Say Hello !!!

[ToLazyToMove]

and how often do we need to edge??

Every other week. But one thing I have learned: Don't Low Ball! Offer same price and thow in something extra!! Just something that would only be extra labor, like keeping a rolled edge on pinestraw or keeping the mulch turned up so it has a fresh look after each visit.

What type of mowers do y'all have?

[obarr31]

HI! my name is Brian, im from Columbus OH. I work a full time job during the day and do landscaping, lawncare at night after 5-my cut off time from the normal job. I dont have a business name yet, but am currently thinking of " After 5 lawn care" as the business name for obvious reason, though im not sure that works-what do you think.

Ive been listening to you on my iphone for close to a year now, what got me started finally in thinking of starting this business. I think lawnscaping to me is not only a good way to make a little extra funds, but to me is very meditative. I LOVE IT! lol and your honesty has lead me to be on your site, thank you for being so open on things, most I find are so quiet about lawncare one could hear a pin drop.

Why Start now, ummm! why not, why wait and keep hoping when the only thing that will happenif you dont start now is youll be another year older, im 45 I dont have much more time to wait lol.....

Well, id love some help on getting a proper and fitting name for the business and some much needed help in going professional, if you can assist-much appreciate it! im also taking your clases-great lessons, hope they keep coming and again thanx!:D

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum!

After 5 lawn care

I love the creativity of the name. The only thing that might be bad about it is what if people only think you can mow after 5? Might that work against you getting customers? What about when it gets dark earlier?

Will you mow on the weekends?

[obarr31]

my plan is to work after my full time job until dusk or until the job is done. I also will be working every weekend from dawn to dusk when jobs start coming. That was my thought to that people might be thinking i only work after 5, so on my web site, flyers and door hangers i put m-f 5pm til dark, sat&sun dawn to dusk to match my hopeful clients needs.

I only have a toyota corolla, with the seats down will carry most of what I need right now. Im hoping to start canvassing columbus soon with flyers and door hangers, praying to have a truck of some sort by the end of the year.

Just starting out anyone have any other ideas that might help! I only have a mower, weed wacker, and garden tools. anything else thats a must for a beginner

[jandrbusiness]

this is joey and I do my mowing durning the day and work a couple of part time jobs at night.If you have a few customers working after 5 is good but when you start getting 5 or 6 calls a day, it becomes a little more challanging.I do agree with Steve if you are able to work the weedends would be a plus.

Well anyway I wish you all the best in your lawn care business take care

JT

[OziGardenGuy]

Welcome to our forum!

Are you looking to buy into an existing lawn care business or start your own from scratch?

What have you been finding so far as you do your due diligence?

It has been a while since I logged in here as I have been busy, well, starting the business and marketing it, as well as moving house and renovating.

I want to thank you, Steve, and the other members of the forum who are so willing to share their experience and give advice. It has been very beneficial and made getting started a less onerous task.

Looking forward to seeing more of you.

Cheers - OziGardenGuy aka My Garden Guy.

[Steve55]

Hi everyone my name is Steve I'm from Tx and I am currently working as a machinist 6 days a week 12 hr days blah anyhow here's my story my wife is currently in school she will be done with her BA in about a yr I've decided that I want start a lawn care business I plan within the next yr to get all my equipment and start doing a little on the side (NOT MUCH) for obvious reasons like the hrs but I would like to get all my equipment ready for when she graduates and finds a job and have my license and insurance all lined out I need some advice on what equipment I should start out with so that I can pay cash for and should I go ahead and get the business license and checking and start depositing money into it also need some advice on advertising

Thanks Steve55

[Steve]

I need some advice on what equipment I should start out with so that I can pay cash for

I'd say keep it very simple at first because you don't know what kind of properties you will have or if you will even like doing it. Do you have any lawn care equipment for your home that you can start with?

and should I go ahead and get the business license
Does your area require it? If so than do it. Not all areas require a license.

and checking and start depositing money into it
If you registered a business name, you will want a checking account with that name to deposit checks.

also need some advice on advertising
There is a ton of lawn care marketing tips on here and the lawn care blog (http://www.lawnchat.com).

The basics of it is, get business cards to hand out to everyone you know and then hand out flyers in your area.

[Bamanutt]

James James,

Orig from jasper al but in Phoenix for 10 years, had a mowing biz back in 92 but sold it & went west. Thinking of starting up in az with 18 yr old son to get him off on the right foot. Read alot on here, seems like a great group willing to help, looking forward to sharing & learning what I can, where I can...

[Habber1]

Hi guys, started out in April 2012 have so far have 10 clients
Also have 2 small commercial properties and still growing,
Still learning lots of stuff from experienced people and use to do this
Work years ago so I have some knowledge. Got laid off so this is the
Choice that I went for being your own boss is great.

[Habber1]

Is this a good investment for my biz
To purchase a Honda Troy built 160cc ohc 3-in 1, 21'
Lawn mower, has auto choke return easy start, advanced triaction
Cutting system, self-propelled, key start.
If this is a good Honda lawn mower please let me know
Thanks guys.

[Steve]

Do you already have a mower you could use to get started and then scale it up as you go?

[Habber1]

Yes I have a new Hrx217 Honda self propelled gas 21'
190cc, and a Briggs and Stratton push gas 21' 158cc
Cause getting more customers that's why I was asking
To purchase that other Honda mower.
Thanks.

[cleancutlawnservice]

Just joined my name is chris my business is clean cut lawn service just got into it i do residential but next year breaking into the commercial industry, i use encore mowers. lol that doesnt matter im sure but an interesting fact:cool:

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum! It's great to have you here!

[tmla89]

Hi guys. My name is Timmy Mcquillin Ive been in the mowing business for 4 years on my own. got on the site for the software and seen the forum figured may learn a few things. must say the fustration of reading how some people on here have been out bid for $12 is a lil scary lol I only thought it was bad here anyway here to learn and contribute as much as possible.

[bobell]

Hi, I'm Bob. This will be my fourth season in the lawn care business. I have a full-time office job, so I don't take on many clients. Honestly, I do it because I love to be outside - and even more than that, I love being paid to exercise. :)

Also, you really can't beat the instant gratification of a freshly-cut lawn.

