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  • #16
    Did you read?

    I mentioned it after it was brought up about what's harmful and bad for the environment.

    And I was simply making a point that just because some group of people say this or that is bad, doesn't mean it is.

    People wanna take guns away, but 100x more people are killed by malpractice than killed by guns last year.... so if guns killing 8,XXX people is solo bad to get rid of them, then why not get rid of the doctors that killed 90,XXX people?

    Sometimes in life you just gotta read through the bull crap and figure it out.
    Oh ok, I see now. Unfortunately that's the kind of world we live in, the rich get richer while the poor get poorer and the poor foots the bills for the rich, and the Government caters to the rich.

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    • #17
      All it is going to take is for one green wenie to call the envoro police or you could be working next door to someone working for the EPA and you can be in some big trouble.

      It has nothing to do with being rich or getting richer.

      My whole point was to prevent someone from getting into trouble with bad advice. You can take it or not, makes no difference to me.

      I am just glad that you are not in my area. We have enough polution to just be using chemicals indescriminately.

      Your little bit may not hurt but everyone doing the same thing will. Just like the littering example. If nobody did it there would be no problem.

      As for your reports, have you stopped to thing that those reports are produced by the same people that make the product?

      You know why r12 and r22 are no longer made? The patent for Dupont was running out so they had to come up with the ozone hole theory.
      Pat

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      • #18
        I know paint thinner works fine for removing oil stains

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        • #19
          All it is going to take is for one green wenie to call the envoro police or you could be working next door to someone working for the EPA and you can be in some big trouble.

          It has nothing to do with being rich or getting richer.

          My whole point was to prevent someone from getting into trouble with bad advice. You can take it or not, makes no difference to me.

          I am just glad that you are not in my area. We have enough polution to just be using chemicals indescriminately.

          Your little bit may not hurt but everyone doing the same thing will. Just like the littering example. If nobody did it there would be no problem.

          As for your reports, have you stopped to thing that those reports are produced by the same people that make the product?

          You know why r12 and r22 are no longer made? The patent for Dupont was running out so they had to come up with the ozone hole theory.
          I see your point. You all have helped me with alot and I don't want to jeopardize anything by saying anything that could alter that.

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          • #20
            I see your point. You all have helped me with alot and I don't want to jeopardize anything by saying anything that could alter that.
            Nothing is going to alter that. I used to pressure wash and I hate it when people try random stuff without any knowledge of the chemical itself.
            Pat

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            • #21
              I understand your point and I'm not saying you are wrong.

              And I don't just go around pouring it on every stain I see. I try other means to get it off first. That's a last resort. I was just saying that it works. Its for.... stubborn stains not every stain

              On a good note. I believe I got my website issue fixed, with the speed. But I do know when you type in lawn care xxxxxx Tx (xxxxx is my town) im the first Google place that pops up. My website isn't at the top yet, but its been there one day and created two potential leads. All in a days work

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              • #22
                Also RoundUp is less harmful than a cup of coffee if ingested, no bull.
                Great. Let me see a youtube video of you drinking a cup of DDT.

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                • #23
                  Oh ok, I see now. Unfortunately that's the kind of world we live in, the rich get richer while the poor get poorer and the poor foots the bills for the rich, and the Government caters to the rich.
                  Actually that's not true. There are more new rich people than ever before in history. Forbes top 100 rich people have become rich in recent years.

                  The old stereotype that rich people are born rich no longer exists. Don't get me wrong, family money does exist, but the stereotype that the only rich people are those that come from families that have been rich for centuries is bullcrap.

                  Even Steve Jobs ( who is now dead ) and Bill Gates have only become rich over the past couple decades. Zuckerberg ( Facebook ) over a few years. Oprah, a couple decades.

                  Rich getting richer and poor getting poorer is a false analogy based on a zero sum game. The economy is not zero sum.

                  It's not about money, it's about drive. The poor will get poorer if they choose not to work hard to achieve goals. The rich will get richer, because of the practices they keep doing that got them rich in the first place.

