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Lukacs Property Maintenance
01-28-2009, 10:01 AM
Hey Steve,

I don't know if aproaching your local property manager at the real estate office has been sugested to anyone. The property manager is the person who is in cherge of all the rental propertys, like apartments and townhouses. I got work from here because the previous lco was doing a bad job and i pointed it out. So they asked if i wanted to the job. I said that i was only a one person crew so please could they ease my into the jobs. They said that wouldn't be a problem because they didn't want to give too many jobs at once.
I have been working with them ever since.Being honest with people really shows your respect for them. In turn you usually get it back.

Mike

Steve
01-28-2009, 12:14 PM
Oh that is very interesting! Can you tell us how you first went about finding who to get in touch with? Also how did you go about approaching them?

Any advice on that?

Lukacs Property Maintenance
01-29-2009, 12:40 PM
Good question.

When i first moved to Merritt i needed a place to live. I was looking in the local newspaper and saw an add for places for rent by one realestate company. I phoned and talked to the property manager. I didn't end up getting a place from them but it aventually got out to them that i ran a lcb. Further on down the road however, i adventually ended up renting from the property manager. I told her that the lcc that she had did a bad job. So she thought she would give me a try. I've been doing work for them ever since.



Mike

c4trash
01-31-2009, 03:27 PM
Good question.

When i first moved to Merritt i needed a place to live. I was looking in the local newspaper and saw an add for places for rent by one realestate company. I phoned and talked to the property manager. I didn't end up getting a place from them but it aventually got out to them that i ran a lcb. Further on down the road however, i adventually ended up renting from the property manager. I told her that the lcc that she had did a bad job. So she thought she would give me a try. I've been doing work for them ever since.



Mike
Hi Mike
I am in a similar business to you (See my discussion in Introduce Yourself)
I do a similar thing to you but want I dont believe in doing is bad mouthing others it can get up someones nose especially if the contractor in question is related to the Property Manager giving out the work
In these days of modern technology what I do use my cellphone and take some pics of the property
Also because the property is for rent I may also have a quick look around including in windows and out buildings and do a mental quote on the job
This gives you an advantage when you do go to the Agent you can give them a rough estimate of the price
If I get the job having already taken pictures in advance I also take pics when finished that way once you have a good relationship with your property managers you can show them the pics to verify completion when you give them the invoice
What makes this good is you dont have to wait for them to do a physical inspection
Another policy I have is while out I note down addresses of propertys which maybe up for rental by agents within the same company and if they look in need of a make over ask my contact to refer me to that agent
Its also a good move to keep a list of the various propertys you do that way you almost act as the agents spy so if you see the current tenant is neglecting their duties about keeping it tidy you can tip off the agent.
Its also a good idea to ask the agent when you have done the job if they or the new tenant is responsible for ongoing maintainence in which case there is another opportunity to pick up a new job
Finally dont be to fussy about what jobs you accept once you start working for an agent they may ask you to do little jobs ie remove some bags of rubbish when passing a place or cleaning up some real disgusting jobs
Just remember that if you wont do it someone else will
For the smaller jobs like rubbish bags etc I charge a standard fixed fee of $US 10

Lukacs Property Maintenance
02-03-2009, 12:54 PM
Wow thats great stuff.

I've also kept pictures of propertys.

Steve
02-03-2009, 07:34 PM
In these days of modern technology what I do use my cellphone and take some pics of the property
Also because the property is for rent I may also have a quick look around including in windows and out buildings and do a mental quote on the job
This gives you an advantage when you do go to the Agent you can give them a rough estimate of the price

You got me thinking, could you take pictures of a property and then email them to the realtor and say something in the email to the effect of they could sell the property a lot faster if it was kept up. Then maybe give them a price to clean it up in the email or tell them to call you for an estimate?

What's your thoughts on something like that?

VPS Lawn Care
02-03-2009, 10:37 PM
Good stuff here!

Just a note for those of you that dont do work for rental agent's, i have several, keep in mind that they usally need it done the same day they call, most of the time it is because they are going to show the property, and this can throw a wrench in your schedule alot of the times, and you usally maintain the property when empty, ( it does lead to a new client for you from the renter alot of the time if you follow up with them) this type off work adds up though, it accounted for an average of about $500 to $700 additional income per month last season for me. This year estimates much higher. They pay like clock work most of the time. Hope this helps

c4trash
02-04-2009, 01:35 AM
You got me thinking, could you take pictures of a property and then email them to the realtor and say something in the email to the effect of they could sell the property a lot faster if it was kept up. Then maybe give them a price to clean it up in the email or tell them to call you for an estimate?

