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  • #16
    These are all great insights.

    I wonder if this is a matter of finding happiness. If it is a question of, am I happy doing what I am doing now?

    You have tried many things. Is it possible at times you feel this business is not as mentally stimulating or challenging as you would like it to be? Maybe that is part of why it's not potentially really lighting your fire? Maybe as you were out for your drive you were thinking, there has got to be something bigger out there for me. Something better? Something I would enjoy more?
    That is very very possible. I am cured that at any given time my mind is always going a million different directions. Normally it works in my favor as I have the answer before the question.
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    • #17
      under the table

      Well since your my business attorney you would know I pay my taxes and claim my income and file accordingly to my state law. All my advertising and receipts I can write off. I advertise alot in my area. In fact i just threw down another $1300 for next year in advertising. I probably spend more in advertising then I should but, its my money. I don't owe you any explanations but since you threw your words at me I thought id tell you. Nobody is here to start flame wars or try to one up everybody ok. Just to let you know. Im beyond that and do not have the time for it. If you have any personal attacks against me then hit me up in personal message and we can settle our differences there. Not on a public forum where people are looking to learn new idea's and share whats working or what isn't. There is alot to learn and I will never learn all of it but, i do enjoy reading what others have been doing that is working because truth is, nobody has to share. And i am curious. I have been mowing lawns for people for a long time I just didn't get into it this year. I enjoy the forum I enjoy people's opinions and there struggles and triumphs. So hopefully, that will be the last time you make a comment like that to me again. I saw you made a post I know you work a full time job. I simply said if you do not like the extra money then it's not for you. I am here to make money and alot of it. And there is some people here that know how to make alot and I want to know those people. It has nothing about working under the table, it is not about accepting cash instead of a check its not about having 3 million dollars worth of insurance. In fact, that is nobodies business except the people involved. You have to start somewhere and there is alot of people out there that are starting this sort of business. I would care less if they worked under the table because I know for a fact not everyone has claimed a $55.00 cash in hand. Money is money. So please in the future do not point your finger at me about any of that when you have your own issues to deal about, as we all do. Sorry for the rant

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      • #18
        I think you guys think way too much about this. Its this simple really. Make money or get out. Either you like having extra money or you don't. It does not take a brain surgeon to do simple math.
        You came into this thread with an attitude. Get over it or don't post. The questions are asked to get incite from others not remark from jerks. I assume you are the type who must get the last word in so I expect you to reply but I will not play the game by keeping it going so any reply's will fall on def ears. Thanks for the incite.
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        • #19
          hmm?

          well not trying to be a jerk jason. You make alot of money doing this kind of work and when you posted that your not feeling it anymore i guess most people are motivated by money so i was just trying to make it a realization of keep making money. you can only make so much money working for someone. someone tells you you are worth x amount a year, month, week, day. Well mowing lawns and doing whatever else you dont have that mindset anymore of i am only worth 300 a week. I guess i wake up and say i want to make 500 today what do i have to do to do that? Maybe if your not feeling connected with this type of work anymore maybe keep mowing lawns and offer other services to get you out of mowing lawns so much. I guess thats all i meant in my response sorry you took it the wrong way. I didn't mean any harm. Your at the stage of this and we all go thru it at some point. Do you like cleaning gutter's? How about foundation work? pest control? just some options. I dont know what your capable of doing or what equipment you have to do things with. I get bored mowing lawns and trimming. I can't do that everyday, my mind is always moving might be ADD dunno. foundation work i make alot of money doing that but it gets me out of mowing. Same with gutters or tree trimming.
          Maybe thats what you need to focus on and it's time to expand more of your services that you can offer to keep everything more diverse instead of the same thing daily? Just trying to be helpful jason nothing more...

