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  • #31
    Hello all,
    I was having a time getting my company exposure in my local area without spending my entire budget on Google PPC and Adwords. Then a friend told me about LocalAdLink and how their advertising targets by zip codes with IP addresses. I didn't really understand it so I investigated it more. Basically for my area of service, which is about 3 or 4 zip codes, I could get my company's ad directory listed for about 70 bucks a month with no contract. And what is so cool is that they send my ad lsiting around on their 3rd party websites, like landscaping.com, marthastewart.com,Davesgarden.com and some other related type websites. Then while all of LocalAdLinks advertisers are linked to one website, I am looking popular to the search engines becasue they are all linked to one website, LocalAdLink's. They had over 14 million hits last month alone. Now my website search rankings are on the front page and I am reaching my "qualified customers". Needless to say I was impressed and started working with them on the side as the winter months are brutal in this industry. If you would like more info, please go to http://localadlink.com and click on "about us" to learn more. And feel free to call me at 404-775-5876, as LocalAdLink is in every city and town in the US.
    You can do the exact same thing yourself on your own with your Google Adwords account. You simply create an ad (takes a few minutes), set your bid price, activate geo-targeting inside your Google Adwords account settings, and then you can even go in and tell Google exactly which websites you for-sure want them to go after.

    No need to pay someone like Local Adlink to do this for you. You can do it yourself easy and save the $70 per month. I spend way less than that each month to have our ads pop up on website via Google Geo targeting ads.

    But I'll warn you, geotargeting ads don't produce a lot of calls. What really produces a lot of calls is being on top of Google in the organic listings. Type in "landscaping Portland Oregon" into Google and see who's site comes up on top in the regular (organic) results. That's what produces calls.
    Jim Lewis
    Lewis Landscape Services - Oregon

    www.lewislandscape.com - Landscape Design Portland Oregon

    "kickin' grass and takin' names"

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    • #32
      Jim, you know what is interesting. I have seen your ads appear here on the forum once in a while. How is that explained? Why does google do that? Any thoughts on that?
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      • #33
        Jim, you know what is interesting. I have seen your ads appear here on the forum once in a while. How is that explained? Why does google do that? Any thoughts on that?
        I don't have geo-targeting set on all my ads. But I don't like those kind of ads much anyway. So I give them such a small bid that I don't care so much if they occasionally appear outside the area I am targeting. I could spend the time to make every ad I have specifically geo-targeted, if I wanted. But the thing is sometimes my clients are away in California or have two homes or are just moving into our area. So most of my stuff is geared more toward specific key words more than it is geo targeted. And I pay so little for those little ads anyway, I don't really care.

        My PPC main ads in Google and Yahoo, those I pay some serious dough for. The bid price on those is pretty high. But the bid price for these little text ads is ike 40 cents and they rarely get clicked on. I spend less than $20 a month on those. So I've never felt the need to really get them totally dialed in like I would like them. It's just additional advertising.

        My main advertising is getting my site to the top of the Google organic listings. My fall-back is PPC advertising with Google and Yahoo. And then I have several other fall-backs to catch people too.
        Jim Lewis
        Lewis Landscape Services - Oregon

        www.lewislandscape.com - Landscape Design Portland Oregon

        "kickin' grass and takin' names"

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        • #34
          Jim,

          Keep paying PPC. Don't you know why your PPC is so expensive? They pay people to go on those sponsored links and click on them all day. It is well known in the industry that that is done. Sorry to inform you that those were not all customers. So don't pay for LocalAdLink, but you will never find yourself in a sponsored link like this company in Sacremento, judge for yourself the benefits. Try to Google it yourself. There will be many more like this and you will soon see your competition using us. Best wishes
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          • #35
            Landscaping.com

            You can do the exact same thing yourself on your own with your Google Adwords account. You simply create an ad (takes a few minutes), set your bid price, activate geo-targeting inside your Google Adwords account settings, and then you can even go in and tell Google exactly which websites you for-sure want them to go after.

            No need to pay someone like Local Adlink to do this for you. You can do it yourself easy and save the $70 per month. I spend way less than that each month to have our ads pop up on website via Google Geo targeting ads.

            But I'll warn you, geotargeting ads don't produce a lot of calls. What really produces a lot of calls is being on top of Google in the organic listings. Type in "landscaping Portland Oregon" into Google and see who's site comes up on top in the regular (organic) results. That's what produces calls.
            So don't count on having your adwords show up on popular sites like DavesGarden.com,Landscaping.com,Bloom.com and MarthaStewart.com. I am only trying to help local companies and you are trying to dissuade people into believing they can do what LocalAdLink can do.

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            • #36
              Like I said, I don't care too much whether my ads come up on those sites or not. I could specify those exact sites for my ad to come up if I wanted to. Google allows you to place your ads on specific sites. But again, those ads aren't what brings in the money for us.
              Jim Lewis
              Lewis Landscape Services - Oregon

              www.lewislandscape.com - Landscape Design Portland Oregon

              "kickin' grass and takin' names"

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              • #37
                Jim,

                Keep paying PPC. Don't you know why your PPC is so expensive? They pay people to go on those sponsored links and click on them all day. It is well known in the industry that that is done. Sorry to inform you that those were not all customers.
                I know very well why I pay so much for PPC. It's a little expensive but well worth the results. For instance, last June our Google Adwords bill was a little over $1350.00. But our total sales just for that month were $186,000. A good half of those jobs or so came from people finding us via a regular Google search. And back then, I didn't know about SEO so my site wasn't coming up on organic listings. It was only coming up via my paid PPC ad.

                So once you start getting those kind of results with your $70 ad, let me know. Maybe then I'll be interested in checking it out. But for my money, I am happy to stick with PPC, even despite the larger monthly payment. Results don't lie.

