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  • #16
    Now I realise that this is somewhat shi**y, but when I see lawn care company for sale, I advertise inthe local newspaper "JOE BLOW lawn care is up for sale, so it looks like his customrs may need a new servicer. If you call me in the next two weeks at xxx-xxxx I will give you better service, and your first cut is free" . I have pick up a few customers, gotten a few phone calls about how this guy scammed customrs, friends, etc. Why should I pay you for your customers list, your old crappy equipment, etc when I can get your customers, and use my new equipment for just the price an advertisement. Makes no sense to me.
    interesting marketing strategy. What kind of success have you had with this? Do you think some of the calls are just interested in the free cut and are not associated with the other landscaper?

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    • #17
      And how would you be able to confirm those that called were using this other lawn service?
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      • #18
        Lawn Ventures Inc Texas Argyle

        Looks like he's gearing up another company to sell to someone.
        These are the lawn businesses he claims to own.
        Lawn Ventures Inc (is the newest one)
        Lone Star Lawn and Landscaping
        OC Lawn Care
        Operation Cut Lawn and Tree Services

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        • #19
          Now I realise that this is somewhat shi**y, but when I see lawn care company for sale, I advertise inthe local newspaper "JOE BLOW lawn care is up for sale, so it looks like his customrs may need a new servicer. If you call me in the next two weeks at xxx-xxxx I will give you better service, and your first cut is free" . I have pick up a few customers, gotten a few phone calls about how this guy scammed customrs, friends, etc. Why should I pay you for your customers list, your old crappy equipment, etc when I can get your customers, and use my new equipment for just the price an advertisement. Makes no sense to me.

          somewhere, somehow i could see that being a issue for you.
          that would have to fall into a slander type of category and even though every business can say they are better or bigger then the next guy i do not believe you can actually list anothers name like that unless it were in regards to a poll like " 9 out of 10 women prefer sweet and fresh over masengil ".

          the guy could have a good legitimate business for sale that he busted his tail for and is selling due to injury, age or even just greener pastures.
          if it were a good business he would be entitled to compensation by selling it and in the right scenario the purchaser could be far better off and further along then if he started from scratch.

          and even when " you get the custmers on your own " it is never free, as well as takes a lot longer and requires a much longer stretch of financial cash flow problems when the work is slow and minimal.

          i don't believe in much hokus pokus crap but i do believe " what goes around, comes around " in everything you do in life and when the wheel comes full turn i just can't envision anything good waiting for me when i got there if i were to do a pitch scam like that.

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          • #20
            if it were a good business he would be entitled to compensation by selling it and in the right scenario the purchaser could be far better off and further along then if he started from scratch.
            If you were looking to buy a lawn care business from an online craigslist ad, what steps do you feel would be necessary to make sure you were getting what was being advertised and it was a good deal for you?
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            • #21
              If you were looking to buy a lawn care business from an online craigslist ad, what steps do you feel would be necessary to make sure you were getting what was being advertised and it was a good deal for you?
              i don't even know if i would consider doing a deal like that on CL but, who knows.
              you definitly need to look at all cash reciepts over the last few years and if they don't have them, see ya.
              bank records are a must.
              speaking to the customers and how long they have used the services is big.
              are the customers under contract or is it word of mouth?

              lawyers need to be involved and not one for all, seperate attorneys.
              the terms requested are usually outrageous, guys think that they are gonna get someone to just hand over a large sum of cash just like that.

              i know guys that bought businesses and it worked out for them but you have to do your research and you can not take anyones word that what they are selling you is the golden egg. and if you don't take the time and trouble and investigate you will be screwed because no one else is gonna do it for you. providing it is a established business there is always a paper trail as well as the customers and how long they been a customer to help determine if it is worth buying.
              most that i spoke to about it over the years have said it takes a long time to find the right business for sale and 99 out of 100 are garbage.

              under the right circumstances it can be a big quick boost for a business, but it is like finding a needle in a hay stack and if all you are gonna do is buy some slackers business you might as well just put the money into advertiseing and build it up the old fashioned way.

              finally, with craigslist if has been up there for any amount of time or constantly gets re-listed it is probably beat.
              nothing good slips through the cracks there it always gets snatched up and disappears as fast as it came.

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              • #22
                most that i spoke to about it over the years have said it takes a long time to find the right business for sale and 99 out of 100 are garbage.
                I think this is a very interesting point. I would venture to guess that any business worth buying is not going to be posted on craigslist. But if by chance one is, do you think there are any good reasons a business owner looking to sell, is going to have to explain why they want out?

                It seems like selling a lawn care business on craigslist can be too easy an escape route for a business owner who finds themselves in debt with no way out but to sell a poorly run business that helped to put them in debt.
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                • #23
                  Scam Fraud

                  The newest company name that this guy is using is Lawn Ventures LLC. Don't buy a business from him it's a scam.



                  fraud

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                  • #24
                    The newest company name that this guy is using is Lawn Ventures LLC. Don't buy a business from him it's a scam.



                    fraud
                    I am just curious do any of you guy's happen to have a email address or anything of that sort on this scammer? I think it's pretty sad people like him scams hard working people trying to better themselves out of their money and i myself well maybe if his internet or computer didn't work then he couldn't advertise so much So any info or a link to his ads please send my way or post on this thread thank you.

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                    • #25
                      forget buying a business off CL. If there really is someone selling, then there customers for the taking

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                      • #26
                        we have had 2 very good experiences buying businesses of CL. We purchased a large snow removal company before the snow season that did mostly commercial properties with around 25 residentials and we only lost 3 residential customers and actually got all of the commercial companies into multi year contracts and all but 2 residentials in a contract for next year. It came with alot of equipment in excellent condition and the owner was very upfront about everything and we had all the equipment checked, all of the financials looked over by our lawyer and accountant and we met with all the clients before any money was exchanged. We also purchased a lawn/property preservation business last week and have had the same luck so far with multi year contracts entered and so on. I have seen many horrible ones on CL and it helps if you have an established name and reputation when purchasing a business to help the transition. I agree if the ad keeps getting reposted or if it has been there for along time its best to not waste your time. I have seen several ads listing the business name that is being sold as well as a general area where it is located, but I think advertising to take the customers from the business for sale is just bad business and what goes around comes around.

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                        • #27
                          Status Update

                          Well it looks like Kevin Capps has slowed down his lawn business scam to move on to easier prey.
                          http://www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/...y-capps-492483

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