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CHEESE2009
05-19-2009, 03:59 PM
My snow removal is crap, well it's good but not BIG.

not BIG as in I use 1000 shovels & a couple of snow blowers & can't make decent money.

I would like to rent or make monthly payments on a tractor.

My questions for everyone are;

How did you get your first tractor?

Once bought, how long did it take you to profit after such a big purchase?

Tell me your story.


I used to maintenance & clean up a bunch of tractors;
Newholland & Mccormick etc, & I'm fascinated by them.

I emailed a guy who owns a small tractor & is selling it for peanuts, It's an old piece of crap but runs well he said. There was a problem but it was fixed.

I was wondering if I should bother to check it out, $4000.00 seems too good to be true? Oh and it doesn't come with the snow blower attachment.

It scares me to see so many tractor prices above $100,000.00, is this what I have to achieve?

How can I start, should I rent one? Is it even possible?

turfmaster
05-19-2009, 06:39 PM
You ever consider a atv with a plow?

CHEESE2009
05-19-2009, 07:09 PM
I own two ATV's, though I don't think it's legal to drive around the city with them doing snow removal.

I also don't know how to use a plow for snow removal, especially when the snow is high. I wouldn't be able to push it out of the driveway, & I'd only be able to leave it on the street ???

I need a blower.. hmmm

CHEESE2009
05-19-2009, 08:19 PM
I got an email from another guy, who wants to sell a bobcat for $2999.00!!
It looks good, 2005 model.

The thing I need to know is, are Bobcats street legal. It'd be pointless if I'd have to stash it in the trailer. Is it possible to put signals and mirrors to make it legal blah blah????

I want this Bobcat..

Even though its probably going to be as big as my regular snow blower, it's just kick arse!

<a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/mad_insane/?action=view&current=bobcat2999.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/mad_insane/bobcat2999.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

tomustang
05-19-2009, 08:45 PM
I own two ATV's, though I don't think it's legal to drive around the city with them doing snow removal.

I also don't know how to use a plow for snow removal, especially when the snow is high. I wouldn't be able to push it out of the driveway, & I'd only be able to leave it on the street ???

I need a blower.. hmmm

You can use a plow with both push and drag, When it snows down here (yeah it does snow:D) I see more people drive in and drag out the snow with the plow, once it's out in the street you just plow it onto the yard, but not near the mail box ;)

picframer
05-19-2009, 09:17 PM
I got an email from another guy, who wants to sell a bobcat for $2999.00!!
It looks good, 2005 model.

The thing I need to know is, are Bobcats street legal. It'd be pointless if I'd have to stash it in the trailer. Is it possible to put signals and mirrors to make it legal blah blah????

I want this Bobcat..

Even though its probably going to be as big as my regular snow blower, it's just kick arse!

<a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/mad_insane/?action=view&current=bobcat2999.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/mad_insane/bobcat2999.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

IMHO if he is selling that for 2999. there is something wrong with is, check for liens etc. a 2005 is worth about 9000.+++

Yes they are street legal, I personally do not like them, desperate dangerous to drive.

As for tractors, what are you looking at that is 100,000??? an eight wheel 200 HO John Deere doesn't even cost that much.

SuperiorPower
05-19-2009, 09:37 PM
IMHO if he is selling that for 2999. there is something wrong with is, check for liens etc. a 2005 is worth about 9000.+++

I concur. Or its a scam. I saw an add on craigslist some time ago for a a nice kubota for like $5000. I knew this was either a scam or a steal. It was a scam. He would never tell me where the tractor was located. Like said, this deal could very well be a scam.

Remember, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.......

CHEESE2009
05-19-2009, 10:24 PM
I'm looking for a tractor which a blower can attach too.

I need a good price & it's really hard to find one. Dealers or sites obviously don't state their prices on websites, & I'm not interested to call because in all honesty I have no idea what to get. There are so many models & whatever.

I was on a silly site where it had prices up to 100,000$, but I hear there as cheap as $25,000 new

CHEESE2009
05-19-2009, 10:27 PM
I saw an add on craigslist some time ago for a a nice kubota for like $5000.