I'm a one-man operation most of the time. If I encounter a rainy week and need to play catch-up, I will bring on a helper. My equipment is pretty basic - just a couple of non-commercial-grade push mowers, a trimmer, and a blower. It does what I need it to do, and because all of my lawns are residential (and residential lawns here tend to be small and cramped), I can't see myself using a ZTR mower or a deck larger than 22". But maybe that will change someday.

Why am I here? Even small operations like mine need to be managed effectively, right? I'm hoping to maybe learn a few things.

thanks!

[Buzz Kutz]

Im about half way done with my third year now. Buzz Kutz is a part time lawn business. I started this about three years ago looking for a good retirement job. I justy turned 50 and I have just reached the point I can retire at any point. This is a bit diffrent than what Ive been doing for the past 28 years. (Police) Just joined and the site seems to have a lot of good information. Im now at the point tryingh to make that decision to retire and go deeper into the lawn industry or hang on to my job and keep building my pension. I look forward to learning more!

Buzz the fuzz......

[Eastcoast Lawn Care]

Welcome new forum members! Make a new post and say hello to us. Tell us a little about you and your company. What got you to take the jump and start your own business?
Hello everyone,
Been thinking about getting into the Lawn Care Business for a couple of years now. Two months ago I finally bought the equipment I needed and shortly afterwards picked up four customers. I love the thought of being my own boss. This has been a side business for now but would like this to turn into a full time job for me. Looking forward to learning a lot from everyone.

Thank you,
Eastcoast Lawn Care

[emerson607]

Taking a big step and selling my bumper repair business of 14 years. Have a second home in Florida and planning on starting up or purchasing a lawn care business. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. I'm in Leesburg Fl.

[dougcaskey]

I finally decided to take an active roll on your forum and possibly share some of my knowledge and ideas with everyone...I have been reading the posts for guite awhile but I haven't posted until yesterday for the first time...

Let me introduce myself, I am Doug and I own and operate Caskey Lawns & Landscapes here in South Central PA... This is my third year in business and by far my best...It was slow going but everything is coming together and the phone is ringing off the hook, or at least it was until the rain stopped...I'm sure everyone is dealing with that also and it is very frustrating waiting for the pennies from heaven..:)

One of the best decisions I have made is to start using the Gopher software program, This is absolutely awesome and it keeps my customers, billing, materials and everything up to date and organized..It is well worth the investment so take a look at it if your not using it, try the free trial first, you won't be sorry..

I look forward to sharing with you all so any questions or comments please do so...Good luck too everyone and pray for rain...

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum!

Doug, where do you feel most new start up business owners go wrong and what could they do to improve their chances of making it past their first couple of years?

[dougcaskey]

It was hard being patient the first year, I guess we all thought that as soon as we decided we are now in the lawncare business, the phones would start ringing off the hook and the money would be rolling in....It doesn't work that way, I don't care where you are located...Be patient...They will come :) Do a good job for your customers and they will bring you more business, Some customers can and WILL be a pain in the butt I can guarantee it...Be professional,kind and make them feel like they matter and you appreciate them..

Another big mistake alot of guys make is thinking they need to go lay out alot of cash to get started, If you can afford it okay but it's not necassary...I started with a used walkbehind Toro, a used Toro weedeater and acouple hand tools, a small 5 x 8 trailer...As time went on and more work came my way I bought things as I could without going into debt...I now have a 6 x 14 trailer equiped with trimmer racks,blower rack,lift assist on the gate, Exmark Lazer Z 60" Cub Cadet rider, Toro Super Recycler walk behind,2 Echo Trimmers, Echo blower and many other tools that I needed on along the way, I even bought a nice powerwasher this year that has already paid for itself after doing the first three wash jobs..

I guess to sum it up, To anyone just getting started

1) Be aggressive but patient
2) Don't get in over your head with cost
3) Believe in yourself

[Steve]

That is very interesting!

What kind of steps do you suggest a new lawn care business owner take to attract customers?

[dougcaskey]

Advertising is essential at first, You have to get your name out there, business cards are a great investment and order lots and give them to everyone ! :) Drop some off at local stores, etc...I also ask every new customer for one favor, I ask them for one referral, Word of mouth is the key in our business...Take care of your customers and they will get you more work...

[Finn0788]

Welcome new forum members! Make a new post and say hello to us. Tell us a little about you and your company. What got you to take the jump and start your own business?

Hey everyone I'm new to the forum. I'm currently in the Marine corps (actually deployed to Afghanistan right now) and found this website. I will soon be getting out of the military and have been doing as much research on owning a lawn care business as I can in my spare time. I'm trying to learn the ins and outs so here soon when I move back home to Michigan I will be able to begin a successful business in lawn care. When I found this website I thought "money" because it is loaded with so much information and tips and an awesome forum. So Steve that's for what you're doing and I look forward to asking many questions here in the near future.

[Habber1]

Welcome new forum members! Make a new post and say hello to us. Tell us a little about you and your company. What got you to take the jump and start your own business?

Hi guys started my lawn care buisness in may 2012
Was really busy for couple of months, but I still
Need to get more customers, sending flyers, handing
Out buisness cards some work some don't
But like I said started late so hopefully
Next year will be better.

Thanks for the great advice on the website
And forum.

[willtell]

My name is William and I live and work from Wetumpka Al. I am just starting my busines with my son and Daughter. They are 19 and 24 both are hard workers and won't to build a good company. I am putting up the capital and their putting up the labor. I look forward to joining the Lawn care business. and all the good advice that this forum has to offer. As I learn this business I will post what has worked for me.In the meantime i will be reading and asking questions.

thanks
William

[J.A.S.LawnService]

My name is Paco. I am a full time firefighter in IL. I started a lawn service in May 2012. I own a 36inch walk behind, Stilhl trimmer and blower. I am working on getting my name out. I have business cards, truck magnets and a Craigslist ad. I have six regular customers and a couple as needed. My kids will all be in school next year and I am looking to expand.

I have a lot of questions. Some already answered. I look foward to posting on site.

Thank you.

Paco

[Steve]

Hi William & Paco,

Welcome to our forum!

What got you all interested in starting your businesses?

[J.A.S.LawnService]

Steve, I have always been interested in having a lawn service. I enjoy working outside and I get cool toys. I am looking to keep myself busy and make a little money. Being a fireman helps. I work every third day. Then on my days off I mow.

