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S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-05-2007, 07:04 PM
I've been looking at ATVs and the implements you can get for them. I'm amazed at the variety of attachments out there and the capabilities of the machines.

Quite a few of the implements are aimed at our profession which got me to thinking about utilizing these things. Before I do that, I'd would like to hear from anybody that is currently employing an ATV or two in their business.

What are you using them for? What are the pros and cons? Good experiences or bad?

Steve
12-05-2007, 07:08 PM
You know, the first thing I thought of was could you get an ATV that could be business functional as well as be used for fun? Or does that not interest you at all when considering this?

S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-05-2007, 07:20 PM
I have every intention of using one for recreation. Its just that the primary use would be for business if I can truly put one to work to justify buying one.

I was thinking ahead to some extent as well. In southeast Minn. there is the Root River Bicycle Trail system which passes right in front of my in-law's house. The maintenance is done by bid. I was thinking towing an offset finish mower behind an ATV would be the best way to do it. Since I'll be moving out there in about 4 yrs time, why not include that into an ongoing 5 yr business plan.

Otherwise I'm wondering about rototilling, snow removal, and other jobs the ATV can do where larger machinery is a liability.

Steve
12-05-2007, 07:30 PM
Those are some very good ideas!

How about something like this?

http://www.biggameproshop.com/atv_plotmower.htm

http://www.biggameproshop.com/atv_pl9.jpg

Or like this?

http://www.drpower.com/EmailProdImages/CAT1205-250.jpg

http://www.drpower.com/prdSell....kType=3 (http://www.drpower.com/prdSell.aspx?p2Name=FieldMeadow&p1Name=TractorAttachments&Name=TowBehindSpreader&BC=0%3aHome%7c1%3aCatalog%7c2%3aFieldMeadow%7c3%3a TractorAttachments&LinkType=3)

Steve
12-05-2007, 07:32 PM
Or use it for plowing and salting.

Steve
12-05-2007, 07:37 PM
Here is a de-thatcher.

http://www.amazing-atv-machinery.com/images/adjustaflex/harrow-BOTH-mode.jpg

http://www.amazing-atv-machinery.com/adjustaflex-products.html

and more

http://www.iowafarmequipment.com/work_atv_land.jpg

http://www.iowafarmequipment.com/work_garden.html

pnplawn
12-05-2007, 07:39 PM
I do have my rover I bought last summer I use. Mulching and clean ups.


http://www.pnplawncare.com/rover2.JPG

S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-05-2007, 07:41 PM
You must be reading my mind. There is even 23 hp snowblower out there for ATVs. Here is a link...

http://www.jimsrepairjimstractors.com/atv-snowblower.htm

Steve
12-05-2007, 07:44 PM
Would that work well for you?

Here is a video of it too!

http://www.jimsrepairjimstractors.com/atv-blower.asf

S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-05-2007, 07:51 PM
I think it would work well for me as long as I limit snow clearing to residential driveways. I've been told more than once by customers they are tired of lawns rolled and dug up by plows and would welcome having the driveway done via snowblower.

Seems to me that the combination of the ATV and that 23 hp rig is lots cheaper than a truck and plow, yet lots faster than a typical walk behind snowblower.

The whole snow removal idea is what I was looking into that brought ATVs into the picture.

pnplawn
12-05-2007, 07:56 PM
only problem I see is ( truck has a cab and windows and HEAT ) other then that go for it.

S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-05-2007, 08:02 PM
I thought about that aspect too, but I think I have the answer for that. Gerbings heated motorcycle clothing. Shouldn't be that hard to wire in a power supply and plug myself in. Just have to make sure the electrical system can sustain it.

Here's a link to Gerbings: http://www.gerbing.com/

Steve
12-05-2007, 08:34 PM
Now, would it be possible to take a snowblower and then alter it to fit in front of your atv so you didn't have to buy a specialized snow blower?

Would you have any interest in that?

Steve
12-05-2007, 08:36 PM
Could you also use something like this enclosure?

http://www.overstock.com/Sports-....ct.html (http://www.overstock.com/Sports-Toys/Universal-ATV-Cab-Enclosure/2087481/product.html)

S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-05-2007, 08:52 PM
I have a good friend that is a mechanical genius. Designs things like design jet engine disassembly tools. Last winter he dissected his own snowblower in an effort to come up with something that can be attached to an ATV. He decided it was doable, but it involved way too much custom work to be worthwhile as a one off deal. The hardest, $$$, part was the wide enough auger & front section.

Thought it best to build one from scratch, and even that was not cheap, but would be better over the long haul.

Steve
12-05-2007, 09:34 PM
Are there any snow blower models you could pick in the area that would be as wide as an atv or no?

S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-05-2007, 09:46 PM
I did a cursory search, but didn't find anything that caught my eye.

Steve
12-05-2007, 09:48 PM
Do you have an idea of how wide it would have to be in order to work? I will help you look as well.

S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-06-2007, 07:58 AM
From what I've been able to gather, 44 inches seems to be about the right width. That way you clear enough that the ATV has a clear path to follow. But the wider you get, the more power you need, hence that 23 hp unit posted earlier.

At this juncture, building one is something I don't have the time or space for.

But I would still like to hear from everybody what their experiences are with using an ATV in their business.

