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  • #16
    You mentioned getting Incorporated, what benefit besides seperating your personal finances wth your business ones does getting incorportated do for a small business of our type?? And, how would one go about getting this done, sounds expensive.

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    • #17
      Hi Andy,

      Quote[/b] ]You mentioned getting Incorporated, what benefit besides seperating your personal finances wth your business ones does getting incorportated do for a small business of our type?? And, how would one go about getting this done, sounds expensive.
      Good question.

      What are the benefits of incorporating? - The single most important reason people use the corporate form of doing business is to safeguard the personal assets of the owners **** the shareholders (or stockholders) of the corporation **** against potential claims of creditors. Sole proprietors and general partners in a partnership are personally liable for all debts and obligations of the business, such as loans, accounts payable, and defective products. Stockholders typically are not liable for ordinary debts and obligations.

      You can incorporate yourself and I don't think it costs more than a couple hundred bucks.

      One of the big reasons we see lawn caer operators incorporate is because they currently have personal assets they want to protect before they get started or their business has become large enough where they have acquired personal assets they want to protect.

      What's your view on this?
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      • #18
        Welcome Tony, and good luck!

        If you need anything let me know.

        Thanks,
        Tony W.

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        • #19
          The longer I am at the rental store the more I want to go full time on the lawn industry I wish that I didn't have the debt that I have and need the job at the moment, I am disapointed on how things are being handling 99% of the time the rental job is fine but when you have a customer who has no respect for you and the service your providing and the owner/boss allows the harrasement because that person owes the company money and is allowed to take items on a pay on return order and has a balance already owed is really agravating. The way I look at it, if that person is causing a problem he's no longer welcome to come and use our equipment to make him money cut him off, make the person pay the balance or send him to collections and be done with.

          I was ready to call it quits. Although I think my boss just realaized that I won't take that customers bull**** anymore and gave me the time off that I requested near 2 months ago now, maybe he really does need me, wich I know everyone is replacable but now I have near 8 years in the business and close the store monday, tuesday, wednesday, friday and every other saturday - yeah I get to open once.

          Just getting some stress out to those who really seem nice and carring.


          Thanks Tony

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          • #20
            Hi Tony,

            I am sorry this is going on, but in a sense it does fuel your fire to do your own business on a larger scale.

            It's also a great reminder of how to deal with customers in the future when they are abusive to your staff.

            Have you thought of ways you can speed up the process of going full time with your business?
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            • #21
              Hey Tony, Hang in there dude.

              I'm starting out kind of like you with little equipment and the hope of having bigger things in a years time. *Most of the time it's the crazist situations that propell us to bigger success. *By midsummer when your running you own business and all that money and effort is yours, you'll be totally laughing at those eight years. *Just keep plugging away at it and learn from their mistakes on customer service and how to run your business. Total freedom is just a few months away. Good luck with some fall clean ups

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              • #22
                Quote[/b] (Nikon @ Nov. 21 2007,12:00)]Can anyone help me *on a how to come up with a company name , Tony Artan's Lawn Care Services is kinda well everyone else I suppose =)



                help , tony
                Hi Tony and welcome to the Gopher Forum

                How About calling your company:
                "Full Spectrum Lawn Services"

                with the slogan:
                "Beautifing Your Piece Of Earth"


                Just a tought.
                Tim

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                • #23
                  Thanks a bunch I am hanging in here and doing some salt and snow removal now that the season is here, didn't get to much to do with fall cleanups but I still pocketed 320.00 from 3 jobs so it work out well, out of the 18 clients thus far. A few have requested salt and snow this year and I never done it for someone else for a fee and I am kinda wondering on what to charge. The houses are pretty small and only want the front and walks done. I was kinda thinking atleast 25.00 for both snow and salt no greater then 4" of snow and just for salt alone would be 10.00. I am anticapating that total time would not be longer then 30min at each job, the salting would probably take 10 mins at the most.

                  I don't have a plow or a salter since I'm not doing driveways, but I do have a salt spreader that I got to make my job a lot easier.

                  If you have any suggestions please feel free.

                  you can contact me on yahoo user nikon_n3 ( some other person stole my name) Nikon *



                  http://www.saltdogg.com/Salt_Spreader/walkBehind.html


                  I also live in Michigan, Hazel Park if anyone cares to know.



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                  • #24
                    Quote[/b] (Nikon @ Dec. 15 2007,2:03)]Thanks a bunch I am hanging in here and doing some salt and snow removal now that the season is here, didn't get to much to do with fall cleanups but I still pocketed 320.00 from 3 jobs so it work out well, out of the 18 clients thus far. A few have requested salt and snow this year and I never done it for someone else for a fee and I am kinda wondering on what to charge. The houses are pretty small and only want the front and walks done. I was kinda thinking atleast 25.00 for both snow and salt no greater then 4" of snow and just for salt alone would be 10.00. I am anticapating that total time would not be longer then 30min at each job, the salting would probably take 10 mins at the most.

