minutes
                        Install hardware 60 minutes
                        Test 60 minutes
                        Total minutes 280 ~ 4.7 hours
                        4.7 hours @ $50.00 per hour $235.00

                        Bid $449.00 + tax on material ($35.92) = $484.92


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                        • #13
                          Your blacksmith friend does amazing work! OUTSTANDING work! I bet if you start offering this service, he could send you a lot of business as well.



                          I'd love to see some before and after pictures of this.

                          Do you explain to the customers that this service will not only remove leaves but also rocks and other objects? Or how best can you convey to the customer what this really is?

                          For the average person, this might sound like you are using a hand held broom to sweep the lawn.
                          I talked Scott (Blacksmith) into leaving a job that didn't pay that well 12 years ago and going full time, now he makes real money, we are very close friends and yes we refer clients to each other however he lives outside my service area, at the same time most of his clients are in the city.

                          For sweeping we simply explain to the customer or prospect that we operate a pull power sweeper that hooks onto one of our garden tractors, using their lawn as an example we would say that it would remove those twigs, rocks, dead grass etc.

                          I will take some pictures tomorrow as I am doing a 12 hours excavation job today myself and I don't trust the camera to the hands of the guys.
                          Andy
                          Halifax, Nova Scotia

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                          • #14
                            I gave a quote for a 35' hedge today and the homeowner asked if I would install an electric dog fence around his frot yard? I've heard of them but have no idea how to estimate one. Googelng now for info.

                            At the way things are going by nest year I'll have to have my own Yellow Pages to cover all the services people want!

                            Steve

                            Oh, by the way, the gator is gone.
                            Steve, another product is Pet Safe wireless fence, it is what I use for my Portugese Water Dog, I have four acres and two units, that gives her about 2 1/2 acres of free space. I went wireless as the cost to have a wire unit was close to three grand, we have a desperate amount of bedrock.
                            Andy
                            Halifax, Nova Scotia

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                            • #15
                              Material $170.00 + 25% ~ $214.00
                              Labor
                              Run wire @ 6 feet per minute 166 minutes
                              Install hardware 60 minutes
                              Test 60 minutes
                              Total minutes 280 ~ 4.7 hours
                              4.7 hours @ $50.00 per hour $235.00

                              Bid $449.00 + tax on material ($35.92) = $484.92
                              Steve,
                              When you say run wire @ 6 feet per min is that the time for trenching ?
                              Are you running about 996 ft of wire ?

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