What's your thoughts on something like that?
Personally I wouldn't make such a comment in an email I would prefer to use the opportunity to get an interview
Remember not all the jobs are places being sold some are for rent or lease

You don't want an agent thinking you are being critical that may put them off you
Its like a comment I made elsewhere that you don't bad mouth another contractor even if they have done a poor job

Steve
02-04-2009, 06:14 AM
Just a note for those of you that dont do work for rental agent's, i have several, keep in mind that they usally need it done the same day they call, most of the time it is because they are going to show the property,

Do you advise charging more if they want work done on the same day? If so, how much more?



Personally I wouldn't make such a comment in an email I would prefer to use the opportunity to get an interview
Remember not all the jobs are places being sold some are for rent or lease

You don't want an agent thinking you are being critical that may put them off you
Its like a comment I made elsewhere that you don't bad mouth another contractor even if they have done a poor job

Ok thank you. Very good point.

This gives you an advantage when you do go to the Agent you can give them a rough estimate of the price

When you meet with the agent, do you suggest that you show the pictures then? Should you point out what services they need? Or is the picture mainly for you to get an idea of what you need to do when creating a bid?

VPS Lawn Care
02-04-2009, 10:23 AM
Do you advise charging more if they want work done on the same day? If so, how much more?


No, I dont. One of the reasons they stick with you is not the price, its not the top priority for the agent, the owner pays for it, it is response time, they get paid when it is rented or sold, so if they have some one to see the property they need you to get it looking its best asap for them, this is why they use you, your quick response time. when you give your price it is a little higher then the standard residential cust to make it worth the inconvinance in sceduleing

Little's
02-04-2009, 09:26 PM
Hey everyone. Its been a few weeks since I have been on here, my computer has been down and we have had 70 degree weather for the last month, so I have been swamped with work.

I have been doing work for a couple Property Man. Co's. for a couple years. One of them manages 1500 properties and they cover me with work. I average $1500 to $2000 per month from them (some months it's what keeps me afloat).

One thing I have found is that you dont have to bring it to their attention that one of their properties is in bad shape, if they are competent at all, they are already aware. But what happens is that they get so busy that they dont have time to call a vendor and get the work set up, then call the owners to get approval, etc.

So I always just save them a step and mention that "I could get it cleaned up for you today, or tomorrow...Just get the approval and I will get it done."

There's usually no need to take pictures or tell them that it looks bad...they already know.

Also while I am working on properties for them, I will keep my eye out for anything else that could be done. For instance I was doing a yard clean-up for a turnover and noticed a downed Oak tree on the back property. I called the maintenance Manager and told him I could remove it for $100. He said sure go ahead. I took me about 2 hours and I had it all cut up and got 1/2 cord out of it. Put the wood on craigslist and had it sold the next day for $150.

Sometimes I notice dangerous limbs hanging, etc. Anything that could be a liability is an easy job to get.

Steve
02-05-2009, 05:08 AM
So I always just save them a step and mention that "I could get it cleaned up for you today, or tomorrow...Just get the approval and I will get it done."

Hi Brandon,

This assumes you already have a working relationship with the property manager right?

What do you advise if you don't have a working relationship with them and you want one?

Little's
02-05-2009, 11:40 PM
Hi Steve. Not necessarily only if you are already established with them. The way I got in with them was by driving by one of their properties and noticing it in bad shape. I called their number and asked for the maintenance manager. I talked to her and said "I was driving by your property at ....and I can get it whipped into shape for you today for $xx". She said bring me your lic. and ins. and get started. That was it.
It has been a great business relationship ever since.

c4trash
02-08-2009, 07:12 PM
Hi Steve. Not necessarily only if you are already established with them. The way I got in with them was by driving by one of their properties and noticing it in bad shape. I called their number and asked for the maintenance manager. I talked to her and said "I was driving by your property at ....and I can get it whipped into shape for you today for $xx". She said bring me your lic. and ins. and get started. That was it.
It has been a great business relationship ever since.
Interesting discussion this one with lots of view points
My view is similiar to this
When I look at a property needing cleaning up for agents / property managers I always check if its being sold or rented
Over here they dont have property maintaince managers
On needs to be careful about pricing ( I did some research on property managers/ real estate web sites and discovered looking at their management contracts / sales agreements some only have a fixed percentage to play with dollar wise over that the need the owners approval) I keep copies of these on my records that way when pricing a job I know I can go to $XXX before it needs to be passed on upwards to owner
I also ask if they want the Basic or Gold service http://www.gopherforum.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
This varies between a Weed Eat and Cut or a Full Cleanup
I also keep my eyes open for recyclables(Scrap Metal) or stuff that can be on sold via our TRADEME site or just given away to the local op shop
I have been known on some big jobs to be disposing of these items while work is in progress
Maybe Im an oppurtunist because while I make extra $s from these I dont pass these savings to the client unless they are as shrewed as I am in those cases we may haggle on price or I just tell them the lot will go to the dump