Ty
Paco

[jaydamower]

Hi,

I plan to start my business next summer, but I am confused about what equipment to start off with. In the beginning I am going to do residential lawn to lock in some accouts. The go for commercial accounts. I was this about getting a self-propelled push mower and a tractor. Then once I make some money get a ZTR. What do y'all. Think? I am of course going to get a couple trimmers and edgers. Plus a walk behind leaf vac.

[Kyle.Johnson]

i just started my lawn care business with 3 lawns
shark attack lawncare- we take a bite out of ur lawncare needs

[Steve]

I was this about getting a self-propelled push mower and a tractor.

Do you have a push mower now? Even a crappy one? Could you start with that?

shark attack lawncare- we take a bite out of ur lawncare needs

I LOVE the name! You could create a fantastic logo with that too!

[b_lex]

Hello Gopherhaul community! My ambition to run my own gardening service lead me to this wonderful site. Glad I stumbled upon this forum while clicking around the net.
A personal thank you to everyone who has contributed to this site in one way or another - the various threads have been plenty useful as I plan my own business start up.

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum!

I look forwards to hearing your updates as your business grows.

[cuttingedgeron]

Hey everyone. I just started this past June(yeah I know, a little late in the season). I work by myself and my wife might help out when needed. Shes a real big help though. The equipment I have is a 60" cut Toro Zero Turn, Echo weed eater, kawasaki weed eater, husqvarna backpack blower, 6.5' x 10' trailer with dove tail and also have a Troy bilt self propelled push mower that I just bought yesterday at Lowes for a great bargain. I have had a handful of yards during this season, some mulching jobs and various clean up jobs already. So, imo I did alright starting out. I will post pictures soon of my setup.

[Rambler]

Hello people,

We are new here. I say "we" because I will be posting along with my fiance. If a dumb question is posted it's from me "A" if it sounds like a reasonable post it will be from my fiance "R." We just started a lawn restoration business about a month and 1/2 ago. We also mow grass, mulch and offer seasonal clean-up. R has been in the lawn care field (lawn tech) at a national company for about 8 years. He has held other jobs in related fields prior to this and has owned his own pest control business many years ago. Thanks for all the informative posts; I've been creeping on you guys for a year now. (A)

[Steve]

Welcome to the both of you :)

[srobert32]

My name is Steve and I've been in the lawncare business now for 5 years. The name of my company is Diversified Home Services, out of Frederick, Maryland. I actually got into lawncare by accident but I love it. I was layed off from a home build company after 23 years when the market tanked in 2008. So I took the test to become a contractor, past, and got my lisence, insurance, and started doing home improvements. Unfortunately I couldn't find enough renovating work to keep me busy. Customers started asking me to mulch, the trim hedges, and mow. Now it's full time and I don't have time for renovation work. I'm considering expanding into areation, overseeding, and applying fertilizer and pesticides (legally) which is what has brought me to this site. I'm looking for advice from you who are more experienced.

Thanks

[greenleaflawn]

Hello Steve and everyone else that might be regulars here. just want to say "hello". my wife and are have recently got out of the horse racing business. i've worked in racetrack management all my life and my wife Sarah and i worked at the track in Ontario, we recently had new management come in and things started to go south for us. Sarah had been the head groundskeeper at the racetrack/casino for a number of years and has finished a two semester course on horticulture at a local university and in the next week will be "Red Seal" certified in the field of horticulture. she received a nice severance from the racetrack (there was some sexual misconduct) and we decided to go into business for ourselves. we bought a Husqvarna self-propelled push lawn-mower, a Husqvarna zero-turn mower, a 14 foot landscape trailer, Stihl weed-wacker, one that has changeable attachments (blower, roto-tiller, hedge trimmer.....great piece of equipment, highly recommended, blower is fantastic) and all of the other stuff that goes with lawn care maintenance. we had a website designed (www.GreenLeaflawn.ca), bought a 2012 Dodge quad-cab 1500 (needed new truck anyway) and then had it wrapped with our logo and services. looks so good, can't tell you how professional our truck looks like now. so hopefully we'll be ready to go full bore next spring (she's working for a professional landscape company this summer/fall.....we are trying to get clients on the side, away from her work).

so, anyway.....just wanted to say hello and i think i'll be seeking advice and help on making our little 2-person company a success. we are very aware how hard we will have to work to become successful. prior to me leaving the racetrack i printed up some nice full color flyers (from a high end printer we had there) and did it the old fashioned way, delivering them door-to-door in a couple of high end estate type sub-divisions in the city (we live in Ottawa), homes that are just wreaking with money. actually got a hit or two on the very first day.

please don't be afraid to say hello back and will look forward to any tips that might help us out along the way.

cheers everyone........

[greenleaflawn]

Hi,

I plan to start my business next summer, but I am confused about what equipment to start off with. In the beginning I am going to do residential lawn to lock in some accouts. The go for commercial accounts. I was this about getting a self-propelled push mower and a tractor. Then once I make some money get a ZTR. What do y'all. Think? I am of course going to get a couple trimmers and edgers. Plus a walk behind leaf vac.

i bought a Stihl gas powered whipper snipper that can covert to other attachable attachments, i bought the main engine head that came with a whipper snipper and then bought a attachable blower and an attachable roto-tiller. blower works fantastic, very powerful and the other day we used the roto-tiller attachment for a dead grass and overseeding job. one of our best investments, yes, Stihl is somewhat expensive, i believe the original head w/whipper snipper was $320, the blower was around $200 and the roto-tiller was $260......but we now have a very good dependable piece of equipment w/ great attachments. well worth the money.

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum!

I look forwards to hearing how everything goes as you grow. I am sure you will be jam packed with customers in no time at all.

[candrews]

Hi, my name is Chad Andrews from SC. I have been in painting and power washing since 2001 and thought i would start a lawn service for 2013, went out and got a 2007 Isuzu truck, two pz6034 couple of string trimmers and so on, now i need to drum up some yards. Any help would be appreciated.

[Steve]

Hi Chad,

Welcome to our forum!

I bet you must have a lot of previous customers you can market your new services too. Maybe use some direct mail marketing to reach them?