                  It's a game of numbers. I have the drive to get rich. I'm one person. For every one person like me that will work their a** off to make something there are 20 people that choose to do nothing. In that case your argument is valid. But that isn't because I'm ripping people off, taking more money. It's because I choose to work harder than the other 20 people that choose to do less.

                  There is not a finite number of dollar bills in the economy where i take 100 dollars another person has 100 less dollars.

                  The rich may get richer, but it's not because they are taking money out of the poor's wallets. It's because the poor don't have the drive to make money.

                  It's like a runner. The runner wants to break a 5 minute mile, he works harder to do so. He's not making someone else slower with his hard work to make himself faster. The slower runner, and the people that don't run just don't feel like making themselves faster.

                  Basically the richer my customer's get, the richer I get as long as I want to work hard to get the money my customer's get for working harder.

                  Poor people don't hire me. Rich people and people with disposable income do.

                  The rich get richer and the poor get poorer is a bullcrap saying to get people to find comfort in their poorness by hating the people that work harder than they do.

                  And taxing the rich more is just an excuse to make people that choose not to bust their a** feel better that the government is doing something to protect them from the so called evil rich.

                  I'd rather the government protect rich people. Gives me that extra drive to become rich and "protected" other than being a someone that doesn't do a damn thing and gets a handout from a government that punishes the rich for no other reason than they have more than I do.
                  Last edited by JeffK26; 04-06-2013, 09:59 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Actually that's not true. There are more new rich people than ever before in history. Forbes top 100 rich people have become rich in recent years.

                    The old stereotype that rich people are born rich no longer exists. Don't get me wrong, family money does exist, but the stereotype that the only rich people are those that come from families that have been rich for centuries is bullcrap.

                    Even Steve Jobs ( who is now dead ) and Bill Gates have only become rich over the past couple decades. Zuckerberg ( Facebook ) over a few years. Oprah, a couple decades.

                    Rich getting richer and poor getting poorer is a false analogy based on a zero sum game. The economy is not zero sum.

                    It's not about money, it's about drive. The poor will get poorer if they choose not to work hard to achieve goals. The rich will get richer, because of the practices they keep doing that got them rich in the first place.

                    It's a game of numbers. I have the drive to get rich. I'm one person. For every one person like me that will work their a** off to make something there are 20 people that choose to do nothing. In that case your argument is valid. But that isn't because I'm ripping people off, taking more money. It's because I choose to work harder than the other 20 people that choose to do less.

                    There is not a finite number of dollar bills in the economy where i take 100 dollars another person has 100 less dollars.

                    The rich may get richer, but it's not because they are taking money out of the poor's wallets. It's because the poor don't have the drive to make money.

                    It's like a runner. The runner wants to break a 5 minute mile, he works harder to do so. He's not making someone else slower with his hard work to make himself faster. The slower runner, and the people that don't run just don't feel like making themselves faster.

                    Basically the richer my customer's get, the richer I get as long as I want to work hard to get the money my customer's get for working harder.

                    Poor people don't hire me. Rich people and people with disposable income do.

                    The rich get richer and the poor get poorer is a bullcrap saying to get people to find comfort in their poorness by hating the people that work harder than they do.

                    And taxing the rich more is just an excuse to make people that choose not to bust their a** feel better that the government is doing something to protect them from the so called evil rich.

                    I'd rather the government protect rich people. Gives me that extra drive to become rich and "protected" other than being a someone that doesn't do a damn thing and gets a handout from a government that punishes the rich for no other reason than they have more than I do.
                    I was actually talking about the rich not paying as much taxes as the poor and 2nd class citizens and how the Government caters to this, now recently Obama has taxed people making a certain amount per year. The Government caters to the rich because the rich technically run the country, its all about who has the almighty dollar to push a vote. Congress gripes and complains, but yet they drawl a salary and don't pay into Social Security, then they get a huge petition paid by taxpayers upon retirement, but yet if Congress was put on minimum wage I bet things would be alot different.