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          • #20
            I'm not sure its all about making money for me. I make way more than I need. I am one of the rare over paid, under worked Americans left. I could more than likely walk away from all work right now and be perfectly happy for the rest of my life. I am not sure if I have lost interest in the work or what the deal is. I jsut got this overwhelming feeling the other day that is for the most part unexplainable. I don't know what brought it on.
            White Company

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            • #21
              well

              LOL...overpaid and underworked has its advantages as well.... I think only you can decide for yourself what the best option is for you and your family is. I know for me I have to keep moving and making money and people like me have no choice really. I am a certified welder i can go anywhere and work. I make more doing this then i would doing that. I do both, one for not very long. So, i just plug away I have great benefits at my current job and thats why i am still there untill i can produce enough $$$ every month to be able to walk away and not worry about that. Lot of variables.

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              • #22
                I jsut got this overwhelming feeling the other day that is for the most part unexplainable. I don't know what brought it on.
                Last week, one of my friend's lost his mother to a long illness. I hadn't gotten much of a chance to talk to him at all until the other day and I sat down and looked at him.

                He had a thousand yard stare and it was very difficult for him to engage into the conversation. We were talking and I asked when he was going back to work and he said he didn't know if he would. He was saying this as his young son wandered about the room.

                He looked up at me and said he didn't know why he had spent so much of his life working with people he didnt like. Spending the majority of the day with people he didn't like and then spending the least amount of time with his new son.

                He felt he should be spending more time with him because he was coming to the conclusion life is short.

                What will he do? I don't know.

                But I don't think it takes a death to put you into the mood of reflecting on things.

                A brief moment of pondering can do it and then you start to wonder. What is it I am doing? Why am I doing it?

                We all tend to get where we are at, slowly over time with small steps that don't stand out. Then one day we are somewhere, where we might not have wanted to be and wonder how we got there.

                Maybe this realization is good though as a course correction. Maybe we need times like these to regroup and re-evaluate. Then we can come up with a new direction. But this is always really tough to do. It's hard to break old habits.
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                • #23
                  I have a few plans which keep me interested in my work.

                  I think the problem is that your doing all this work with no time to enjoy life to the fullest!


                  I plan to expand & bring in more money until I can afford a nice big ol' boat!

                  With the boat I can start a company where I take people fishing, or just an adventure, maybe an expedition! LMAO

                  Fisher Boat
                  Water Taxi
                  Luxury Dining (could have a chef on board) where people come on board & pay big money to eat fine food out in the middle of nowhere.

                  I have no set idea! Sounds like a great retirement job to me.



                  Do you have any future plans to keep you motivated? Maybe you haven't figured out what you want to do for a living yet?

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                  • #24
                    Maybe you haven't figured out what you want to do for a living yet?
                    Also who's to say if there is ever a single thing that is out there that you would want to do for a living. It could be possible that it changes overtime. New interests arise as older interests get boring.
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                    • #25
                      id almost bet it had somthing to do withnot getting big enough fast enough. i had one job this week which sucks. next week however i have at least 3 going. it would be nice to get more and make more money but calls have compleatly stoped coming in now
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                      • #26
                        I have a few plans which keep me interested in my work.

                        I think the problem is that your doing all this work with no time to enjoy life to the fullest!


                        I plan to expand & bring in more money until I can afford a nice big ol' boat!

                        With the boat I can start a company where I take people fishing, or just an adventure, maybe an expedition! LMAO

                        Fisher Boat
                        Water Taxi
                        Luxury Dining (could have a chef on board) where people come on board & pay big money to eat fine food out in the middle of nowhere.

                        I have no set idea! Sounds like a great retirement job to me.



                        Do you have any future plans to keep you motivated? Maybe you haven't figured out what you want to do for a living yet?
                        no plans. i live for today not for tomorow
                        White Company

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                        • #27
                          ok

                          what have you been doing for advertising to drive people to call you?
                          What are you offering as services?
                          What makes you stand out from everybody else that are in this line?
                          The phone needs to ring everyday so, the work comes in.

                          The biggest reason thsat motivates me is my 2 year old daughter.
                          what is going to happen in 18 years from now when she wants schooling or a vehicle or wants to move to puerto vallarta mexico? How can I offord all that?

                          guys like me have to keep working and moving. when i spend 5 dollars i have to find a way to make 15.00. That is my mindset. It has to be. If you have advertised in the past how many calls were you getting daily/weekly?

                          I saw your website are you going to do more with it?

