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  • #16
    What do you mean going up curbs?

    My mower doesn't move to much on my trailer, but my push mower does, so I think i'll do the board method for that and hopefully it stays put.
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    • #17
      What do you mean going up curbs?
      I have two of those tractors, one is the older model, and the new one is like yours. The new one has 'bigger' tires, but they also have no grip for climbing which is very upsetting for me.

      For example, if you need to get onto a lawn from the street, normally you would press the tires against the curb, slowly, and expect the wheels to crawl on top the the curb, while the rear tires force their way up later on.

      This tractor has a very tough time doing that, and you might lose control if the tractor decides to slide.

      If you can avoid curbs, then this machine is still worth all the money in the world. Good job!

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      • #18
        Thats good to hear! I don't think I will have to many jobs, if any that will involve curbs, and if there is, i'll find another way up.

        I was looking at a john deere zero turn, but the toro had much better reviews and was cheaper, so it was a no brainer, its good to hear that its a good mower from someone else too!
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        • #19
          I must be doing something wrong. Maybe you guys can help me see the light.

          I have 3 trucks 2 F-550 4x4 dump trucks with 7.3 turbo. and my small plow truck that really does everything. That's an F-250 4x4 with a dump insert.

          I have these trucks because I can't seem to find customers that are ok with not bagging. In the spring it seems that I have to bag every one of them untill we get a drought. Some have dump spots but most don't. In may if I didn't bag the lawn would look like crap or I would have to go over it two or three times'. huge waste of time. In the fall I can fill my dump truck beds with leaves every day and I put very high sids on them.

          What about mulch jobs ? I do about one to two hundred yards a season.

          If I could figure out how to make money with out having to bag grass and leaves I would love it. Around here if I only took on customers that were cool with not bagging my drive time would be about half my day. Please tell me the secret.

          Cheese is that little Toro what you use to mow with ? I'm at a compleat loss. In April I bought a new Toro for $ 12,000 bucks. Because I can't see how you could do what we do with anything less, but I guess I was wrong. Help me !

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          • #20
            ^^^

            Simple. Not everyone lives in the same place, uses the same equipment, or cuts the same types of lawns.

            If I had to bag every lawn, I'd find something else to do because as a solo operator, it would take so much extra time it wouldn't be worthwhile.
            Between stopping every two passes to empty a bag and dragging all of it to the truck, then driving it to the dump every other day, I just can't see how to make a profit considering people complain about prices the way they are now.

            I bag in early spring on the lawns that truly need it, but for the most part, I mulch.

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            • #21
              ^^^

              Simple. Not everyone lives in the same place, uses the same equipment, or cuts the same types of lawns.

              If I had to bag every lawn, I'd find something else to do because as a solo operator, it would take so much extra time it wouldn't be worthwhile.
              Between stopping every two passes to empty a bag and dragging all of it to the truck, then driving it to the dump every other day, I just can't see how to make a profit considering people complain about prices the way they are now.

              I bag in early spring on the lawns that truly need it, but for the most part, I mulch.
              I guess you're right. Just can't get around it here, and the last time I was in PA the lawns looked the same as the ones in Troy NY.

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              • #22
                hey godslapper In April I bought a new Toro for $ 12,000 bucks. Because I can't see how you could do what we do with anything less, but I guess I was wrong.

                thats a nice lawn mower can u shoot some pics of it, is it a grounds keeping mower or just a regular one, what kind of property's u take care off
                Last edited by Grass Doctor; 07-15-2012, 11:59 PM.

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                • #23
                  I guess you're right. Just can't get around it here, and the last time I was in PA the lawns looked the same as the ones in Troy NY.
                  I had a friend that bought a cub cadet residential mower. The first season he loved it and bragged. With the money he saved he bought another. The first mower didnt last 3 years and the second almost made it 4. He replaced 2 hydro pumps, a deck that bent, the handles broke, and a mess of other problems. He ended up buying a walker stander.

                  I bought a used Zmaster for $5200 and in the same amount time only replaced tires. Then I wanted another ZTR. I seen a bunch of the residential mowers for like $1000 so I tried a residential Ariens, Timecutter, and Husquarvana but they were all the same. I ended up buying a Great Dane and so far have had no problems.