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                    • #25
                      I was actually talking about the rich not paying as much taxes as the poor and 2nd class citizens and how the Government caters to this, now recently Obama has taxed people making a certain amount per year. The Government caters to the rich because the rich technically run the country, its all about who has the almighty dollar to push a vote. Congress gripes and complains, but yet they drawl a salary and don't pay into Social Security, then they get a huge petition paid by taxpayers upon retirement, but yet if Congress was put on minimum wage I bet things would be alot different.
                      Boy do you have some growing up and learning to do still. Are you saying that you don't want to be that guy that makes $250K? That is not an impossible thing to do you know? Especially owning your own business. And what do you meant that the rich do not pay as much in taxes as the poor. That is BS.

                      Look at the tax brackets, why are there even tax brackets if you want it to be fair? How come the poor guy only has to give the government 10% of his income where the rich guy has to give the government 35%. Not only is the rich guy paying a higher dollar amount, he is also paying a higher percentage.

                      Now you say that he can afford it. Of course he can but just like anyone else, including you, they do not like to pay taxes.

                      You think that taxing the rich more is going to solve problems? How about cutting spending? Are you aware that all these cuts in spending that you hear about are cuts in increases only? Say the budget was $1 million this year and next year we want to spend $1.5 million but we have to make some cuts and we cut out $.25 million. That works out to a 16% cut in spending but in reality is is a 25% increase in spending.

                      Don't let these morons fool you, the problem is not in the tax code, it is in the spending. Have you ever been in a government office and watched people sleep at their desks? Yeah I have seen it durring their 9-5 job.

                      In order for this country to succeed, the government should only do what the civilian area can, should or will not do such as the military etc.

                      Everyone looks at it like a business and look at it as a revenue problem, it is a spending problem.
                      Pat

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                      • #26
                        I only have two words for cleaning bad stains or oil STEAM JENNY, 180 degree to 250 degree water or steam at high pressure cleans everything.
                        Of course you have to be careful, and have some money (mine cost 4 grand used) but wow what a clean

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                        • #27
                          Boy do you have some growing up and learning to do still. Are you saying that you don't want to be that guy that makes $250K? That is not an impossible thing to do you know? Especially owning your own business. And what do you meant that the rich do not pay as much in taxes as the poor. That is BS.

                          Look at the tax brackets, why are there even tax brackets if you want it to be fair? How come the poor guy only has to give the government 10% of his income where the rich guy has to give the government 35%. Not only is the rich guy paying a higher dollar amount, he is also paying a higher percentage.

                          Now you say that he can afford it. Of course he can but just like anyone else, including you, they do not like to pay taxes.

                          You think that taxing the rich more is going to solve problems? How about cutting spending? Are you aware that all these cuts in spending that you hear about are cuts in increases only? Say the budget was $1 million this year and next year we want to spend $1.5 million but we have to make some cuts and we cut out $.25 million. That works out to a 16% cut in spending but in reality is is a 25% increase in spending.

                          Don't let these morons fool you, the problem is not in the tax code, it is in the spending. Have you ever been in a government office and watched people sleep at their desks? Yeah I have seen it durring their 9-5 job.

                          In order for this country to succeed, the government should only do what the civilian area can, should or will not do such as the military etc.

                          Everyone looks at it like a business and look at it as a revenue problem, it is a spending problem.
                          I'm officially to the point where I'll post pictures of my equipment and trailer set up when I get them and maybe a few updates on how my business goes, but other than that I won't be posting any more on here. I'm done saying anything and offering my input and advice and from now on I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut. I've learned what I need to do and not do and that is that, thank you to everyone for their input and help.

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                          • #28
                            I'm done saying anything and offering my input and advice and from now on I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut. I've learned what I need to do and not do and that is that, thank you to everyone for their input and help.
                            In all fairness, as the moderator, I think it is important to point out this is a very good learning experience. If you have an idea to experiment with and someone points out...

                            It amazes me that you have no inhibitions of using an acid and then washing it down a storm drain that is usually not treated before it hits the streams. I am not a tree hugger but we do need to use some caution when it comes to the environment. Laws are getting tougher and tougher when it comes to pressure washing as it is.
                            It may give you pause that there is a potential problem you could run into. I don't know the laws on this, but after hearing some of these responses, it may be prudent to investigate this further.

                            You may have been saved from trouble down the road, so all in all, the information that was shared was all a good thing.
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