I think I saw that one too, it looks great but it doesn't have a closed cab?

SuperiorPower
05-19-2009, 10:40 PM
I think I saw that one too, it looks great but it doesn't have a closed cab?

Don't recall about the cab but it definitely was a scam.:mad: When I asked him some questions and told him I was a law enforcement officer, he never answered my emails anymore.. Wonder why?:confused: Do you think he was skiddish?:D :p

CHEESE2009
05-19-2009, 11:00 PM
LOL that is hilarious!

Guy: Hey cop, why don't you go eat another doughnut!

Cop: These are government doughnuts.

SuperiorPower
05-19-2009, 11:52 PM
LOL that is hilarious!

Guy: Hey cop, why don't you go eat another doughnut!

Cop: These are government doughnuts.

You know, despite all the stigma, most of the officers I know, me included, don;t drink coffee or eat donuts...... But I still like the bumper sticker that says "ad cop, no donut"!!!

CHEESE2009
05-20-2009, 12:18 AM
I wish I could ship you a shirt, I'm sure you've seen it,

"Lawn Enforcement Officer"


:P

I used to want to be a policeman, I'd be the stereotypical one though, the one that ruins it for all the other hardworking and decent cops. I'd be parked all day at Burger King with a stash of milkshakes, turning on my sirens just to beat a traffic light... :(

That's why you are several steps ahead of me my man! & I'm glad to know ya!

SuperiorPower
05-20-2009, 12:32 AM
Scott, You kill me!!!

BTW, it takes a bit of getting used to living the LE life. People look at you different. And you like will NEVER be the same..... You never look at people knocking on your door the same. It may be someone you arrested last week.... Who is pulling into my driveway? Who is calling my house phone? Who is that at the end of the aisle in Walmart? Who is standing next to my car in the parking lot? Did they see me at the grocery store with my significant other?

You are not missing anything. Trust me!!

jsthomas06
05-20-2009, 12:41 AM
I got an email from another guy, who wants to sell a bobcat for $2999.00!!
It looks good, 2005 model.



$2999.00?? That sounds to good to be true...........does that thing have an engine???
where in canada are you located, I Know there is an exchange rate and travel time, but I would drive there and buy it for that much!!

CHEESE2009
05-20-2009, 12:48 AM
ya i couldn't do it lol.

I hope your company rises up & becomes your full time career. You have great people skills from what I know, & being an officer at times your restricted to show yourself for who you are ... also from what I see in most officers.

being a police officer is like being a superhero with a face, it's scary to imagine someone haunting you or your family for putting them away. :eek:

SuperiorPower
05-20-2009, 01:54 AM
Yep. I have had a guy look at me and then look at his girlfriend whom he had tried to kill and say "Today would be a good day to go to jail. Today would be a good day to die."

I knew in the past (many years prior) he had chased his sister down the road. As he was running and she was running away from him he had 3 cinder blocks on each arm, chucking them at her (the sister). He was not a friendly customer.... He plead to 7 years on my case....

picframer
05-20-2009, 05:22 AM
I really don't know about snow clearing and what I mean by that is, is it worth it. I have all the gear and have plowed for close to 20 years, as extra cash when the kids were small as money was very tight, it's fairly good money and perhaps I am starting to feel my age but on a tractor it's long cold work.

For a tractor get something in the 2000 series range if John Deere, a 2305 or a 2320 would be ideal as you can also add a deck, loader and just about any attachment they have.

These tractors do not drop much in price when used, I recently traded one of our 2305 units for a 2720, had close to 400 hours, only lost 4,000 over 2 1/2 years, that tractor during the summer makes that a week.

I'm not that familiar with Kubota, there are not many around here, JD has the market, Massey and Case make nice tractors also and are quite a bit cheaper and it is rare to hear of anyone that has had a problem, I have five at the moment and they work long and hard, never have an issue, even running them hard they never burn more than $1.20 an hour in diesel.

