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  • #46
    What are you talking about? Postcards are not to small, in my free kit, one of the examples was a regular post card.

    I think you are confused, it says it has to be a minimum of .007" thick, which is only 3 sheets of paper thick. Then it can be any greater than .25"

    It only has to be at least .25" thick IF it does exceed 10.5" in length or .6.125" in height.

    So yes, if you were sending envelopes they would have to be atleast .25"
    And out of curiosity, how did you get your envelopes to be .25" thick? Did you stuff them that full of material, or did you buy bigger envelopes.

    Also, did you print all the required stuff on the front of it with your printer, or did you order envelopes? I guess it wouldn't be to hard to draw something up in photoshop and print a couple hundred envelopes, I did find a website that I can buy them from though.


    Lawnboy, you design and print your material, in the lower right hand side from what I understand you have to put the box for the stamp, your return address and the words "local postal customer" this is what I understood from my free kit, but chaz would know since he has actually done this before.


    BTW ignore the .007" thickness, that is if it is considered a parcel, and I assume you can't ship parcels with every door direct?
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    • #47
      I talked to my local post office, they said I can use #10 envelopes with every door direct mailing.

      She said that to just follow the same steps as I would as if I was sending a flat, she said just pick the route, print and fill out the information needed, and print the information on the front of the envelopes that is required.
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      • #48
        Alright, enlighten me. Because now I'm curious how it works.

        Did you find a place to print your ad's? Then after printing them and getting them, you took them to the post office and they did the rest? What exactly did you have to do? I plan to send out like 10,000 for next year, and need to start planning now. By getting those calls, I'm not shocked at all. I was reading an article yesterday and they say mailing ad's to houses is still the #1 method of advertising. But 4 calls in 3 hours, thats insane!
        I actually printed the required stuff for the post office on envelopes printed letters then put my business card in it sealed them and after 1300 took them to post office after i chose which routes i wanted and they did the rest.

        with 10,000 I would highly recommend you get them printed, it would be more cost efficient probably with such a high number.

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        • #49
          I talked to my local post office, they said I can use #10 envelopes with every door direct mailing.

          She said that to just follow the same steps as I would as if I was sending a flat, she said just pick the route, print and fill out the information needed, and print the information on the front of the envelopes that is required.
          Ok, look I asked my local post office if number 10 was good, they said yes, they called around to other post masters they all said yes, then i guess they called the head honcho who was out of town for a week so after i had printed them she said no. #10 envelopes will not work. she said that they do not meet the requirements for EDDM. However, since they had already told me yes they said that they would send what I have printed.

          If you just put 1 paper inside an envelope and close it, and lay it flat on the table it will poof to be about .25" I didn't bother trying to argue this because there was no need since they would allow what I had anyway.

          The #10 envelopes don't meet the Length and Width requirements. It has to be like 11.5" Long OR 6.5" Tall OR .25" thick (I don't have the packet in front of me) So yes, if you turn the envelope vertical It will be more than 6.5" tall, however, there is a statement somewhere on one of the pages that says that the longest side is the length and the shortest side is the height (or something to that extent). Like I said I don have the packet in front of me so I cannot tell you what page it's on.

          BUT If your Post office will accept the #10 envelopes, that's on them if someone else tells them that they can't do that, so go for it!

          Also so far I have received 6 or 7 calls total from this advertising. gave two estimates today, one couldn't afford (these people were like 85+ years old)

          Got a new lawn that is priced at $135 a cut, Yeah, its big.

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          • #50
            http://www.everydoordirectmail.com/Pricing

            I'd love to do 10k. that includes postage. $2,700 - $2,900

            I received 7 calls within the first 24 hours of mailing these out. Could you imagine getting 50 calls?

            50 calls at a .5% response rate


            even cheaper 10k post cards at just over 7 cents a piece

            http://www.40offset.com/products/postcards
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            • #51
              I get it now, it all makes sense. Thanks for the help! It seems as if no one can figure it out, and every postal worker says something different. The response time from your mailing is pretty damn quick!

              I think I want to try and do 10,000 early next year, all on postcards. My business this year has picked up really quick, I didn't plan on it doing this well. So I have some big plans for next year, I figure 10,000 will give me a good start.

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              • #52
                Ok, look I asked my local post office if number 10 was good, they said yes, they called around to other post masters they all said yes, then i guess they called the head honcho who was out of town for a week so after i had printed them she said no. #10 envelopes will not work. she said that they do not meet the requirements for EDDM. However, since they had already told me yes they said that they would send what I have printed.

                If you just put 1 paper inside an envelope and close it, and lay it flat on the table it will poof to be about .25" I didn't bother trying to argue this because there was no need since they would allow what I had anyway.

                The #10 envelopes don't meet the Length and Width requirements. It has to be like 11.5" Long OR 6.5" Tall OR .25" thick (I don't have the packet in front of me) So yes, if you turn the envelope vertical It will be more than 6.5" tall, however, there is a statement somewhere on one of the pages that says that the longest side is the length and the shortest side is the height (or something to that extent). Like I said I don have the packet in front of me so I cannot tell you what page it's on.

