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    Hey guys. I was wondering what everyone was charging. Your normal hourly rate and your minimum charge for cutting grass. Also what city and state your located in. Were going to start a poll that way we can all compare and help each other out.

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    I'm from Milford, Delaware. My hourly rate is $60 and my min. charge for grass is $45

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    • #3
      Hoss,

      Maybe I could set up a database to help organize this. What services would you like to track and how should it be organized? Should the size of the crew come into factoring or do you just want to know the hourly price and the different services?
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      • #4
        Steve,

        I would like to know the hourly rate and where there located whether it be by city or state. state would probally be easier. also the min. charge for mowing

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          Would you like to see other services? If so, what would be important for you to see?
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          • #6
            yea that would be nice to i guess. I would say whatever services they have. from grass cutting to gutter cleaning any and all would be welcomed. That might help other people by showing them what there is to offer and what there not.

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            • #7
              Hoss,

              I made a page to do this.

              It's basic at the moment but potentially very powerful. Try it out and let me know how it works so far.

              National Average Lawn Care Prices

              This could become very informative and helpful.
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              • #8
                Yea I like that Steve. Now everytime you post on it do you have to exit out to go to a different part? I did lawn mowing and gutter cleaning and leaf clean-up but all i did is click the back button. will it still work that way. cause everytime i was finished it showed the national average for mowing

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                • #9
                  Here is a screen capture of what I got so far with the pricing average.



                  Well I am just getting this started. I wanted to get something very basic to start getting data inputed, so please tell everyone you know to enter the data, also let me know what services I should expand it to and what else I should add.

                  Yea I like that Steve. Now everytime you post on it do you have to exit out to go to a different part?
                  Right now yes. But I will change that. This was just a fast way to do it.

                  I did lawn mowing and gutter cleaning and leaf clean-up but all i did is click the back button. will it still work that way.
                  Yes, I will get that working better too.

                  cause everytime i was finished it showed the national average for mowing
                  That's all I have reporting at the moment but that will expand. I needed to get something up and running.
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                  • #10
                    I don't think this is too good of an idea. I mean my numbers are my numbers because of how i run my company I may charge $115 and hour per crew because they have uniforms, we know my numbers, we pay taxes, we are making an employee hand book, we pay ins., we pay to be in the BBB, we are licensed, We have nice/professional equipment and vehicles. . .the next guy does it for beer money so all he needs is gas money and some extra left over to spend at the bar . . . There are just too many variables
                    Last edited by EasyPro; 01-16-2009, 10:52 PM.
                    DJ Carroll
                    EasyPro Property Services
                    502-525-3279

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                    • #11
                      I don't think this is too good of an idea. I mean my numbers are my numbers because of how i run my company I may charge $115 and hour per crew because they have uniforms, we know my numbers, we pay taxes, we are making an employee hand book, we pay ins., we pay to be in the BBB, we are licensed, We have nice/professional equipment and vehicles. . .the next guy does it for beer money so all he needs is gas money and some extra left over to spend at the bar . . . There are just too many variables
                      That is very true, but if you take your figures and you then average them with a guy doing it for beer money, then it gives the new startup a figure to consider. Otherwise they will most likely just shoot for the absolute lowest price they can come up with.

                      Why not offer them a higher price to shoot for? Then you don't have to worry about them coming in so low they just kill the industry pricing?

                      If they see they can make more money. They will charge more money and ultimately everyone will enjoy a benefit from a reduced pool of new businesses who lowball.

                      What do you think of that?
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                      • #12
                        That is very true, but if you take your figures and you then average them with a guy doing it for beer money, then it gives the new startup a figure to consider. Otherwise they will most likely just shoot for the absolute lowest price they can come up with.

                        Why not offer them a higher price to shoot for? Then you don't have to worry about them coming in so low they just kill the industry pricing?

                        If they see they can make more money. They will charge more money and ultimately everyone will enjoy a benefit from a reduced pool of new businesses who lowball.

                        What do you think of that?
                        Thats worse than a low baller . . .Steve i truely believe that you are like me and hate low ballers . . .

                        that being said a low baller is easily seen from a customers stand point because they offer the absolute insane low price . . .

