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  • #16
    I apologize if I came off mean and conceited ..... I hadn't had my morning cigarette yet! But yes when alls said and done..I agree with what you all are saying. As long as my guy does good work I'm content with it... One thing I will not tolerate is a worker who sags his pants past his ***...THAT is the worst.

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    • #17
      I apologize if I came off mean and conceited ..... I hadn't had my morning cigarette yet!
      LOL!


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      I believe it all comes down to respecting those around you. Smoking on a property is silly, because that is disrespectful to the homeowners. If they have windows open, they don't want to smell smoke.

      Smoking is a lifestyle choice, everyone has something unhealthy about them. A lot of the times people try to inform me of how bad smoking is, I can usually pick something about them that is just as bad that they refuse to change.

      Sure I may smoke, but some people are overweight and don't do anything about it either. Some people are just bad people in general. Smokers are just an easy target, and that's all!

      If someone washes their hands after using the washroom every time, stays in shape, doesn't smoke, doesn't beat their wife or children, goes to bed early to wake up early, then this person may seem better than the rest of us, but I'm pretty sure this person may be a serial killer. lol

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      The only thing I truly hate in this world, is those who hop on the bandwagon of things just to be apart of a bigger group of people who can't think for themselves.

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      • #18
        Well, it looks like I need to tell him to stop smoking while working. With all these post I just got to do it. If he quits he quits and I will move on and find someone else. Just upset with myself for not taking care of it from the get go.

        I know you guys are not telling me how to run my business but I do have to tell you that my gut feeling was that I never did like it. I just let it go because he makes me money. Ha, and I guess if he quits over something like this he does not want to work for me anyway.

        Thanks everyone.

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        • #19
          lunch break;

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          • #20
            I'm not a smoker, but used to be, and I think it does come off very unprofessional to smoke while at someones house. You have to keep in mind, you are on someone elses property, that deserves respect while you are there. If you're smoking on their property and they dispise smoking, as many people now do, you look unprofessional and in this day and age, smoking has become a dirty, nasty habit that more and more people speak out against. When certain towns and cities are putting a stop to smoking inside resturants and even bars now, you know it's being looked down upon a ton more than it used to be. I won't hire someone that smokes while on a property. You can wait to either get back in the truck or wait till you get to a lunch break. Just my two cents!!

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            • #21
              No smoking while working on YOUR properties......PERIOD...I am a heavy smoker and I wait until the job is complete...

              Make it a RULE..it is your company after all
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              • #22
                i dont allow smoking while working, but what is your customer smoked would that change your opion in smoking while working or talking with the customer

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                • #23
                  i dont allow smoking while working, but what is your customer smoked would that change your opion in smoking while working or talking with the customer

                  Not in my opinion it wouldn't. I don't mind a customer smoking in front as we talk but what would bother me is, if a neighbor saw us talking and me or my guys were smoking too, that might be a red flag to a not want me to mow there yard. Business is business! First impressions are a big deal to alot of people. Your always being watched, no matter if you think you are or not while out on a property. I know something like smoking isn't a big deal to some but, to others it can be a huge deal, you have to make sure you are always coming off as professional and I think smoking on someones property looks bad for business.

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                  • #24
                    Well if Santa can do it...

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                    • #25
                      I dip, I have one employee who smokes and I do not allow him to smoke at a job site. I also do not allow smoking in the truck as I do not want my truck to smell worse then it does after a long day of mowing anyway haha. on a serious note though When im dipping i can present my self as if im doing nothing out of the ordinary which helps, I still try not to chew while on a job site thouhg mostly cuz ill end up spitting on my self at some piont and thats nasty

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                      • #26
                        You always have to think about who is watching.

                        You have one customer that smokes, so it's ok to smoke around him/her. 3 neighbors see you smoking on that neighbors lot. That deters them from hiring you.
                        sure, you do a great job, sure every line is straight, sure ever edge is straight, sure everything looks like a MLB park...everything is always perfect............except, smoking............... "hey i have a customer that doesn't care if I smoke all day at his property. You just lost 1-3 customers that do not want that no matter how the end result is.

                        Some don't mind, some do....., but there are people that will not hire you if you smoke, no matter what type of work you do............but no one will NOT hire you because you do NOT smoke.

                        It may suck, it may not...but the bottom line is always this...........the customer is paying you money to perform a service they can do themselves or hire someone else to do. Why hurt your chances over a freakin stupid thing like a freakin cigarette?

                        The customer is not always right, but they are right if they don't want a smoker on their property. It is their property after all.

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                        • #27
                          You always have to think about who is watching.

                          You have one customer that smokes, so it's ok to smoke around him/her. 3 neighbors see you smoking on that neighbors lot. That deters them from hiring you.
                          sure, you do a great job, sure every line is straight, sure ever edge is straight, sure everything looks like a MLB park...everything is always perfect............except, smoking............... "hey i have a customer that doesn't care if I smoke all day at his property. You just lost 1-3 customers that do not want that no matter how the end result is.

                          Some don't mind, some do....., but there are people that will not hire you if you smoke, no matter what type of work you do............but no one will NOT hire you because you do NOT smoke.

                          It may suck, it may not...but the bottom line is always this...........the customer is paying you money to perform a service they can do themselves or hire someone else to do. Why hurt your chances over a freakin stupid thing like a freakin cigarette?

                          The customer is not always right, but they are right if they don't want a smoker on their property. It is their property after all.
                          Couldn't have said it better. My thoughts exactly!!!!