[stangbanger2300]

Hello All,
My name is Jason and i'm kind of new to the lawn scene. I would love to start doing this full time. I'm currently an auto mechanic that is looking to make some life changes. I for one love the thought of being my own boss instead of someone else getting paid for my hard work and to be honest I'm getting tired of the ever increasing complexity of new cars. Work has also slowed to the point wear the shop I have worked for the past 16 years has started reducing our hours and is practically giving work away just to get customers in the doors.
About 4 years ago I bought A Toro zero turn and an assortment of other yard tools and have been doing work for family and friends ever since. I absolutely love the feel of accomplishment and the compliments that come with. The way the economy is I'm more than a little nervous about starting a new line of work but am going to commit anyway.
I need to do this for me and my family so please wish me luck and any pointers for A newbie would be greatly appreciated.
I love the site and will be on frequently to try to get a little more educated before next March when the next season starts. Also any pre season pointers would be of great help. Thanks to all and thanks for A great website
Jason
Sunny Florida

[ckilg008]

Hello, My name is Chris, I'm obviously new to the forum. I'm looking to grow my company, which is one reason I joined this forum. This year has been has been an extremely benificial learning season. However, I'm looking to gain as much knowledge as possible. I look forward to interacting with the members of this forum.

[Steve]

Hi Chris, Welcome to our forum!

[epiclee]

Epic Lawn Care ..... Calgary based .... 100% privately owned to give customers a personal touch.... With Epic ur not just a number....ur a priority!!!!:D

[Steve]

Great slogan! Welcome to our forum!

[Florida Lawn & Landworks]

Hi everyone, I first want to say thanks to everyone in this forum. I started my business last year after being laid off by my employer. Learning that I had my first child on the way, I couldn't afford to live on unemployment while waiting for the next job. Having no previous experience, this forum has helped me out daily! I now have around 30 residentials, 2 big commercials, and over $25,000 we are bidding for the new year. =) I couldn't have done it without Gopherhaul. Thanks again. Kyle - Florida Lawn & Landworks

[Steve]

That's great news Kyle. Keep us posted on how everything progresses.

[Asef77]

Hi and hello to this nation of snowplowers landscapers and all the rest that are here, and of course the guests that come and go.

Oh yeah you to Steve!

So anyway I am like brand new to this snowplow game, I haven't even hatched from my egg, but I'm cracking my way out, what makes me soo happy that I found a site like yours, where I'm thinkin I will get everything I need, now and future.

Im getting in to the snow plow business, went crazy looking for a starter truck, and ended up getting 2, good story but maybe weird too, maybe some other time I can share that, but yeah I'm getting busy reading everyone's posts and getting to know the site.

Oh well don't wanna give too much to read, once again hi hello and loads of THANKS!
Asef

[DannyP69]

Hi Steve, and All. I love this site and am very happy to have found it. It is already answering a lot of the questions I have had.

I started out my business late last summer. Around early August. I only worked for a couple of months because I am also working fulltime somewhere else.

I bought a mower, trimmer, chainsaw, and pressure washer. I also bought a Ford Ranger. Mainly due to wanting to start a Landscape business for the last few years. But also due to renovations to my house. I make a decent amount of money with my fulltime job and that basically pays for the bills, mortgage, etc.. But I started on my own to gradually get out of my fulltime job over the next few years.

Would you say that it's a good idea to kind of phase out my fulltime job while seeing how my business progresses as oposed to quitting outright and going fulltime at Landscaping?

Also, I am still learning a lot of the different aspects of the trade. I did a little bit of it years ago with someone who had their own company and he taught me the basics. But I am trying to pick up a lot more stuff by researching, and doing jobs on my own. Do you have any basic tips on starting out? Should I stay unregistered for a couple more years until things get rolling? Should I register the company right away and start charging taxes? Any other tips would be great.

My plan is to basically work my @zz off between my fulltime job and my business for the next couple of years so I can eventually run my company fulltime. I have also noticed that in the few short months that I did this in between my 9-5 job, it seemed to kind of get in the way. Clients didn't want their lawns mowed on Saturday, they wanted it done today. This was my biggest problem. Any tips?

Thanks again on the great site and many helpful tips on here. Thank You all.

Danny.

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum.

Would you say that it's a good idea to kind of phase out my fulltime job while seeing how my business progresses as oposed to quitting outright and going fulltime at Landscaping?

I think phasing out the full time job as your business picks up is a great idea.

Should I stay unregistered for a couple more years until things get rolling? Should I register the company right away and start charging taxes? Any other tips would be great.

I'd say it's always better to start off on the right foot than it is to try and fix bad business practices later.

Clients didn't want their lawns mowed on Saturday, they wanted it done today. This was my biggest problem. Any tips?

Can you set them up on weekly mowing schedules and then maybe take a day off of work each week to mow?

[mikosiko]

Hello all and my situation is exactly like DannyP69... So looking forward to see his progression also. I am excited about starting and my plan is basic, great person and exceptional service. These are the only two things that matter to the customer and thats what I intend to provide. I have experience in lawn treatment about 2 years and mowing from a youngster, so I am definitely registering to go to lawn school... Thanks Steve... Other than that my experience is in my current career of 15 years that involves lots of standing, labor, thought work, working all day every day and never taking a sick day. So now its time to take those things and add to it learning how to operate a business. The market here consists of 305 lawn care companies and very few all in ones (that provide all services in lawn care). Most only do some services but not others, maybe I'll find out why, or maybe I will find what makes me more viable and hire-able than the others. There are about 300,000 single family homes in this city with lawns to be cared for. Plenty of market share in my view and great reason to make my mark to find my niche. Look forward to chatting with all of you. Thanks again Steve for all you do. Happy Holidays to all of you!!

[Steve]

Happy Holidays to you too and I look forwards to hearing all about your company growth into the new year.

[Dkoester]

Hi Steve, I came across this site while searching for ways to grow our business. I'm impressed. I could tell right away you care for people to do well. My name is Dewain Koester and I own Extremely Green Inc. We do lawn care and landscape maintenance. I have 2 employees, sometimes 3 during the summer months. 2007 is when we opened for business. Great to be here!

[groundworks]

My small landscaping company is only one year old, however, I have been doing landscape work for five years as a hobby. My hobby has grown to a point I desided I had better form a company.

I live in a small city in Indiana so have to deal with the winter months, fortunately I have a full time job to support my hobby/company.

I provide almost all aspects of the landscape business except hardscape, don't have the equipment or knowledge.

[Steve]

Welcome! I look forwards to hear more about the ways you want to improve your business going into the new year.

[ToddAnderson]

Hey guys my name is Todd, I'm new to the business currently a college student, obtaining my Associates Degree in Business Administration.

