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    Why the heck are none of you charging for the full season of winter, and instead charging per outing?

    Is it because snow isn't something that occurs often in your area?


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    Why the heck are none of you charging for the full season of winter, and instead charging per outing? ...
    The market doesn't bear such a concept around here. You can contract with a local HOA for a full season but those are all locked down by the current contract holders. I haven't made a single dollar from snow removal this season but that's not really a big deal.
    Boughter's Lawn Care Services Mowing and Fertilizing in New Castle, PA

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    • #3
      The market doesn't bear such a concept around here. You can contract with a local HOA for a full season but those are all locked down by the current contract holders. I haven't made a single dollar from snow removal this season but that's not really a big deal.
      That's terrible!

      It's been such a stupid winter, hopefully over time winter will be a thing of the past and it'll be summer for the rest of our lives... lol

      I'm young, but I'm getting too old for this white sh^t.

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      • #4
        I think after this year it will be hard to get real money for whole season snow removal around here and last year you would have been killed doing work for free (it was snowing everyother day)

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        • #5
          That's terrible! ...
          Nah, it's alright. It did snow more than 1" one time but it was 3 days after I had my hernia surgery. I was not about to tear my belly open for a few dollars. A few weeks later I got the itch and walked my snow blower over the " of snow that showed up. The snow blower wouldn't even throw such a small amount.

          $0. I'm eagerly awaiting the spring.
          Boughter's Lawn Care Services Mowing and Fertilizing in New Castle, PA

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          • #6
            I'm only an hour or so south of Mark and I've only been out on two days this winter. 4 or 5 driveways - that's it.


            People would be chasing me with torches and pitchforks demanding a refund if I had charged them a flat rate for snow removal.


            "Just come over if we have more than 3 or 4 inches" is what most people say.

            Where I'm located, snow is hit or miss - sometimes we get enough to shovel, sometimes we get hit with a foot or more at a time, and sometimes we don't get much at all.

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            • #7
              I usually try to have a 50-50 mix of per push and anal customers .About 13 years ago ,we had virtually no snow one winter ,100% of the anal residential customers booked the next year on a per push basis ,and we got hit with a lot of small snowfalls so they actually ended up paying more .Anyways ,when you do a small shopping mall lot for $340,000.00 per year ,and it only snows once or twice ,theres awesome cash to be made .If you under estimate the number of snowfalls on the same property,you could be standing on the corner of the street in your sunday best ,with a tin cup in hand .

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              • #8
                Anal customers?
                Boughter's Lawn Care Services Mowing and Fertilizing in New Castle, PA

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                • #9
                  Anal customers?

                  I have a few of those.

                  I leave their lawns looking FABULOUS.




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                  • #10
                    My jobs are some of my lawn customers
                    I'm not out to make a killing just to give me some spending cash.
                    They are just seniors so they like the pay as you go basis.

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                    • #11
                      Why the heck are none of you charging for the full season of winter, and instead charging per outing?
                      Scott,

                      Being that you are north of a lot of members on here, do you find that your market differs from theirs where it's more common to charge for a full season vs per outing?

                      Is one way better than the other up there when it comes to profiting over the winter months?
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                      • #12
                        Scott,

                        Being that you are north of a lot of members on here, do you find that your market differs from theirs where it's more common to charge for a full season vs per outing?

                        Is one way better than the other up there when it comes to profiting over the winter months?

                        It's actually very interesting.

                        From what I'm noticing, companies in my area are more about obtaining a lot of clients and offering standard prices for full season work. I suppose the strength of these companies and myself rely on massive clientele.

                        Others in the world seem to charge a different price per individual client. In theory I can understand why this may make sense, but the problem is not being able guarantee stable income.

                        Sure even those who charge for the complete season might get screwed over if it snows a lot. In my opinion, it's better to take a chance with losing the money you make, then to never make money at all when it comes to snow removal.

                        Also, some companies (rare) often charge more if the amount of snowfall per season increases. These companies often put the amount of snow expected in their contracts, and if it snows more then they had anticipated, they can send another invoice.

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                        I'd like to continue this discussion, maybe see what all of you think?

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                        • #13
                          my area is too unpredictable, last year we had 56 inches of snow and this year we had 4 inches.

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                          • #14
                            It really would depend on the location.
                            If you're in an area where snow is a given, then it's not going to be difficult to charge a flat rate, as both you and the client KNOW that snow is inevitable.


                            If someone walked up to my door and offered to keep my walk and driveway clear all winter for just $200, I'd slam the door in his face.
                            I'm not paying for services not performed and there's no way to know what snowfall amounts we will actually get.

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                            • #15
                              ... If someone walked up to my door and offered to keep my walk and driveway clear all winter for just $200, I'd slam the door in his face. ...
                              Same here. It feels like gambling to me.
                              Boughter's Lawn Care Services Mowing and Fertilizing in New Castle, PA

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