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                          • #28
                            i only smoke not drink

                            how about this i smoke menthol's love the smoke coming out of my mouth i smoke in my truck in the job where ever i feel like lighting up one. if a customer approach me which is very common i just say excuse me ligth off the cigarette and putted on my pocket, this dont bother me at all i understand personal relationship it part of my business, so back to this smoking subject i have had lets say 3 to 4 of my customer inviting inside there homes to get an appraisal they want to sit down and their comfort zone so to the customer want he wants i dont go to McDonald and let them serve me whatever they want i am detailed when it comes to me spending my money so i ask for what i want. i do what i want that please me with it. so they star talking about the job and light up a cigarette ask me if it was okey for them to smoke what should said its your house u can do what ever u want with it right they ask me if i smoke i said yes they offer me one i said no thanks i said i smoke menthol they said u can smoke if u want to sure, again customer service its my first priority, for me customers don't really care if u smoke or not they will probably care more on the way u are dress, i wear polo shirts (under armor) short's, boots or golf tennis shoes i dont have any type of piercing i had ear piercing but i took them off after i got my very first call for business never put them back. more than smoking i will say what affects you its ur personallythe way you talk i have customers that even buy pizzas for me and my crew every day serving us cafe and donuts in the morning before we star working, when i do 3 or more days landscape jobs there is no way i am going to stay whit out smoking for 3 days have that make me look bad not at all they have call me back and refer me to their friends all they care about quality. i HAVE SMOKE INSIDE CUSTOMERS HOUSES they have never ask me for a discount and yes i got the jobs and make good money. oh by the way this customers live in gated community's in houses of 350.000 to 500.000 not low life people. i should stop smoking its bad for my health .

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                            • #29
                              how about this i smoke menthol's love the smoke coming out of my mouth i smoke in my truck in the job where ever i feel like lighting up one. if a customer approach me which is very common i just say excuse me ligth off the cigarette and putted on my pocket, this dont bother me at all i understand personal relationship it part of my business, so back to this smoking subject i have had lets say 3 to 4 of my customer inviting inside there homes to get an appraisal they want to sit down and their comfort zone so to the customer want he wants i dont go to McDonald and let them serve me whatever they want i am detailed when it comes to me spending my money so i ask for what i want. i do what i want that please me with it. so they star talking about the job and light up a cigarette ask me if it was okey for them to smoke what should said its your house u can do what ever u want with it right they ask me if i smoke i said yes they offer me one i said no thanks i said i smoke menthol they said u can smoke if u want to sure, again customer service its my first priority, for me customers don't really care if u smoke or not they will probably care more on the way u are dress, i wear polo shirts (under armor) short's, boots or golf tennis shoes i dont have any type of piercing i had ear piercing but i took them off after i got my very first call for business never put them back. more than smoking i will say what affects you its ur personallythe way you talk i have customers that even buy pizzas for me and my crew every day serving us cafe and donuts in the morning before we star working, when i do 3 or more days landscape jobs there is no way i am going to stay whit out smoking for 3 days have that make me look bad not at all they have call me back and refer me to their friends all they care about quality. i HAVE SMOKE INSIDE CUSTOMERS HOUSES they have never ask me for a discount and yes i got the jobs and make good money. oh by the way this customers live in gated community's in houses of 350.000 to 500.000 not low life people. i should stop smoking its bad for my health .
                              Ok, once I finally got the jist of what your saying in this post (not easy to do by the way) I understood what your saying (kind of). In my book, you never smoke on or around a customer or their property. If you need a smoke go to the truck and have one. Smoking is something people are tolerating less and less these days. I don't have a problem with anyone smoking, that's your choice. I used to smoke and did so for over ten years. But the majority of people nowadays don't want to smell it. I know one of my customers, that if she saw me smoking on her property I'd get fired on the spot. Thats how I landed her in the first place. Her old lawn care service guy smoked while he mowed her yard and it pissed her off, so she hired me. You have to use common sense when it comes to others property. If they dont mind smoking, fine smoke, but you need to know that before you just do it "where ever i feel like lighting up one".

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                              • #30
                                Ok, once I finally got the jist of what your saying in this post (not easy to do by the way) I understood what your saying (kind of). In my book, you never smoke on or around a customer or their property. If you need a smoke go to the truck and have one. Smoking is something people are tolerating less and less these days. I don't have a problem with anyone smoking, that's your choice. I used to smoke and did so for over ten years. But the majority of people nowadays don't want to smell it. I know one of my customers, that if she saw me smoking on her property I'd get fired on the spot. Thats how I landed her in the first place. Her old lawn care service guy smoked while he mowed her yard and it pissed her off, so she hired me. You have to use common sense when it comes to others property. If they dont mind smoking, fine smoke, but you need to know that before you just do it "where ever i feel like lighting up one".
                                sure i get the point and im sorry for my tarzan English thanks for talking ur time, but dont u think there is more important thinks than this smoking think like the way u dress or talk with ur crew or act in their homes in my case most of my customers they even tell me that if i need their restrooms all i need to do is ask or open the door i never done this, thats too far bothering for me. but i believe that its trust from their part and their please whit our work. i will not let use my restrooms to any body that i dont know i have even being invite it to their special occasions Christmas, thanks giving etc. and yes i smoke in their properties and they know i do i truly believe they care more about the quality than if u smoke or not but ill change my contracts and put in a section if they will want to make their home a non smoking area while we service their lawn or landscape their house for customers like your its a free country after all brother.

                                some like some of our crew members are smoker so please let us know if u will be obsessed if we smoke in your property and like to little boxes one for yes and one for no so this smoking issue its solve .

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