I'm glad I found this blog as I have numerous questions, I'm based in Virginia.
My plan is too place lawn care business in maybe about 4 or 5 states and have a couple of
Chopper dealerships as well!

I have a income of 7,500 to start with to start my business, if you guys have any insight on how I can get my business up and running , it will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[tmull27216]

Hello
This is who I am
44 year old Carpenter by trade ( 24 years experience) . Landscaper by choice ( 2 years working for someone)

This is how I got started and the direction I would like to go:

A friend had asked me to help him with his business. He lost his drivers license for reason I will not get into. For the last two years Ive been helping him drive , cut lawns and doing spring/ fall clean ups . Ive learned a lot and
also discovered ....I really.... like doing this and decided to purchase some of my own equipment. I figured If I don't go into business myself worst case I can sell the equipment



This is what I have for equipment (mostly used but in excellent condition)

-Scag 48" belt driven
-Scag 61" three wheel trike
-Dual wheel trailer
-Two echo whip trimmers
-Red max 7100 blower
-Sthil Br 600 magnum blower
-1995 F150 4x4 4.9 5spd
-"GohperHaul Extreme Lawn Care Business Tips"
(Christmas Present .... starting reading the book and finished it the same day)


Hopefully this site will help me achieve more ( of my own ) accounts

Any advice would be greatly appreciated .Meanwhile Ill keep reading this site

Tim

[Steve]

What kinds of things have you been doing to get new customers so far?

[jamespierce]

The name of my business is Spring Valley Lawn Care. I started the business 3 years ago and in those three years I have had the success that I had hoped. I am a school teacher and run this business on the side. It had been profitable, but I look to increase the business in the coming year. I would like to get into the commercial grounds maintenance business, but unsure how to go about it and how to quote the jobs.:rolleyes: My main goal is to build this business up and then sell it in the next 5 years.
Jimmy Pierce

[groundworks]

I'm glad to join this group and hope to learn and maybe provide some insight that might help others.

It started out about four years ago as a hobby, like many I have a full time job and do this in the evenings and weekends. My hobby has turned into a great part-time hobby/job, I really love the landscaping business.

Last Jan, 2012 I decided that it had grown to the point that I needed to form a company. It has grown to the point I'm considering going full-time. The problem is of course leaving a full-time salary + benefits job when you live in the midwest and have to deal with snow, I live in Indiana.

I do almost every aspect of the landscaping industry except for hardscape.

[tmull27216]

What kinds of things have you been doing to get new customers so far?

I was going to leave that as rhetorical question. However feel I need to respond. Just a few things Ive done so far

-Combining some of the very limited real estate experience I have into creative marketing.I sent out flyers to new home owners in the area.My first thoughts are not to infringe on other landscape businesses . Im not looking to cut their prices Im looking for people who want quality work done. Work is needed on my flyer and will be doing more research

- Had business cards made

-Because I have some free time this winter I will be volunteering my time to help others . This will not only eventually get my name out it will make me feel good while doing it.

[Steve]

Because I have some free time this winter I will be volunteering my time to help others . This will not only eventually get my name out it will make me feel good while doing it.

That is fantastic! Keep us posted on what you do and how it works out for you. Your experiences will inspire others to try this as well.

[nice2weedu]

Can't wait to pick ur brains!

[graybroslawncare]

Hello to all,

I am new to this site and I just want to say thanks to everyone out there helping each other out and discussing real issues that we all face in this industry.
Our lawn care company is 11 years old and comprised of three brother and a few of our close friends. I am the oldest brother at 24 years old; I recently took full ownership of our business, due to different career paths chosen by my two younger brothers. I have found this site very helpful and supportive as I take on this business as a full time career. In the off season we provide snow removal services with our parents snow removal company.
Feel free to ask me any questions or to chat. I look forward to interacting more on this forum. What things do people like to know about other lawn care companies?

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum!

How has it been working with family in the business? Would you have any suggestions to others as how best to make it work and avoid conflicts?

[graybroslawncare]

That is probably the biggest question I ask my self everyday too. I own our lawn care company and my two younger brothers still work for/with me everyday. I have to be their boss but also their older brother, so distinguishing between those two roles has been a challenge for me.
I have found that one of the best things we do to minimize conflicts is to spend time together away from work. We are all really close in age, so we are able go mountain biking together, ride four-wheelers, shoot guns, golfing, etc. We like keeping the tight bond that we have as brothers, because it is what ultimately got us to where we are now. Our name has grown into our business name, and people in our area love to see us working together and upholding a high reputation. The family aspect of our business has gotten us many accounts and helped us keep them for many years.
My suggestion to others in a family business would be: keep everyone invested and motivated equally, spend time together away from work to further your relationship, and ultimately just have fun and love what you do. Small family businesses are huge reputation builders, and equally reputation destroyers; don't let money and stress come between family.
Thanks again for the great question Steve, and the chance for me to reflect on such a great aspect of my life!

[clooney]

Heys everyone,

My name is Steve from Delaware. I'm a new member ready to get started this spring with a new landscape division to my company. I own an asphalt sealcoating company looking to expand and offer customers more great service. I have worked in the landscape field during the summer while in college years ago. I did fall clean ups in my area last year and looking for more opportunities this year. Any tips with estimating, purchasing material at discounted rates and start up suggestions would be of interest to me. Thanks in advance for any and all input you guys might have. Look forward to the time here!

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum!

Figure out how long it takes you to mow your own lawn. Then you should be able to bid a job based on the time per sq/ft. That should be the simplest way for you.

Keep us posted on how it all goes.

[elitelawn13]

I'm exploring starting a lawn care business and purchasing some existing accounts with equipment and labor to get started. Given my background is in business and marketing (serial entrepreneur) I'm looking at this as more of an investment to grow rather than working directly in the field. I rarely join forums but this one has a lot of good information. Excited to learn more.

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum!

I'm looking at this as more of an investment to grow rather than working directly in the field.

How will you go about doing this? How do you maintain a certain level of quality and know what your employees are up to?

[guardacorte]

I'm exploring starting a lawn care business and purchasing some existing accounts with equipment and labor to get started. Given my background is in business and marketing (serial entrepreneur) I'm looking at this as more of an investment to grow rather than working directly in the field. I rarely join forums but this one has a lot of good information. Excited to learn more.