Steve
12-06-2007, 07:02 PM
Have you checked Ebay too? I found this one



44" SNOW BLOWER ATTACHMENT for TRACTOR Nice Condition

Buy it now $375.

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/44-SNOW-BLOWER-ATTACHMENT-for-TRACTOR-Nice-Condition_W0QQitemZ200181447574QQihZ010QQcatego

ryZ42230QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/44-SNOW....hosting</a>

realhuntin
12-09-2007, 10:42 AM
My 2 cents worth.

We have 2 a small 125 Honda (old fourtrax) and a Foreman 400. I only use the 125 for pulling the aerator. The 400 we use as snow plow for side walks, plowing/discing gardens, makeing food plots for the deer, seeding new yards and pulling the straw blower.

I'm sure we will find more uses for these things as time goes on.

S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-09-2007, 12:27 PM
How often do you utilize the ATVs, meaning seasonal, weekly, and so on? *Any issues with power while plowing? *What would you replace them with?

I've been talking with folks I know that have ATVs and the general consensus is that a mid-range model, 450 to 550 cc engine, has enough popcorn to do what I want, especially newer models with advancements in engine output and transmissions.

To that end I've zeroed in on a Suzuki 450 KingQuad. *Has a low range trans, torque converter stepless transmission, and can pull quite a bit of weight. *I take that to mean it can push just about as much. *Currently waiting on a couple of dealers to reply on prices on leftover '06 and '07s.

realhuntin
12-09-2007, 12:49 PM
Well just what I know is that the foreman has performed flawlessly for some time now and my Cus has the 05' 400 or 450 king quad and my Bro has the 03' Kodiac 400 and a friend has the 06' artic cat 450 or 500 and we were clearing brush and 10' high horse weed with chains for a food plott and Cus's KIng was pulled in blew all the drivetrain out of it and the artic cat blew the 4x4 unit. Bro's Yamaha is probly best of all list including his dads sportsman 500. I am looking for the Rubicon from Honda or a Kodiac. when we took cuz's king to the shop the manager said they had worked on more than he wanted and left it at that. the cat was under warranty so no big deal i was told they hadnt had much trouble from them, but who knows i wasnt there like the i was with the king, because im the one who took it to the shop. just a little info for ya.

S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-10-2007, 03:31 PM
When you said the mgr. worked on the KingQuad more than he wanted, did you mean just that one you brought in or the KingQuads in general?

I've just got done clearing snow for the third time in a week and its getting real old....At the very least I want to get an ATV with a plow, the snowblower while I'm in MN next month since none of the dealers out this way seem interested in pricing one for me.

realhuntin
12-10-2007, 11:43 PM
Quote[/b] (S.P.Martin Lawn Care @ Dec. 10 2007,4:31)]When you said the mgr. worked on the KingQuad more than he wanted, did you mean just that one you brought in or the KingQuads in general?

I've just got done clearing snow for the third time in a week and its getting real old....At the very least I want to get an ATV with a plow, the snowblower while I'm in MN next month since none of the dealers out this way seem interested in pricing one for me.
He was refering to the kingquads in general

S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-11-2007, 07:02 PM
I've done a bit more looking into ATVs. Went to a local dealer that handles 4 different lines. After talking with sales and the service department, the new front runner is an '08 Kawasaki Bruteforce 650i 4X4. Will include a winch at no cost and a plow.

They called me later with 7.1% financing for the full term as I had told them the 11.1% was too high a rate. Still have one more rabbit to pull out of the hat concerning the price. Hopefully they will knock another $500 off....

realhuntin
12-11-2007, 11:32 PM
Quote[/b] (S.P.Martin Lawn Care @ Dec. 11 2007,8:02)]I've done a bit more looking into ATVs. *Went to a local dealer that handles 4 different lines. *After talking with sales and the service department, the new front runner is an '08 Kawasaki Bruteforce 650i 4X4. *Will include a winch at no cost and a plow. *

They called me later with 7.1% financing for the full term as I had told them the 11.1% was too high a rate. *Still have one more rabbit to pull out of the hat concerning the price. *Hopefully they will knock another $500 off....
Dude thats great http://www.gophergraphics.com/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif just hope you like the big bikes. Have you test rode one yet? Some Iv'e seen look like a willys jeep with handlebars...lol ...jk . The Kaw is a great bike, I'm sure you'll like it. and you got a great deal, a wench and plow as kickers on the deal WOW.

S.P.Martin Lawn Care
12-13-2007, 11:27 AM
I bit the bullet and bought the Kawasaki 650 ATV......I'll be putting it to work tomorrow, snow on the way. Even more, like maybe a foot more, this weekend.

I'll be posting photos shortly, probably ones while I'm shoving the *&@*# snow around....

pnplawn
12-13-2007, 03:17 PM
I like my UV


http://www.pnplawncare.com/2006.jpg

realhuntin
12-13-2007, 04:25 PM
Quote[/b] (S.P.Martin Lawn Care @ Dec. 13 2007,12:27)]I bit the bullet and bought the Kawasaki 650 ATV......I'll be putting it to work tomorrow, snow on the way. *Even more, like maybe a foot more, this weekend.

I'll be posting photos shortly, probably ones while I'm shoving the *&@*# snow around....
Now you have spent the money to buy this thing I want to see Pictures of it making money for you!

Let the money fall from the sky, I'm ready for it!