                As for the click fraud you're referring to. That doesn't happen much, if at all. My analytics program allows me to track every single hit I get on my website, where it came from, what search term they used to find me (if they used a search engine), what their IP address is, which pages they checked out, how long they stayed on each page, what country they are from, what browser they are using, etc. I review that stuff fairly regularly. I've never seen someone who came to my site for just a few seconds (e.g. just to cause me a click rate charge) and left and did that repeatedly in the same day. I might be overlooking a few here and there. But I can tell by reviewing my analytics that most of the people visiting our site are legitimate interested parties and they are spending usually several minutes on the site. So I don't buy your click fraud argument. I think you're exaggerating.

                By the way, why so defensive? You own the company or something? I'm just telling you what works. And that you can do the same exact thing via Google Adwords if you want. If you don't want, fine. Stick to that other company. I got no dog in this fight. Not like I am in love with Google or anything. They are a giant corporate behemoth like Microsoft. And I typically don't like companies like that. But they bring me in a lot of business and it works. So I am just sharing my experience. But hey, if this thing is producing stellar results for all you guys, don't let me rain on your parade. Keep it up.
                Last edited by jimlewis; 02-12-2009, 12:26 PM.
                Jim Lewis
                Lewis Landscape Services - Oregon

                www.lewislandscape.com - Landscape Design Portland Oregon

                "kickin' grass and takin' names"

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                • #38
                  Good for you

                  Well, Not everyone is as fortunate as you are Jim, or educated in Google adwords. I applaud your success and wish only the best. Also, I am not getting defensive only refuting that our advertising does different things and seeks out "qualified customers" through contextual reading technology. They don't have to be necessarily searching for a particular service or company to see a something they are interested in. That's all I am saying. As well as we help optimize by being connected to our website. Did your site Jim get 1 million hits last month? Not to brag but our advertisers all received over 15 million. That's all I am saying. Happy mowing and keep kickin grass

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                  • #39
                    Jim,

                    Chris was very nice enough to offer one of our members a free trial of his services, maybe you could be the one to try it out and since you are more in the know about internet advertising than many of us, you would be in a better position than most to know how to compare the results with other avenues you have experimented with.
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                    • #40
                      I guess I didn't realize this was Chris' company. I didn't mean to be rude or dog someone's business. I just thought it was someone on this forum saying, "Hey, check out this website you can get your company listed with...." And I've seen a million sites like that come and go over the years. Still hundreds out there now even trying to get contractor's money and promising the moon. Places like Merchant Circle, ClickSmart, and hundreds more.

                      I admit, I didn't look into how Chris' company worked much. I didn't even realize it was his company. I just thought it was another of the same things I've seen hundreds of times.

                      So my apologies.

                      I am willing to look into it. When I get some time I'll check it out more thoroughly. I've spent a lot of money and time over the years joining many of these kinds of sites and very few have ever produced results like just regular Google searches do. But again, things are changing. I am an open minded guy. So I'll look into it more. I probably jumped to conclusions a little. Sorry about that Chris.
                      Jim Lewis
                      Lewis Landscape Services - Oregon

                      www.lewislandscape.com - Landscape Design Portland Oregon

                      "kickin' grass and takin' names"

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                      • #41
                        Me and everybody Else

                        I checked out the site, and it's like the Yellow Pages, Yipple or Merchant Circle.. You are one of many listings.

                        Why not stand out? For a one time payment of $60 you could get www.Articlez.com to write 10 articles based on your keywords. Paste those into your Word Press blog and also submit to the directories/article sites that I list at Google Slam and you would rank as a STAND ALONE RETURN for those keywords.

                        Submit those posts to the RSS feeders and you own the serp (search engine return.)

                        And, if you do it the way I explain in the free report, there is no "monthly fee". Do it once.

                        That's whats nice about OWNING versus RENTING serps. Once you own it, if you want, you can sell it.

                        No different than terrestrial real estate. Owning beats renting every time.

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                        • #42
                          More confusion

                          Jim,
                          Thanks for your sincerity but I have to tell you that it is not my company. We are a publicly traded company. Our CEO, Bob McNaulty was the early business plan geniuses that came up with the Home Depot business plan. He started the Home Club and Shopping.com. He sold them both for about half a billion. So we are not just any company friend. I am am merely an independent sales brand builder. I simply thought that there were some folks on here that would see the value of our service. You will soon see in the very near future, your competitors on the top sponsored links listed on LocalAdLink..And I was NEVER giving anyone a free test of this. It cost money to advertise, to put these ads all over the internet and for our contextual reading software to aide in your search rankings, hell no this was never free. Would you mow someone's grass for free to show them you knew how to keep your mower in line and not scalp their yard...EXACTLY

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                          • #43
                            I don't have geo-targeting set on all my ads. But I don't like those kind of ads much anyway. So I give them such a small bid that I don't care so much if they occasionally appear outside the area I am targeting. I could spend the time to make every ad I have specifically geo-targeted, if I wanted. But the thing is sometimes my clients are away in California or have two homes or are just moving into our area. So most of my stuff is geared more toward specific key words more than it is geo targeted. And I pay so little for those little ads anyway, I don't really care.

                            My PPC main ads in Google and Yahoo, those I pay some serious dough for. The bid price on those is pretty high. But the bid price for these little text ads is ike 40 cents and they rarely get clicked on. I spend less than $20 a month on those. So I've never felt the need to really get them totally dialed in like I would like them. It's just additional advertising.

                            My main advertising is getting my site to the top of the Google organic listings. My fall-back is PPC advertising with Google and Yahoo. And then I have several other fall-backs to catch people too.
                            Organic is fine but slow and hard to maintain. Get results quick with LocalAdLink!

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