                BUT If your Post office will accept the #10 envelopes, that's on them if someone else tells them that they can't do that, so go for it!

                Also so far I have received 6 or 7 calls total from this advertising. gave two estimates today, one couldn't afford (these people were like 85+ years old)

                Got a new lawn that is priced at $135 a cut, Yeah, its big.
                She said to me she was pretty sure, but before I went crazy she was going to double check, she said she would call someone, I forget who and get back to me. She called me back and said yes they are okay, they just are not considered a flat, they are considered a parcel, and can still be used. I am going to give the post office a call that I am going to be mailing out of and see what they say.

                If worst comes to worse, I can get #12 envelopes which are big enough!


                On a second note, the whole packet says about "flats" but there is a really small section that talks about parcels, which are anything .007" thicken min and 3" min size, and the way it seems they can be shipped using every door direct, I mean why else would they even mention it on the packet then?
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                • #53
                  I get it now, it all makes sense. Thanks for the help! It seems as if no one can figure it out, and every postal worker says something different. The response time from your mailing is pretty damn quick!

                  I think I want to try and do 10,000 early next year, all on postcards. My business this year has picked up really quick, I didn't plan on it doing this well. So I have some big plans for next year, I figure 10,000 will give me a good start.
                  I am only part time, so I think I am going to do about 500, if I get 1 or 2 from that I would be happy, and then maybe i'll target another neighborhood, or follow up that neighborhood with some postcards or something.

                  I only want about 10-12 mowing clients for now, I would like to have friday evenings off and sundays for family time. If I grow more then I will defiantly hire someone if i can't handle it.

                  Since the postage would only be about $140, maybe i'll send out about 1,000, 500 letters and 500 postcards and compare the results. I would easily be able to tell which item gave me a call based off of where they live.

                  I was just at the courthouse tuesday for my marriage license, I should have went and registered my business!
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                  • #54
                    I'm part time too. I started June 1st with 2 customers. Last night I had 15. I have a helper with me too. Most are biweekly accounts, I have a few weekly. But during my "slower" weeks, I have other projects to do. Its been very busy for me, which is good. I agree 100000000% about fridays!! I try to get everything done by friday so I can drink my face off all weekend. Sometimes I can, sometimes I can't....like today.

                    The way I see it, grow while you can. In 2 months I went from making $80 a month to $1500. my goal for next year is a full time guy cutting. He's already been hired and is 100% for the idea. Awesome worker too. We've already worked out the details.

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                    • #55
                      I'm part time too. I started June 1st with 2 customers. Last night I had 15. I have a helper with me too. Most are biweekly accounts, I have a few weekly. But during my "slower" weeks, I have other projects to do. Its been very busy for me, which is good. I agree 100000000% about fridays!! I try to get everything done by friday so I can drink my face off all weekend. Sometimes I can, sometimes I can't....like today.

                      The way I see it, grow while you can. In 2 months I went from making $80 a month to $1500. my goal for next year is a full time guy cutting. He's already been hired and is 100% for the idea. Awesome worker too. We've already worked out the details.
                      Called two local post offices, they both said I could use #10 envelopes with every door direct.


                      Called the small business support for usps, they told me no I can't, I said what about #12 envelopes which would exceed the 10.5 minimum length, they said no, you can't send envelopes at all with every door direct, so now I am even more confused.

                      They lady from small business support said you can only send postcards, so I guess that's what I will be doing unless I address and stamp a whole bunch of envelopes.

                      BTW I am really really irritated now!
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                      • #56
                        Called two local post offices, they both said I could use #10 envelopes with every door direct.


                        Called the small business support for usps, they told me no I can't, I said what about #12 envelopes which would exceed the 10.5 minimum length, they said no, you can't send envelopes at all with every door direct, so now I am even more confused.

                        They lady from small business support said you can only send postcards, so I guess that's what I will be doing unless I address and stamp a whole bunch of envelopes.

                        BTW I am really really irritated now!
                        Exactly what I mean by its so much easier to buy a ton of stamps. I got an email from this guy today

                        michael.planty@usps.sutherlandglobal.com

                        He said to email him with questions. So everyone curious...feel free to email him!!

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                        • #57
                          What did you ask him and what answer did he give? I am going to send him an email.
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                          • #58
                            He was pretty quick to reply, he said no where in the rules does it say that envelopes can not be sent using direct mail services.


                            He said the best thing to do is get one together that I want to send and take it to the post office that serves the route I need, if they say I can send them, I am supposed to get their name so when I go back to mail all of them, and a different person says no, I can say so and so said I could.
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                            • #59
                              ..... Look, it requires 11.5 inches... not 10.5"... I have uploaded the picture of the size referencing. #12 envelopes aren't long enough either, (I think)

                              I scanned the page and have placed red boxes over the important parts.

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                              • #60
                                ..... Look, it requires 11.5 inches... not 10.5"... I have uploaded the picture of the size referencing. #12 envelopes aren't long enough either, (I think)

                                I scanned the page and have placed red boxes over the important parts.

                                I don't know how old your is, but I think its a little outdated, here is the one I received a week ago. Also I verified with both local post offices and the small business support office for usps that it is 10.5"
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