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    We laughed at this before, but now it's true!

    With all the work I have, even with a small dusting of snow I will be out over 12 hours.

    Not only does this tire me out physically, but mentally as well. I'm at the point I'm going to refuse myself to go out again without help.

    I've been out three times now, and each time has messed me up pretty bad. Tomorrow we are expecting 10-25cm of snow compared to the 3-5cm we've been getting.

    also,

    No one wants to work for $14/hr. I've even decided to pay hourly that's how desperate I've become! I need two guys alongside me tomorrow, or my brain is going to pop out of my skull. It's so unhealthy to do this crap alone like I've been doing. I literally work until I can't function at all.



    This is just an update, lol.

  • #2
    I never have a problem finding helpers even when theyre only working 2-3 hours.

    Try craigslist. I use my friends but I had some good responses from ads. Also if you have labor ready like place go there and pick up a few guys.

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    • #3
      Scott,

      Would anything help make your life easier, like a snow blower? Or any other tools?

      How do you think you are going to handle these things differently next year?
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      • #4
        Scott,

        Would anything help make your life easier, like a snow blower? Or any other tools?

        How do you think you are going to handle these things differently next year?

        A lot of people recommend a snow blower, but it really wouldn't help or speed things up considering a shovel actually does a cleaner job, and I can do steps too.

        All I know is I'm pretty screwed. Even if I just had some company it would make the day(s) go better for me. My truck is a mess right now, I've got drinks all over the place and cheese from a burger stuck on my window lol. I love my job, but right now it's the most dreadful thing I have ever experienced.

        As for next year, I'm hoping to at least have a solid crew. Or else screw this, I'm going on vacation... lol... it's all about the beautiful money though <3

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        • #5
          Scott
          You might want to look into a small snow blower. Believe it or not it dose save time and energy.

          Example 1st storm I had no snow blower (It was out of service) I did 6 driveways and entrances it took me approx 7 hours work and travel time.

          2nd storm I had my snow blower and a assortment of shovels I did the same 6 jobs in 3.5 hours plus I did one extra that flagged me down. $$ $$

          It might seem like more to load and unload but it really dose make it easier on your body and faster overall and we all know

          TIME is MONEY.

          I found that on storm 1 I got slower and slower with each job I did.first job 1/2 hour max last job 1.5 hour min and then I was useless the next day . Storm two I was just as fast on the last job as I was on the first job and I could have done more so I could have made even more money.
          You know what is best for your situation but it is worth looking at buddy you know we all want you alive and healthy physical and mental.

          Graham
          AKA: Ducke

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          • #6
            I usually laugh at these guys on these forums that wish they had one of those little pos single stage blowers ,they truly wouldnt work where I live ,but since it appears your doing walkways more than anything ,something like that might work good for you .They clear to the ground fairly well ,and even if they dont save you any real time ,your body will thank you for sure as shovelling heavy snow all day is going to take its toll on your body sooner rather than later .

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            • #7
              I also keep in mind how noisy I can be during the night.

              Kind of like last year, it seems I am usually stuck starting at nighttime...

              I usually get to that point of exhaustion I wouldn't be able to deal with NOT swearing at the first person to complain. No matter how tired I am, I will always have that hidden strength to throw a damn snow blower at someone... lol

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              • #8
                Also what about the area you are servicing? Would a tighter route help you improve profitability?
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                • #9
                  Also what about the area you are servicing? Would a tighter route help you improve profitability?
                  The route is solid, which is somehow unfortunate lol. I wish there was a way to do this without taking so long!

                  It takes me an average of 3-5 minutes per walkway. It's almost like using a blower during the summer, it's the 'quick' part of the job.

                  I'm not losing time driving, or shoveling. I'm losing time by being a one person show.

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                  • #10
                    are you anywhere near concordia university ? I have a hard working nephew going there ,he might be looking for something to do although he is in switzerland playing hockey for the next week or so .