                        now then, why would i want to give them something that is going to make them competitive when in the end they are still low ballers?

                        Low ballers don't mean just low prices - it means un insured, un licensed, un PROFESSIONAL !!!!
                        DJ Carroll
                        EasyPro Property Services
                        502-525-3279

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                        • #13
                          now then, why would i want to give them something that is going to make them competitive when in the end they are still low ballers?

                          Low ballers don't mean just low prices - it means un insured, un licensed, un PROFESSIONAL !!!!
                          Well here is my view on this. When anyone starts out with anything, they have no idea what they are doing.

                          As we see on the forum, we have many many new business owners trying to figure out what is the going rate for certain basic services they want to offer.

                          When no one tells them or they can't find it, they tend to bid very low. Because they bid low, they can't afford to buy insurance. They probably aren't paying taxes on the money they make. Ultimately there is this class of small business owners who if they just had a little knowledge, would have an ah-ha moment and say OH I need to be charging around $X per hour in order to do this properly.

                          Now when other lawn care business owners are out giving bids, ideally they are no longer competing on price but instead on who seems to please the customer the most, provide the best service etc.

                          If we don't educate ourselves and others, there is no growth.

                          What's your view?
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                          • #14
                            Wow, Tuff crowd in here!
                            Ok, well I see both sides of this argument I suppose.

                            On one hand we have the lowballers, who yes if they are intelligent will reach out to learn & better themselves & eventually become a legitimate business. I have always helped & advised anyone who asked me for help & wanted to do the right thing as some others both in my area & on this forum did for me back when I really needed the guidance. though at the same time most half-assed low ballers don't stay in business long enough to make much a dent in my marketshare as far as I can tell (I could be wrong but business is good so I don' worry about it all that much) There are a good portion of the alchoholic lawn mowing crew sect that would only take such information (as stated above) & use it to charge more, while still not doing anything the right way. So I am not a fan of the idea of just posting my numbers for the world to see & for "Joe's drunken lawn service" to use against me.

                            On the other hand If somebody is seeking help, you should help them. For me I want to know WHO knows my numbers. I am in Florida, my figures will be useless to anyone outside of my area as we are in different markets so they don't need em'. Anyone in my region can reach out for help. If I feel after a short conversation that they are genuine in their desire to run their business properly or get off on the right foot, I offer them all the information & advise I can. From pricing, to policies & precedures, & from where to buy liability insurance to the best friggen trimmer line for the buck.
                            I have recieved help from tons of guys (Jamie-all aspects, Tim-real huntin', ritchiem, Steve, & on & on....) I have also helped a ton of guys out (Little's, Phil, Justin, Barry etc....)
                            But Steve, I am not filling out a "I charge $___x____ for mowing ____sq ft__
                            & $___Y___ for trimming ______ tree" chart man. Sorry bud , I'm not with ya on this one. Somethings with great intentions can be business suicide.

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                            • #15
                              Well here is my view on this. When anyone starts out with anything, they have no idea what they are doing.

                              As we see on the forum, we have many many new business owners trying to figure out what is the going rate for certain basic services they want to offer.

                              When no one tells them or they can't find it, they tend to bid very low. Because they bid low, they can't afford to buy insurance. They probably aren't paying taxes on the money they make. Ultimately there is this class of small business owners who if they just had a little knowledge, would have an ah-ha moment and say OH I need to be charging around $X per hour in order to do this properly.

                              Now when other lawn care business owners are out giving bids, ideally they are no longer competing on price but instead on who seems to please the customer the most, provide the best service etc.

                              If we don't educate ourselves and others, there is no growth.

                              What's your view?
                              I say don't give a man a fish so he can eat, give him a fishing pole so he can feed himself . .. Does that make sense?

                              When some one ask me how much to charge i tell them as much as they can get!

                              then I ask them what thier cost are . . . don't tell a low baller what price to charge tell him how to figure it out

                              In school they didn't teach us that two plus two was 4 they taught us that you take a number plus a number and it equals the sum of the numbers.

                              Teach them how to price not just tell them what is the "going rate"
                              the "going rate" is the going out of business rate
                              DJ Carroll
                              EasyPro Property Services
                              502-525-3279

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