Good Luck
Andy

CHEESE2009
05-20-2009, 03:18 PM
Case tractors are awesome. I think I'll aim towards one of their tractors. I'm sure I will probably run into less problems with a JD because we have a lot of dealers of their products and mechanics just for them. I'll have to call someone and ask...

Thanks for all your help!

tomustang
05-20-2009, 03:32 PM
I'm not that familiar with Kubota, there are not many around here

They are to 'die' for around my parts, cheaper but very durable. My uncle bought one used for 1 job, and the job paid for the kubuta

CHEESE2009
05-20-2009, 04:06 PM
I'll see if I can rent one for the winter, but I'm not sure if I'll profit more then renting one. It's a tough call.


The guy emailed me back about the Bobcat. It seems fishy.

Hi Scott,

Yes it's street legal . I'm in Manitoba but the add was listed nation wide on craigslist, so it appeared in local searches too. I am an absolute beginner at these things, so i made a mistake. Since it was my fault,i accept to pay the shipping fees. I hope this is ok with you and please accept my sincere apologizes.
I was fired from my job because the financial crises that affected almost everyone including the company I worked at. I'm in a hurry to find a buyer because I'm in debts with my bank, so now you can see the reason why I'm selling it for $ 2990 . The transaction will be closed through the Vehicle Purchase Protection Program offered by eBay Inc because eBay provides up to $20,000 protection. They will handle all the paperwork making sure that everything will be ok.
Here is how the program works:

- I will forward the details of our transaction to eBay.
- eBay will process the paperwork and will email you
- if everything is OK, I will ship the bobcat to your location with DAS ( Dependable Auto Shippers ).
- after you receive ,inspect and test drive it if you accept you will confirm to eBay. If you do not like it for any reason eBay will then make the necessary arrangement so that the transport company can pick it up in 48 hours

So if you want to test and see it all you have to do now is to email me a delivery address (with no further obligation to buy it or fees).

As soon as you email me back I will initiate the transaction through eBay.


what do you guys think???

tomustang
05-20-2009, 04:34 PM
Ah.. the DAS scam :cool:

CHEESE2009
05-20-2009, 06:20 PM
it's a smart email, but stupid.

Why wouldn't he just use it to make some money lol... I don't get it.

He could rent it to companies in the area.

Anyway, I don't spend more then $100.00 online, or any money when it comes to vehicles or whatever.

I passed by a Bobcat on my street, they look awesome... it's a shame! lol

picframer
05-20-2009, 10:01 PM
FRAUD,, RUN!!!

I have seen this exact same email when I asked about a tractor that was for sale and a Cargo trailer.

Steve
05-20-2009, 10:09 PM
You should consider notifying ebay too.

justin_time
05-20-2009, 10:42 PM
Ugh, lawn care season just started and your thinking snow ?????????????

My head is too cold for that right now hahahah

mharbert
03-08-2010, 11:51 PM
This last winter we were hit with a ton of snow and there wasn't a week that it didn't snow on Monday morning.. Anyway I did 14 places within a mile of my house. I was able to complete them using my John Deere 318 and single stage snow thrower (model 49) only taking me 1 hour and 20 minutes for all accounts.. I don't know of a better unit for me other than adding a cab/heater/strobe light and extra headlights.. 4 passes up and back on the driveways, run down the side walk, and jump off to using my shovel on stair steps/by the garage doors (I used the tractor up to 6 inches away from structures) My tractor is a 1985, and its valued at less than $2000.

A bobcat would be great so that you could use it for landscaping jobs.. I would think buying a dump trailer and a bobcat you would be able to use it all year round, and I don't see a problem loading and unloading.. Also with a slow moving sign, I know I can drive it down the street here in Iowa (US).

ProCut TM
03-09-2010, 12:07 AM
since this old post was dug up I'll join in.
I too have tractor envy.
Most of the small diesel John Deere tractors are made by Yanmar in Japan and painted JD green. Nothing runs like a Yan Deere
Kubota is the #1 selling industrial small diesel engine and Yanmar is #2 (I was a Yanmar salesman for 3 years).