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                    • #11
                      What I used to do with my guys was instead of paying them hourly I gave them a percentage on the job. So if a driveway was $25, they made 70% of that. They loved it because they made more money compared to an hourly rate. I kept my guys happy, and kept them around all year round.

                      But in regards about too many clients it's funny you mentioned that because we just cut 9 clients. We overbooked way too much this year, and we didn't want our clients or our service quality to suffer, so we cut 9 of them. We weren't happy about it, but we couldn't justify stepping out to purchase another snow blower, and/or load our subs with more work (because they were already full too).
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                      • #12
                        Come on man, did you not know that it was going to snow this winter? Why have you hung on to so many clients if you can't handle the work load? And why are you still shovling?Our residential crew can plow a drive and sidewalk 5 min or less and that's a two man crew one running the tractor and one shoveling the step and corners. I would say a lot of your problems with not being able to find or keep some working for you are in the way you run you business.

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                        • #13
                          Come on man, did you not know that it was going to snow this winter? Why have you hung on to so many clients if you can't handle the work load? And why are you still shovling?Our residential crew can plow a drive and sidewalk 5 min or less and that's a two man crew one running the tractor and one shoveling the step and corners. I would say a lot of your problems with not being able to find or keep some working for you are in the way you run you business.

                          I'm greedy. lol.

                          I'm also a sub contractor, so all of another companies work comes straight to me. It's either all or nothing.

                          As for why I'd rather shovel over plows/tractors. The competition rules, getting involved right now would be a complete waste of time. Most guys just choose who to ally with and assist them rather than start something new. Winter is also a huge loss here in my area, where companies spend more than they make. The big or 'older' guys have the power to do that, newer companies would soon be bankrupt. All of these big companies have lowered their prices so dramatically, the smaller guys wouldn't survive at all. We're talking minimum $100 for a single driveway, peanuts.

                          It's kind of like hockey. The best players from a place, all join into one team for the Olympics! Then we hate each other when the grass comes back!

                          /
                          Shoveling walkways isn't very popular in our area. Not a lot of companies offer this service, I thought I would be the one to really take advantage of it. The company I take work from offers it, so I thought I'd build up by taking what they've got.

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                          Concordia is fairly distant. I wouldn't recommend for him to travel all the way out here from that area. It would be cruel. lol.

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                          In short. I went out with some help today. We started at 7PM, and we finished at approx 3AM. It helps!

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                          • #14
                            I think a lot of the forum members follow you and consider your ways when their are planning their next step.

                            Are you still glad you choose to do things this way this winter?
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                            • #15
                              I think a lot of the forum members follow you and consider your ways when their are planning their next step.

                              Are you still glad you choose to do things this way this winter?
                              There are a lot of negative things that pop up every now and then, but it's good to keep in mind that it's only temporary and I will be able to make improvements. It may not be now or next year, but the time will surely come!

                              I believe that there is always a way to simplify something, and I am always brainstorming for solutions to do better. As miserable as I can get, I somewhat enjoy putting myself into these situations and coming out smarter/stronger in the end. In a way I am thankful for the mistakes I've made because they usually don't persist.

                              I'm looking into getting a new GPS unit installed for the truck, with the ability to manage my routes better. Settling for the 'a to b' GPS isn't as productive as I had thought.

                              I know my area very well, but I notice under stress I couldn't find my way out of a parking lot. As a business owner, there is no escaping that 'panic/rush' feeling that can often lead me to be distracted. There is no reason not to invest in productivity.

                              Last night, I took an HOUR break to myself. Normally I would never do this, as I'm the 'eat as I work' type of person. By taking a break and not eating in the truck, I gave myself a chance to snap out of the 'work trance' and that alone gave me a pretty big boost to finish the workload strong.

                              Running a business is very stressful, the lesson I have learned is to pace yourself and make taking breaks mandatory. If we work like machines, we'll feel like a machine... It's very unhealthy.

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