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  • #16
    Sorry, I posted a 5% markup and meant to post 25%. My fingers are dyslexic tonight.
    Kendrick
    Cedar Lawn Care Services, LLC
    Kirksville, MO

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    • #17
      I used to work for a pest control company and we really hated to see people put mulch against a house foundation. It draws ants and especially termites like you wouldn't believe.
      When you worked for the pest company, would you tell the customer the mulch should be removed? Or did you spray it or how did you deal with that?

      I guess they get comfortable in the mulch area and then they start to explore and climb up into the house?

      When you are working in lawn care, do you point this out to your customers if you see it and suggest they have you remove it? I bet most people don't realize this.
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      • #18
        I have a question .Since you have the empty lot beside you,why not get a large load of mulch dropped there ,then bag it yourself [or use your rubermaid cans ] to deliver it to the site .This way,you will get the mulch cheaper,and have some left to use on the next job .Also,you have to get some mark-up on any supplies you use ,rule of thumb is in the 40-50% range .For a great customer,you can show a discount on your supplies [say 25 % OFF] ,this will give your customer a reason to think your really taking care of them .while your still making a 25% mark-up .

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        • #19
          When you worked for the pest company, would you tell the customer the mulch should be removed? Or did you spray it or how did you deal with that?

          I guess they get comfortable in the mulch area and then they start to explore and climb up into the house?

          When you are working in lawn care, do you point this out to your customers if you see it and suggest they have you remove it? I bet most people don't realize this.
          Yes we would always recommend that the customer remove the mulch near the foundation. We would always recommend rubber mulch or river rock instead.

          Bugs, especially ants and termites love the moist, warm mulch and it provides termites with a food source. I recommend rock because it holds a high enough temperature that insects can't hardly survive. Your chance of an infestation are much less with rock or rubber mulch. That and rubber mulch lasts for up to 5 years before the color fades. Now all you need to do is buy some mulch dye and re-apply every couple years. This saves you time and the customer money. I know I'd rather show up and dye it then re-apply it! Hey...that kinda rhymes...maybe I need to sell that to the manufactures!

          Yes, I always point this out to my customers now that I do lawn care. I think it's a good way to take care of your customers when you are protecting their property. Termite jobs are horribly expensive, and the way I see it, I don't want to be responsible for them getting it. Another bad idea is getting the "free" mulch from the city brush sites. This is so BAD BAD! If you think about it, you are just spreading terrible things. Community mulch can harbor a number of tree diseases, termites, insecticides, unwanted herbicides, and even wood mites. Here in northern Missouri we're having a breakout of pine tree mites that are wreaking havoc on all our pines and spruces. They will totally wipe a tree out in a couple years time. Just some food for thought.
          Kendrick
          Cedar Lawn Care Services, LLC
          Kirksville, MO

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          • #20
            Another bad idea is getting the "free" mulch from the city brush sites. This is so BAD BAD!
            I never thought about that! Ultimately how does it compare with other sources of mulch? What would other places do to treat the mulch to minimize problems?
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            • #21
              Ultimately how does it compare with other sources of mulch?
              Actually the stuff the city provides here is very long, course and full of small debris...not very pretty to look at. I used it on one of my first mulch jobs last year at a church. It was ok, however it wasn't very close to the road where people could get a good look at it either. I would never recommend it for a residential job though.

              What would other places do to treat the mulch to minimize problems?
              That's a good question Steve. I would be interested in knowing that so I could use it when I recommend certain brands of mulch. I could let the customer know which is better to suit their specific needs by the amount of what type and how much chemical they use in the mix.
              Kendrick
              Cedar Lawn Care Services, LLC
              Kirksville, MO

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              • #22
                Can you tow a trialer with your suv?
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                • #23
                  I would be interested in knowing that so I could use it when I recommend certain brands of mulch. I could let the customer know which is better to suit their specific needs by the amount of what type and how much chemical they use in the mix.
                  The next time you buy some mulch, if you are at a garden store, maybe they will know.
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                  • #24
                    okay so i got this lady..tiny yard..i almost didnt put a bid on it but im glad i did..this yard is TINY and im just getting started..so when i say i put a 12$ bid on it..no one freak out..anyways
                    shes got mulch around the deck and the garage
                    about 90 sq feet of mulch
                    she wants me to take it out and put new mulch in
                    i told her thats no problem i just gotta find out material costs and id get back to her the next time i service her lawn.