In my experience as both an employee and now my own boss I don't believe you can learn more unless you get out into the field. how can you grow your business on reputation, without knowing the "complete product", how can you ensure your buying the right (expensive) machinery if you haven't been on the ground, Obviously if your loaded you can pay people to do this, but you won't know anything about the process or product, and if you are not directly involved how can you ensure your not just investing in the process of building the reputation of your crew not your company....maybe costing you contracts if they left.

I have employees and I leave them at contracts, whilst ill do others, I always check there work, I have high standards and on more than one occasion I've made them do it again, you must do this on every job until they know the standard expected, I know I sound hard, but my customers refer my name not my crews name to friends etc.

Bottom line, get out in the field if you want to learn how to really care for lawns.

[Pat65]

Hello my name is Patrick and I am trying to start lawn mowing business this spring in Somerset Kentucky. All I have is a Honda HR 214 push mower an echo weed wacker in a pickup truck like everyone new I wish I had some customers. Any advice or tips for me would certainly help. Thank you everybody

[elitelawn13]

How will you go about doing this? How do you maintain a certain level of quality and know what your employees are up to?

My intention would be to be on site for the first month, afterwards, check their work on a consistent basis. Additionally, I would be focusing on sales, marketing, billing, purchasing, client relations, etc...

I have been shadowing my friend this week. I've learned that there's a lot to learn and if I did enter this industry I would dive in head first.

Thank you for all of the great feedback. This is exactly why I joined this forum. Ideas need to be challenged. They can save a pretty penny.

[guardacorte]

Hello my name is Patrick and I am trying to start lawn mowing business this spring in Somerset Kentucky. All I have is a Honda HR 214 push mower an echo weed wacker in a pickup truck like everyone new I wish I had some customers. Any advice or tips for me would certainly help. Thank you everybody

Hi Patrick, I used friends and family to get first contracts, ensuring i was freindly with anyone i saw whilst doing the lawn, chance conversations grow money, i never offer, always let them ask the magic how much will my lawn cost to cut question, always visit job before giving a price and if a hedge needs doing to, tell them, hedge cutting is also lucrative. Never give a price without seeing it. it has grown naturally from doing this on residential to over 100 lawns a week peak season this on word of mouth alone, factor in hedges too and you will be on a winner. I tried a few weeks advertising once and got one customer from it and luckily I still do him, but was an expensive experience for a new start.

Once established and having invested nearly everything back in on equipment etc I started targeting commercial contracts and gardening contracts all have come mainly from online yellow pages, very cheap local advert 100 a year per local area targeted, I invested in a free phone number which points to my mobile and whispers free phone number so I know To answer phone correctly with company name etc, because this is the only advert I run and all my lawns come in on mobile number I know it's very effective, but you need the equipment.

Hope I have helped a little basically get people talking about you.:)

[EricG82]

My name is eric, i have been mowing part time for 4 years now. Im wanting to go full time with my business this year. Would love any advice on getting more new customers.

[DannyP69]

Hi eric. Which area are you in? Have you tried advertising on craigslist? Under the lawn and garden section? Or kijiji? You would be surprised how many clients you can get off craigslist.dont do flyers unless your targeting specific neighbourhoods that you want to have a chunk of your work in. Other than that, just do a great job and word of mouth will do the rest for you. Im going into my second year. Last year i started in august. A bit late. Just as a trial run. Bought the basic equipment and kept my fulltime job. This year ill be starting in april with all my equipment already bought. Remember, if you do a great job with peoples properties, and be friendly, than getting customers will be the least of your worries.

Danny.

[EricG82]

Danny i live in the piedmont triad of north carolina. I have not tried craigslist this year yet, i have in the past and didnt get much response from it. I will try it again. What is kijiji?? Thanks for your help.

[Steve]

What is kijiji??

Isnt that a canadian version of craigslist?

[MachineGrn]

Hi All-
I am a new Member from Black Forest, Colorado. I have been Aerating Lawns and smaller Lawn Care for five years. Started part-time, but in the last 2-3 years it has grown to 300-400 aerations every spring and 15 weekly lawn care customers. I would like to grow the weekly lawn care to 20-22 jobs. The aerations are my favorite part. I do not enjoy having employees, so it is just me.

I found the site because I am looking for a new walk behind aerator. I have been using two old blue bird aerators for the last five years. I am at least the third owner, and they were rentals before that. I recently rebuilt the entire smaller aerator because it had tore itself apart over it's long and difficult life. New bearings, tines, took the engine & wheels off and completely re-welded the entire frame, put on a newer engine, and put it back together. All is good, but it is time to put this machine into the backup roll and get a new one.

I am leaning towards Turfco's XT5. I do mostly small lawns with some hills. Some of the backyards can be difficult to get to with an aerator, that is why I re-worked the small bluebird. How do you guys feel about the XT5 for my needs?

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum!

I'd guess you'd probably have to figure what size property are you using them on and what is your budget?

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[MachineGrn]

The lawns are small, usually around 3500 sq. ft.

The main problem is the back yards are difficult to get to, and have pretty steep hills. Theres a lot of zero-scape(rocks) to roll over to get to the back yards. Most of it t.he yards have gates, although they are wide (36inches^)

I need something that get to the yards without draining myself. I have settled on Turfco's XT5. I hope it goes across rocks(small up to 4inch river rock) and can climb hills and gravel in transport mode.

How do owners of the XT5 like it and how does it do with the lawns like I listed above??

[Steve]

You might want to make a post of that in the equipment section so others can join in on it. Also have you considered a lawn tractor with an aeration attachment?

[MachineGrn]

Ill make a post over in the other section. There is no way a pull behind would work on a small lawn, that is difficult to get to, has some steps, backyards with gates, and that has hills. I am looking for a walk behind, nothing else works for the lawns I do.

[jdambm]

Hey Steve and Company
I do this part time since 2003 to help offset the cost of private education, thought I would come on board to see what I could learn if thats OK;)

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum!

What are your future plans with your business? Do you want to take it full time in the future?

[johnrobertmartin]

Hi I am getting back into the Lawn Care Industry. I am a Minister at a small Church in Hanoverton Ohio. This will be a supplimental career for me

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum! What got you out of the business in the past? Were there any lessons you learned from the experience that will make it easier to run your business this time?

[johnrobertmartin]

I just was not prepared to make a good effort at it.

[Steve]

Well I hope you really enjoy it this year and get a lot out of it.