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                          • #28
                            id almost bet it had somthing to do withnot getting big enough fast enough. i had one job this week which sucks. next week however i have at least 3 going. it would be nice to get more and make more money but calls have compleatly stoped coming in now
                            This is a very good point. When a business is getting going there is a lot of frustration because you have all this energy and all this time and you just want to fill it up with work and be as productive as possible.

                            I can understand this and we were talking about this recently in another post. One of the things you can do is, if you can't be working on work and find you have a lot of energy and un-optimized time, you can try to take it and harness it and come up with creative ideas to market yourself.

                            I bet there are plenty of other entrepreneurs in your area in the same boat. Feeling the same way. They may not do anything to stand out and differentiate themselves. But you can, if you want too.

                            MikeO just brought up a lot of great questions. All of these things can be focused on and worked on.

                            You might find that realizing others go through this same mental situation at times will show that you are not alone. And because you are not alone you might see this as part of the growth process of a business. Then you might want to take it and use it as energy to fuel your creative thought process and push yourself forwards even more.

                            You can do it.
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                            • #29
                              what have you been doing for advertising to drive people to call you?
                              What are you offering as services?
                              What makes you stand out from everybody else that are in this line?
                              The phone needs to ring everyday so, the work comes in.

                              The biggest reason thsat motivates me is my 2 year old daughter.
                              what is going to happen in 18 years from now when she wants schooling or a vehicle or wants to move to puerto vallarta mexico? How can I offord all that?

                              guys like me have to keep working and moving. when i spend 5 dollars i have to find a way to make 15.00. That is my mindset. It has to be. If you have advertised in the past how many calls were you getting daily/weekly?

                              I saw your website are you going to do more with it?
                              Curently my services are
                              Lawn maintenance (mowing, edging, etc)
                              Leaf Removal
                              Insect Spraying
                              Weed Spraying
                              Drip Systems
                              Bush Trimming
                              Chipping/Shredding

                              I need to remove the chipping/shredding though as my chipper is out of commission and I am not sure I can fix it.

                              As far as advertising I have been pouting out fliers, handing out cards. Posting to craigs list and my local paper. So far 100% of my business has come from the local paper. I am not sure what makes me stand out other than reliability and good honest work. Unfortunately I don't get much motivation. I do have 2 kids as well but if one wants a car or a trip to Mexico I would just go buy them a car or give them a credit card. As far as schooling its already paid for. I maintain an education account for my children so they will have no worried when the day comes. Calls would come in spuraticly. I live in a fairly rural area and would get a few calls every few days but have gotten no calls the past couple weeks. I have been reflecting on all this and think there are some organizational problems as well. Mainly with the quotes I am giving people. I was not writing them down then got buisy enough to start forgetting. I would give a quote then a few days later get a call to do the work and forget the price I quoted. I have not had anyone question a bill yet though so I must begetting lucky. I am now writing all this info down though. I also have no set business bank account. I have 2 checking accounts, 4 savings accounts and a brokerage account and when I get paid I just toss the money in what ever account I want to so maybe designating one for only business would be a good idea.
                              White Company

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                              • #30
                                This is a very good point. When a business is getting going there is a lot of frustration because you have all this energy and all this time and you just want to fill it up with work and be as productive as possible.

                                I can understand this and we were talking about this recently in another post. One of the things you can do is, if you can't be working on work and find you have a lot of energy and un-optimized time, you can try to take it and harness it and come up with creative ideas to market yourself.

                                I bet there are plenty of other entrepreneurs in your area in the same boat. Feeling the same way. They may not do anything to stand out and differentiate themselves. But you can, if you want too.

                                MikeO just brought up a lot of great questions. All of these things can be focused on and worked on.

                                You might find that realizing others go through this same mental situation at times will show that you are not alone. And because you are not alone you might see this as part of the growth process of a business. Then you might want to take it and use it as energy to fuel your creative thought process and push yourself forwards even more.

                                You can do it.
                                That may be possible Steve. I have never gone through this though. I have simply had an idea, acted on it and made money. This is the first time I can honestly say I had to work towards a business venture.
                                White Company

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