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  • #16
    You guys are blowing it all out of proportion. Im trying to get rich, and just do exactly what you are doing, so all in all we are competetors, and are debating eachother and basically telling me im an idiot. I just need more clients, and if someone new to the game has is a$$ in the weeds because he has gotten to many clients, and wants more, but needs a "helper" then we take all the accounts, and I show him my business proposal, and I show him that we are going for the clientel. If you have not seen my website, which I have looked at most of yours, and granted their nice. Mine is easy, bold and straight to the point. My point im after is... I want more clients as well, but I wont be able to handle more by myself, so if I find someone who is wanting more as well, but cant, then we come together, and not go 50/50 because Im basically looking for someone to share the "dream" that I have, and eventually make him and I a rich man/lady. I guess I really dont know how to explain it "online" but if you had 26 clients, and you were getting your butt handed to you, and if I had 50 clients, and need help, I would want this guy with 26, now having 76 clients, and looking for 24 more equalling to 100 we hire our third person, and I give them $600 a week, and we continue to get more clients, and every 100 houses, they get $600 a week, and as more clients come in, the more money the very first team makes. Letting everyone else get raises as well. You have to get in my mind and see where im going with this. So my question is: Do you live in Kc Mo and have a few clients, and want to work with me, and get more and more clients, so we can start making the real money. Thanks guys. I hope you understand a little more...

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    • #17
      Ok I kinda understand where your going with this USA but that's not how he is putting it. He calls it merging or partnering. Where he gets an even split of my profit. This seems like the service magic system of we get clients for you and you pay us $12 even if they choose not to take you. With USA they are sharing the profit on a job that they are doing. Not sure what he does if he refers someone as "sub contractor" and they don't take the sub as a LCO. I'm just saying why am I splitting my profits in a world that the money doesn't make me rich as it is because your "paying your cousins" to make cold calls that myself or someone I pay can do for me and I keep all the profits. Yea I get calls and I say call XYZ company if it's something I don't do or I feel it's to big for me. Do I ask them for money absoultely not but if they hand me 20 I say thanks. I have refered about twenty people to three different companies and I don't do it expecting a profit from reffering them. That's my theory I'm not sharing my income with someone out of state that's not direct marketing for my company and getting in the field and helping me out. Good luck to you if it's working but wait for that first law suit of well he threw a rock through my window. Or he sprayed XYZ chemical and my whole lawn/landscape needs to be replaced but I called USA/GRASS WHOOPINGS not Mike Lawn's Service.....guess what your both beat unless you have it in your contract with Mike's Lawn Service that he takes all the financial and legal obligations and even then they will probably sue you anyway because most likely your bigger and have more $$$$.....and you might wanna look into your insurance I know they asked me if I sub out work or if I am a sub for someone else. There is a huge possiblity to loose it all over a few hundred or thosand bucks. Good LUCK! All I gotta say is I ain't beat for it.
      I understand what your saying, and i am insured, but i would be sub contracting them out, and they would have their own insurance, and their own team, they will just be selling my name. If they mess up, I may have to deal with it, but thats why we pay for insurance. Im just a low joe, all year care lawn care. I help out more elderly people cuz i fit more into their budget since the dr tells them they cant do this stuff anymore. If this gas stations has gas at $3.39 and this one across the street has gas for $3.37 Im going to the $3.37 arent you??? Going for the clientel, going for the distance, going for the goal. "I HAAAVE AAAAA DREEAAAAMMM!!"

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      • #18
        it's subcontracting.
        I'm doing it also.........it works just fine for me and yes, believe it or not, you can actually sub out nationally.
        And, yes, I have a detailed business plan that I am following.
        It's quite amazing that I can take something as simple as having 1 guy mow 5 or 10 accounts (not enough to get his britches in a bind when it rains) and multiply that however many times I feel like doing it absolutely anywhere.
        I have accounts in my own city, along with 4 other cities that are within 1-2 hours away working the same plan............reliable guy......mowing 5-10 accounts for me.......over and over and over.
        Love it or hate it.....it works.
        im not trying to go out of different states right now, im trying to stay within the 30 mile radius of Mo until word of mouth gets out good enough for me, where many houses in the same city of the same state want my business, I will put an add out, and see if anyone want to become part of Grass Whoopins, and they would take on the service out there, and I will get my cut yes, but he is representing Grass Whoopins, but still making his money. He will be a "team leader" and when he gets 100 houses, he hires two more people, and now I have business in a different state. Im Walmart all the way

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        • #19
          From your point of view, what is the difference if you simply hired more staff versus merging with another already operating lawn care business?

          Wouldn't you potentially make more money if you expanded and simply hired on more employees? Or no?
          I would, but I have to have more clients, to be able to do that. Im not big like Liberty Landscaping, but some day I will. You started on the ground too one time, and as am I. but Im climbing the ladder, and just trying to make a living like every other lawn service. You gotta love the other lawn services taking your signs down off of telephone poles, that just kills me. Of course I put them up with the ladder after losing so many in the beginning. Wish me luck. ANYONE FROM KC MO, EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT MORE INFO FACE TO FACE, its much easier to explain.

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          • #20
            Meh. I dunno... I know a guy who does something like this. He advertises services in areas that he himself doesn't cover, but he knows guys in those areas that he calls when he needs them. Basically, he gets a percentage of what they make on a job. He's subcontracting the work out - he's not a "partner" with them and they don't work under his name.
            This is exactly what im talking about. I dont want to drive 25 miles to mow one effing lawn. So im looking for others around me, that i can call to take the job, and I will get a cut, but he will get more for the job. Business is Business, and I love money!