[right_arm7380]

Glad to know this resource is out there. Just started my own lawn and home care business. Found this while I was out surfing. Got my LLC, my business cards, my truck magnets and I'm starting out door-to-door today. Wish me luck!

[batdaddy]

Hello from Delaware!
I've been in business 23 years-started part time,went full time a few years later. I service mainly residential properties.
I enjoy working outdoors,and love being my own boss!
In my spare time,I'm a volunteer firefighter.

[Steve]

Got my LLC, my business cards, my truck magnets and I'm starting out door-to-door today. Wish me luck!

Best of luck! Keep us updated on how it all goes!

I've been in business 23 years-started part time,went full time a few years later. I service mainly residential properties.

WOW why after 23 year? Did you ever want to do it full time in the past or was it just the right time when you did it?

[vinnyslandscaping]

Since 2004, I have worked for a buddy of mine's landscaping company. After a few years, the company fell under. Last year, I accepted a job cutting a neighbors grass to help her out and I fell back into the love of working in the yard.

I launched my "Landscaping Business" with a 21" cheap mower from Home Depot and an electric trimmer and blower. I was able to get a hand-me-down gas trimmer and blower from my father-in-law, a 10ft trailer and a 72" Dixie Chopper that his Property Management Company owns (commercial building management) and began advertising on craigslist.com. Last year, I brought in approx. 20 residential customers, 12 of them being grass only. I offered services ranging from lawn care to tree trimming to mulch and leaf removal to hardscaping. I added, aeration and overseeding at the end of last year. During the winter, I bought my own 36" Scag walk behind to finally get into peoples back yards.

This year, I am serious about expanding my customer base and focusing on specific tasks in the yard to manage. Since I am still unknown, I've created a new name and logo, developed flyers and handouts and focused strictly on grounds maintenance (grass, mulch, planting, leaves). I advertise on craigslist every day and have yet to bring in any new customers.

I am wondering if it is a good idea to go with a new image and what else could I do to help get my name out there.

Thanks

Nick
Vinny's Landscaping (currently)

[mfase731]

Hey, my name is Mike and for now I just service a couple yards from last year. 2012 was my start-up, just doing a few yards with a new Z-turn Toro 54" Titan with a bagger. Last year was a rough start up not knowing what to charge? I basically started doing yards in neighborhood for $20. Hopefully by getting information on forums like this I can quickly get into more profitable position. Marketing seems to be my biggest hurdle to date. Any advice is greatly appreciated!

Thank you, Mike.

[mfase731]

This will be my 1st full season. Made a lot of mistakes last year in quoting jobs. Hope to gain some knowledge from this and other forums like it. I had 1,000 postcards printed from Vista Print and as of today only 1 call. What a waste of $350.

Mike

[Steve]

Since 2004, I have worked for a buddy of mine's landscaping company. After a few years, the company fell under.

What is your view on why that happened? Do you feel there were any lessons you learned from it?

I am wondering if it is a good idea to go with a new image and what else could I do to help get my name out there.

Sure why not! Create a new image and promote it with business cards to everyone you know. Then reach out to friends of friends etc.

This will be my 1st full season. Made a lot of mistakes last year in quoting jobs.

What were some of the bidding lessons you learned from last year?

[mfase731]

What is your view on why that happened? Do you feel there were any lessons you learned from it?



Sure why not! Create a new image and promote it with business cards to everyone you know. Then reach out to friends of friends etc.



What were some of the bidding lessons you learned from last year?

Still trying to figure out on a consistent way to bid a yard based on that my yards are scattered all over, not in same neighborhoods.

[Steve]

Try and experiment with the online lawn care calculators (http://www.gopherforum.com/showthread.php?p=43299#post43299). They should help you get more consistent bids created.

[batdaddy]

Best of luck! Keep us updated on how it all goes!



WOW why after 23 year? Did you ever want to do it full time in the past or was it just the right time when you did it?

When I started my business, I already had a full-time job ,with a
medical supply company,that was undergoing some corporate changes....
(downsizing).I left the medical company to pursue lawn care ,fulltime,and
have now been full time for about 20 years.It WAS the right time!

[NCLS1]

Hello everyone,

Getting ready for the season here and they are talking 6+ inches of snow!:)

[H-MaC Services]

Thanks everyone on the forum for all the great info. I'm Michael and I have learned so much from reading the posts. I have been doing this 2 years now and still am very small but growing daily. Thanks again.

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum! What are you doing to promote yourself this spring?

[jradiamondruff]

My friend Ed and I are just starting up; both of us have building and grounds maintaince experience, apartments, hotel/motel and school districts. I was house painting for 15 years, now we want to concentrate on Power Washing.
I found your site while searching for power washing flyers. We are in Saint Petersburg, FL. Any help; pointers or extras would be appreciated.
J. R.

[Steve]

Hi JR,

Read as much as you can here and on my blog at www.lawnchat.com. There is a lot of information that will help you grow.

[crypiter]

My name is Chris. I'm 32, from PA, and currently a stay at home dad. When we lost our long time baby sitter for our boys I had to quit work and become a stay at home dad. The cost of daycare for the 2 was 75% of my monthly income. My wife has her "dream job" so her quitting was not an option. I really enjoy getting to spend so much time them.

I recently decided to try and start a lawn care service after a few people asked if I could do some work for them in my spare time. My wife and I got to talking and decided maybe this would be a good way to get some extra income coming in and also a chance for me to get out of the house. I have already got several quotes for general liability insurance. I also have the tools to at least get me started. A truck, riding mower, push mower, and string trimmer. As well as tools such as rakes, shovels, etc.

I am having trouble picking marketing items. I am trying to design a flyer but I am so picky I'm holding things up. I want to hurry up and get started since I am already starting late (it's the end of April). I hope this site can help me get the business started as well as help me be successful. I will be doing a lot of searching on the site to find answers to the many questions I have but if anyone has some words of advice, encouragement, or tips in general feel free to PM me. I am looking forward to my new business venture and hope that I will soon be helping people like me on this site so I can give a little back.

[Steve]

I am having trouble picking marketing items. I am trying to design a flyer but I am so picky I'm holding things up.

Welcome to our forum!

I'd say just start getting the word out. See if anyone you know, or if anyone they know needs their lawn cared for and if they will hire you. It's a lot easier selling to people you know than those you don't.