                  Pretty much in the long run I spent way less then he did and never had a mower go down. There not that bad for small yards but when you start dealing with multiple acres they just dont cut it and they go about half the speed as a commercial mower. Anyone that ever used both should be able to tell its just a lawn tractor in a zero turn body. Its even made with the same parts.

                  As far as bagging I have people who wont pay extra for it until it starts to accumulate. Then they complain and I say well its this much more. What I do in early spring is bag one week and then mulch the next. This seems to keep it under control till late may when I dont need to bag at all.

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                  • #24
                    nice set up men,i have the same Honda, beautiful mowers and just buy a toro 42in mower around 25 days, it has improve my time 50% in big lawns (1/2 to 2 acre customers), i wish i could afford a trailer like that at this time, but for now i have to load the mower in to the back of my truck scary the other day my bro almost fell from the ramps. we have our acct together though. i thigh up a strap to the front (the light part of the mower i drove up and he hold it down while stay at top (tail gate) i can really see my self with a set up like yours.

                    thanks for the pics.

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                    • #25
                      hey godslapper In April I bought a new Toro for $ 12,000 bucks. Because I can't see how you could do what we do with anything less, but I guess I was wrong.

                      thats a nice lawn mower can u shoot some pics of it, is it a grounds keeping mower or just a regular one, what kind of property's u take care off
                      A 60 inch Z with bagger system was 10,500 at the dealer. I am paying almost 400 a month for it. It has a 3 year bumper to bumper. I mow with it for three years and sell it in the fourth year. If it cost 10 grand I really try to get at least 7 grand for it but will go down to 6 grand. That's about a grand or so per season and it's always in good shape.

                      My first Toro Z was a 52 inch with a bagger system. I drove the wheels off that thing. It was my main work horse for the first 5 years. After the 7th or 8th year I was putting 2 to 4 grand a year into it just to keep it running ok. I still have it but now it just mows the lawn at my house. Once in a while if we get behind I'll put it in the trailer. It has about 9,000 hours on it and still runs strong.

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                      • #26
                        nice set up men,i have the same Honda, beautiful mowers and just buy a toro 42in mower around 25 days, it has improve my time 50% in big lawns (1/2 to 2 acre customers), i wish i could afford a trailer like that at this time, but for now i have to load the mower in to the back of my truck scary the other day my bro almost fell from the ramps. we have our acct together though. i thigh up a strap to the front (the light part of the mower i drove up and he hold it down while stay at top (tail gate) i can really see my self with a set up like yours.

                        thanks for the pics.
                        Thanks, I needed a trailer, my truck isn't big enough to put a mower in my bed.

                        I got a great deal on the trailer though, so I was pretty lucky with that, and the push mower my mom gave to me because she never uses it.
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                        • #27
                          I guess you're right. Just can't get around it here, and the last time I was in PA the lawns looked the same as the ones in Troy NY.
                          I live in PA and I have never once bagged any grass I have mowed, and it always looks good. The only problem I have had is if its a little damp and gets clumpy sometimes.
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                          • #28
                            Most of the time when I'm trying to sell a job face to face the customer will ask if we bag it. I say only when we need to.

                            A few of my customers that are on the high end side. The ones that water every day and have True Green fert all the time and have the garden people and the pool people. You know the type. Just the thought of blowing grass clippings into their mulch is enough to give them a heart attack. lol.

                            In the spring I think you can save a lot of time if you just bag it. In the fall it's a great way to do fall clean ups. I don't even have a rake on my trucks.

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                            • #29
                              I am going to need to buy a bagger for fall, all I have is a sweeper, I don't really want to spend 500 bucks on one, but I guess I have to.
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                              • #30
                                I need to find a picture of my truck and trailer the second year i was in business. i had a 2 door blazer 4.3 v6 engine towing a 6.5 by 12 trailer with a john Deere ztr and a 48 inch bobcat.
                                my suspension and rear tires took a real beating.
                                i still have the blazer as a spare vehicle, with a new in house paint job.

                                i do not bag the grass but i do blow it off the grass. we use mulching blades and then ground blowers. it reduces the amount of grass pick up by about 80-90 percent.
                                Krzysztof
                                Zawadzki Landscaping
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