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            • #21
              You guys are blowing it all out of proportion. Im trying to get rich, and just do exactly what you are doing, so all in all we are competetors, and are debating eachother and basically telling me im an idiot. I just need more clients, and if someone new to the game has is a$$ in the weeds because he has gotten to many clients, and wants more, but needs a "helper" then we take all the accounts, and I show him my business proposal, and I show him that we are going for the clientel. If you have not seen my website, which I have looked at most of yours, and granted their nice. Mine is easy, bold and straight to the point. My point im after is... I want more clients as well, but I wont be able to handle more by myself, so if I find someone who is wanting more as well, but cant, then we come together, and not go 50/50 because Im basically looking for someone to share the "dream" that I have, and eventually make him and I a rich man/lady. I guess I really dont know how to explain it "online" but if you had 26 clients, and you were getting your butt handed to you, and if I had 50 clients, and need help, I would want this guy with 26, now having 76 clients, and looking for 24 more equalling to 100 we hire our third person, and I give them $600 a week, and we continue to get more clients, and every 100 houses, they get $600 a week, and as more clients come in, the more money the very first team makes. Letting everyone else get raises as well. You have to get in my mind and see where im going with this. So my question is: Do you live in Kc Mo and have a few clients, and want to work with me, and get more and more clients, so we can start making the real money. Thanks guys. I hope you understand a little more...
              isnt that a pyramid scheme? or am I understanding it wrong?

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              • #22
                This is exactly what im talking about. I dont want to drive 25 miles to mow one effing lawn. So im looking for others around me, that i can call to take the job, and I will get a cut, but he will get more for the job. Business is Business, and I love money!
                I'm not knocking your business plan at all so don't take it that way.
                I sub out a bunch of lawns....along with mowing myself....and it's just that this last statement I have quoted above sounded like simple subcontracting but your other explanation does sound like a pyrimid (which is kind of how I read it also). And, the guy mowing definitely needs to not only 'get more for the job' but get paid enough to keep him happy and not make him grumble when he's mowing. Make your guy successful with enough money and you will make money also and have a reliable 'sub-contractor' or whatever kind of partner he is.

                Sincerely, best of luck and I will be following this thread and your business plan out of curiosity.

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                • #23
                  sounds Dangerous I Hope Your Covering Your But For When It All Goes South.... Make Sure You Have Iron Clad Contracts As Some Of These Partners Will Try To Clean You Out...

                  Your Business Quality Will Go Down! Quantity In This Business Is Bad.

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                  • #24
                    Grass Whoopings
                    I am by far not a big company I do this one day sometimes two days a week. I work full time. Yes I to heard PYRAMID SCHEME Shouting in my ear while reading your one post. I understand where you are coming from. The one huge downfall I see in your plan is when you charge say 35 a lawn a wk. That's 140 a week. Yea it's good money for one guy cutting a lawn and maybe still decent after paying a helper and expenses but then factoring in a percentage a cut to the "parent company" (not sure what you would be called so I am going with that) and now his 35 dollar a cut is what 30 say your taking 10-15% a cut. Then he factors in his overhead which honestly all he is looking at is his profit. He might make 5-10 a cut off that 35 with you taking 10-15%. You see if you take more at that point it's not fesible for him to even bother taking "your work" he would get from the "parent company". Who's to say he doesn't get Ms Smith to sign directly with Mike's Lawn Service next year and eliminate you completely. He's the one with direct customer contact they would see him every cut anyway. I understand where your coming from but unless your there cutting with him and they see you every time or often Mike's Lawn Service will try and eliminate you totally. That's why taking a fee from them off the bat "selling him the account" would be wiser. In your first posts you were seeking anyone in your area or out of state companies looking to "merge" or whatever you wanna call it. Everyone loves money but personally I wouldn't do it this way.
                    Liberty Landscaping LLC
                    www.libertylndscpng.com
                    Woodbridge, NJ

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                    • #25
                      just checking in to see how things are moving along with your business plan.

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                      • #26
                        It seems like it would be difficult to pull it all together. I am sure it is possible, but the difficulty level would be high.

                        I'd like to hear more updates too.
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                        • #27
                          Over three years later, I wonder if this plan worked out.
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                          • #28
                            Over three years later, I wonder if this plan worked out.
                            Ha, this was three yrs ago??? I did some snooping and no, didn't seem to.

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                            • #29
                              It sounds like this guy copied thing I had said on other sites
                              And tried to run a big show. Wish I had seen
                              This then, it took me years to work out the details to do what he was trying to copy.
                              I would have loved to shook his hand if it had worked out I bet he would be a wreck by now had it worked.

                              It took me 5 years to learn how to get out past my surrounding counties...
                              His 30 mile plan, I had grown to cover 75 counties or so when I took o county that was 65 miles from a supporting county and ...it failed in 3 months,
                              I had no way to help that crew out, they grew and it rained and well we picked up equipment by fall!!
                              It is truely a simple system but it takes guts to work it out.

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                              • #30
                                I am going to guess 2012 was the end for ole whoopin bear!

                                Just seen the Facebook, great laugh
                                Nice avatar of the bear then seen the standard pickup truck.
                                Where's the beat???? No branding at all?
                                Nice rims though, where his profits went?
                                Way more questions then answers

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