[jrod14]

been away from heavy business nearly 2 years. Have always had my company but took a major downsize in late 2011. I guess i just got in a rut and at one time from gaining nearly 75 customers quickly....I downsized to 5 really good ones! The only bad thing about the business was that it was extremely difficult to find guys that wanted to work. They say they wanna work but then you get a crap load of work and they bail on you. So the great news now is I have partnered up with a close friend of mine who also have a lawn & landscape business for the past 7 years but who also ran into the same problems. We are ready to hit it hard and I am just as excited about our "relaunch" as i was when i started my company in June of 2010. This time we are trying to go the extra mile and have hired graphic designers to do all our business designs. I will keep ya'll posted and will be grazing the threads! Take care gentleman...oh and ladies!

[Steve]

Jacob,

Welcome back!

This is an amazing experience you went through! What advice do you have for others to help them avoid this issue?

Would there be a top 5 list of do's and don'ts?

[AtLastEnterprises]

My name is Dale, owner of the Lawn Guy of Suffolk, based in Long Island NY. I never in a million years pictured this happening, but after being out of the business for over 18 years, here I am coming full circle and chopping green again. After selling my landscape business back in 1995 and starting a telephone construction company, I figured I was out of the lawn arena for good... I have since sold my tel biz, and am actually looking forward to getting back to where it all started, and bact to my roots. I will update soon on my progress.... wish me luck!

Dale:D

[clodizzle]

Hi all.

I'm super excited to have found this community! I just joined but I have been helped so much by everything that you guys have already posted from the past. I figured I may as well jump in and try to get more info from you guys to help me get started on my business.

A little about myself: I am a young man that learned the skills of lawn care and service from my dad as I grew up. My dad had a very successful lawn service and passed it on to my oldest brother that still has a fantastic client base. I grew up and moved away to go to college. Graduated, and now have a family and I am a full time teacher.

I feel the need to make a little extra money so I would like to get about 10 yards to earn a little cash flow. Not trying to become some huge big business, but just a modest residential lawn care service.

I currently have 2 yards and got both of them by simply posting my ad on craigslist. I now have my business cards and I am very excited about whats to come.

I printed some flyers that I found from someone on here that was very helpful and professional. I am wondering if going to walmart and placing them on car windows would be a good idea??????

Please give me some info on the thought. Thanks!

[Priceville Lawn Services]

We are a small company,starting out with small client base would like to expand client base.any advice is welcomed.We offer fall & spring clean up & leaf removal.
Thank You
Angie

[Steve]

After selling my landscape business back in 1995 and starting a telephone construction company, I figured I was out of the lawn arena for good... I have since sold my tel biz, and am actually looking forward to getting back to where it all started, and bact to my roots. I will update soon on my progress.... wish me luck!

Welcome to our forum Dale. Why did you sell your business back then? Are you finding it a lot easier to get started again with your previous experience?

I printed some flyers that I found from someone on here that was very helpful and professional. I am wondering if going to walmart and placing them on car windows would be a good idea??????

We don't see that as one of the better marketing methods because how many of those cars you put flyers on, also own homes? A small percentage.

[Heidi J.]

Hello!

My name is Heidi. I have been in the lawn care business for over 20 years. I work at our family owned company in Michigan. We do fertilizing, weed control, vegetation control, tree spraying and such.. we do not do mowing or landscaping.

I love getting advice on these forums and seeing what everyone else is doing. Thanks for having me :p

[Downtownmike]

I look forward to learning from each of you.

[vittorecruz@gmail.com]

Welcome new forum members! Make a new post and say hello to us. Tell us a little about you and your company. What got you to take the jump and start your own business?
Hello everyone , my name Vittore I just recently just moved to the U.S.and the State of Florida. I'm from KyotoJapan were I was raised in to the beautiful Art of Landscapes , I learned this art from my father, relatives, and mandatory schooling . Landscape in Japan is so much different than here in the U.S.. Everything that we do is performed in the old ways with great pride, dedication , and upmost attention to detail. Even something so simple in the U.S.as delivering a newspaper, is art form in it self. A news paper is placed at the door everymorning with Flowers for the home. I'm very happy to have found your site thanx to Squido.com. My favorite gardens to build are any type Asian garden, especially Karasansui gardens , Koi Ponds. I also like buliding Bamboo gates and entrance to gardens with Torei Gates . And no garden is complete with out Rain Chains, hanging from your roofs. I have a A.S.Science Degree in Horticulture and Soil Science. And I'm FCHP- Florida Certified Horticultural Professional. With FNGLA - Florida Nursery Growers Landscape Assosiation. I live for plants, balance of nature, and improving everthing around us all. Being new to here I'm in need of generating a customer base, for lawn care and everything else for landscape installs and design. Once again thank you everone for welcoming me to your home,,,,

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum! I'd love to see some pictures of the landscapes you have created.

[Cbrooks]

Welcome new forum members! Make a new post and say hello to us. Tell us a little about you and your company. What got you to take the jump and start your own business?

Hello my name is Chris I recently moved from Minnesota to Montana due to an illness in my wife's family. I have been push mowin lawns since I was 12 years old 4 years ago a friend asked me if I would mow forclosed homes in MN with him that's we're I started in the foreclosure boom in MN. My company is now called CHRIS BROOKS LAWN CARE since I have moved to Montana I have tried to get into mowing for closures here but there are not very many here and every thing is so far away it's hard to make them pay out so I am slowly starting to move toward residential lawns I put my business in a nice add in the big phone book here and I also advertise on Craig's List I'm going to hand out flyers this week so far I've had a decent amount of people but either I now it one time or they think its to expensive the town I live in is approx 70 thousand people as I counted 32 lawn care companies in my area and I really feel like I got 2 late of a start this year as the phone book just came out Memorial Day weekend if anyone had any good advice please help me out

[Steve]

Welcome to our forum! Are you marketing through your friends and social networks? Those tend to be the easiest to sell to initially.

[Gforce]

Well, I got to tell you, I'm here but, I really don't know much about lawns, I stared my business because I lost my job, and I got no choice at the beguining of May, now I got a company, OGC yard services, got 13 customer in les than a month(just mowing, I don't know how to do any other job!!!), and I really bolive I can take this to an other level, so I triying to learn and get help from the experts as many of you I bet.
I live in Indiana, and I really interesting in lawn care I hope I can get some help around here.

Thanks and I'll be around here.