                    I don't have a plow or a salter since I'm not doing driveways, but I do have a salt spreader that I got to make my job a lot easier.

                    If you have any suggestions please feel free.

                    you can contact me on yahoo user nikon_n3 ( some other person stole my name) Nikon *
                    $25 is ok but I charge $35 min for 1/2 hour $1 per min after first 1/2 hour. Salt/Ice melt is extra $10.00 and leave a 5 gal. bucket of salt for them to use if you can't get to them right away on the next snow fall.

                    Equipment to use on resi customers is a medium 24" to larger 30"+ walkbehind snow thrower. This way if the car is in the drive you can get around it with out it having to be moved.

                    Larger jobs Long Drives a Quad with plow and spreader works real nice. Charge more for the quad jobs.

                    hope this helps



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                    • #25
                      yeah that pretty much puts everything in perspective. I know I wasn't very far off with pricing. I was thinking just the 10.00 for salt though when we get ice coming and so forth.

                      I think next year my lawn rates are going to be going up to 18.00 a lawn, since thats pretty much the going rate. Some companies are even charging 28.00 dollars a cut for some of the properties that I am doing. I just didn't advertise since I work full time at the rental store as well.

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                      • #26
                        Woot made a phone call and got snow removal job. 25 for the snow removal and 10.00 for salting.

                        job total will be 35 min max.


                        Thanks for your information.

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                        • #27
                          Quote[/b] (Nikon @ Nov. 30 2007,8:34)]The longer I am at the rental store the more I want to go full time on the lawn industry I wish that I didn't have the debt that I have and need the job at the moment, I am disapointed on how things are being handling 99% of the time the rental job is fine but when you have a customer who has no respect for you and the service your providing and the owner/boss allows the harrasement because that person owes the company money and is allowed to take items on a pay on return order and has a balance already owed is really agravating. The way I look at it, if that person is causing a problem he's no longer welcome to come and use our equipment to make him money cut him off, make the person pay the balance or send him to collections and be done with.

                          I was ready to call it quits. Although I think my boss just realaized that I won't take that customers bull**** anymore and gave me the time off that I requested near 2 months ago now, maybe he really does need me, wich I know everyone is replacable but now I have near 8 years in the business and close the store monday, tuesday, wednesday, friday and every other saturday - yeah I get to open once.

                          Just getting some stress out to those who really seem nice and carring.


                          Thanks Tony
                          Tony, Are you doing snow this season?
                          (plowing)

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                          • #28
                            Quote[/b] (Nikon @ Dec. 15 2007,2:03)]Thanks a bunch I am hanging in here and doing some salt and snow removal now that the season is here, didn't get to much to do with fall cleanups but I still pocketed 320.00 from 3 jobs so it work out well, out of the 18 clients thus far. A few have requested salt and snow this year and I never done it for someone else for a fee and I am kinda wondering on what to charge. The houses are pretty small and only want the front and walks done. I was kinda thinking atleast 25.00 for both snow and salt no greater then 4" of snow and just for salt alone would be 10.00. I am anticapating that total time would not be longer then 30min at each job, the salting would probably take 10 mins at the most.

                            I don't have a plow or a salter since I'm not doing driveways, but I do have a salt spreader that I got to make my job a lot easier.

                            If you have any suggestions please feel free.

                            you can contact me on yahoo user nikon_n3 ( some other person stole my name) Nikon *



                            http://www.saltdogg.com/Salt_Spreader/walkBehind.html


                            I also live in Michigan, Hazel Park if anyone cares to know.
                            Sorry just read this...I have an old commercial customer that needs someone to plow.

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                            • #29
                              Where abouts and how large ?


                              Remember I have 12" heighth and 20" width snow blower and well a new salt spreader " woot "

                              I got a few houses to do tommarow.

                              give me a call 248 721 9867

                              Thanks Tony



                              oh yeah check this out http://www.grandcentral.com


                              =)



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                              • #30
                                Quote[/b] (Nikon @ Dec. 15 2007,7:41)]Where abouts and how large ?


                                Remember I have 12" heighth and 20" width snow blower and well a new salt spreader " woot "

                                I got a few houses to do tommarow.

                                give me a call 248 721 9867

                                Thanks Tony



                                oh yeah check this out http://www.grandcentral.com


                                =)
                                They use a snow blower to do it them selves, its small...but you need a plow to do it..i did it for 8 years.

                                I will keep you in mind if i hear of anything else around you.

                                I'm off to check that my snow blower is ready for tomorow...lst year i got a new one and i have to keep reminding myself NO 2 cycle mix!
                                I also have a 20hp tractor w/ plow on it...but never use it, guess i should check that thats in working order too.

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