                    i saw an add today
                    theres natural mulch 4/9$ for 2 cu feet (12 sq ft at 2" thick)
                    and colored mulch 2/5$ for 2 cu feet (yadayada)
                    then also shredded cedar bark 2.69 for ""
                    and cedar chips 2.96 """""""

                    regretfully i forgot to ask if she wanted the fabric or edging.

                    so edging costs 6.86 for 20 ft. i need 100
                    and fabric comes in 3' by 150' for 7.86

                    so here is the deal:


                    Fabric (optional) 100 ft. = 10.00
                    Edging (optional) 100 ft. = 40.00
                    22 Bags of Mulch = 70.00
                    ____________________________
                    $130.00 for Materials
                    +40.00 for labor
                    ________________________________________
                    160$ Total


                    is my labor too low? should i charge more?
                    its me and my partner doing the job
                    ill be buying mulch in bags to save her money..
                    buying it from a lot costs more since its not a lot
                    any advice?
                    It is much cheaper to buy mulch in bulk without the bags. Use a trailer and a tarp to transport it to the jobsite. Take into consideration the time to do that. Use wheelbarrows to spread it. The bulk of your cost will be to remove the old mulch and dispose of it. I usually talk the customer into leaving the old mulch there as it decomposes over time. Cut the edges straight about 3-4 inches deep so you won't have overflow by using a spade shovel, its the square ended one. I am guessing you are looking at a 5 to 6 hour job if you need to remove the old mulch add another 2 hours to the total to dispose of it some where. Remember you are charging for you and your worker.
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                    • #25
                      Well your best bet first of all is to buy it by the yard. Might cost you $25-50(plus say $25 for gas) for the mulch tops, especially if there is a lot of shrubbery. Depends on depth. I would charge her for about 3 hrs labor with edging and fabric. Digging the mulch out will be the biggest task. Plus where will you dump it and how much will it cost if anything. The distance to your truck or trailer pays a great role in the time bid. Can you roll right next to it with the truck of is it 150ft from the (a wheel barrow at a time) LOL.

                      I get up to $125 for the first yard installed. Just weed eating though no fabric and edging. If your already there to cut the grass you can cut the price down some of course. Most guys I know charge anywhere from 65-100 a yard depending on the size of the job. (mulch included) Just to install mulch. Sounds more like 150-175 plus any dump fees- Depending on your area and how close you can pull the truck to the job.

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                      • #26
                        Yes we would always recommend that the customer remove the mulch near the foundation. We would always recommend rubber mulch or river rock instead.

                        Bugs, especially ants and termites love the moist, warm mulch and it provides termites with a food source. I recommend rock because it holds a high enough temperature that insects can't hardly survive. Your chance of an infestation are much less with rock or rubber mulch. That and rubber mulch lasts for up to 5 years before the color fades. Now all you need to do is buy some mulch dye and re-apply every couple years. This saves you time and the customer money. I know I'd rather show up and dye it then re-apply it! Hey...that kinda rhymes...maybe I need to sell that to the manufactures!

                        Yes, I always point this out to my customers now that I do lawn care. I think it's a good way to take care of your customers when you are protecting their property. Termite jobs are horribly expensive, and the way I see it, I don't want to be responsible for them getting it. Another bad idea is getting the "free" mulch from the city brush sites. This is so BAD BAD! If you think about it, you are just spreading terrible things. Community mulch can harbor a number of tree diseases, termites, insecticides, unwanted herbicides, and even wood mites. Here in northern Missouri we're having a breakout of pine tree mites that are wreaking havoc on all our pines and spruces. They will totally wipe a tree out in a couple years time. Just some food for thought.


                        What about pine straw in the flower bed or does is have the same affect as the mulch.

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                        • #27
                          That is a good question. Does anyone else want to jump in here? I would think pine straw would have the potential for still attracting insects.
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