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Nikon
11-03-2007, 03:26 PM
Yeah thats right that is STIHL biggest and baddest blower the BR600 with 712 CFM, FC110 Stick Edger, FS90R Trimmer

Thanks Tony
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~Snow Season Is Here and The Photos Are ~

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Steve
11-03-2007, 09:34 PM
Tony,

Thanks for posting the great pictures! Are you planning on getting some magnetic signs for your truck? Or anything like that? It would be great advertising! http://www.gophergraphics.com/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Little's
11-03-2007, 11:33 PM
I like the pics. I just picked up 2 new Stihl chain saws. How are you liking the Stihl blower and weed eater/ edger. Are they living up to their name? Perform well? I am loving the saws. I got the new 192 top handle saw. It weighs only 6.6 lbs. Perfect for one hand use in trees etc. I also got the 290 with a 20" bar. Super strong and reliable.

Nikon
11-04-2007, 10:28 AM
The STIHL product is very good performance I have 0 problems so far with them other then regular maintenance. I have never had them to pull more then 1 or 2 times on the recoils to start. The blower is most excellent if you if decide to get bored check out their website and read on the information. Weight to performance ratio is excellent. I know most lawn care services use Redmax, Shindiawa, or Kawaski wich are all excellent products. Weight is a factor toward the blower, less fuel use and better emissions since it has their new technology.

The MS192T chainsaw is very nice its main purpose is for tree trimming. it has 31.2CC or something like that, and priced at 299.99$ its perfect. I am looking into getting one for just for small jobs since it has 14" bar.

The MS200T is its step brother little more power at 35.1CCs and weighs 7.7 pounds, but has the option of putting a 16" bar on it. The price at 529.99$ I'll stick with the MS192T.

The MS290 "farm boss" is their #1 selling and most common saw. You can use that saw at 16" 18" and 20" bar possibly more but not recommend by STIHL.

If you haven't noticed I do work for a STIHL dealer =), and I do nearly 90% of the sales.


If you haven't read my post in the Introducing yourself area. you should.

Advertising will be done on my 6X12 enclosed trailer next year. Will prolly be stickerd on the sides and back of the ramp.

I may get the magnetics for he sides of the doors since the truck is multipurpose at the moment.

Looking Good Lawn service
11-18-2007, 03:56 PM
The stihl is a great blower, this is coming from someone who uses redmax and echo blowers only. I got my first stihl this year, very nice power and starts easy, careful, i learned you NEED to put your foot on the bottom to start it, or with its high compression it will come up and hit your shin, ouch.

Nikon
11-20-2007, 06:55 PM
I recently changed the mower that I wanted. I found out that I can get a yazoo-kees KIKW36150 demo from our dealer for a decent amount. It will still be a hydrocut, it won't have elec. start. but I am young. and still a 36" width cut. Although I would love to have a rider at the moment I can't afford one or have the clients with large enough properties, I already know that I will still have to use my 21" mower at a few houses yet. Now the only thing left would be a my enclosed trailer.

Keeping in touch
Tony

Steve
11-20-2007, 08:19 PM
Quote[/b] ] found out that I can get a yazoo-kees KIKW36150 demo from our dealer for a decent amount.

When are you getting that? I'd like to hear more about that mower.

Nikon
11-21-2007, 12:09 PM
My goal is to get it sometime after next week. They are already holding the mower for me. I just need to get the my fininances cleared up =)

Steve
11-21-2007, 12:35 PM
Let us know how all this works out and post some pics!

Nikon
11-25-2007, 03:27 PM
Anyone know what the average cleanup is for smaller lots, 40x120 thinking like 50.00 for 65x120 like 75, and there are some out there that are 180x200 150.00 or so ?> FYI, these are feet =)

and don't matter on the gutters i charge a flat rate of 65.00 on those.


think im pretty average on my pricing but I don't want to under bid either.

AMW Graphics
11-25-2007, 07:20 PM
Nice truck.

What state are you in?

Steve
11-25-2007, 07:32 PM
Quote[/b] ]Anyone know what the average cleanup is for smaller lots, 40x120 thinking like 50.00 for 65x120 like 75, and there are some out there that are 180x200 150.00 or so ?> FYI, these are feet =)

How long does it take you to service these size properties?

Nikon
11-25-2007, 09:13 PM
I live very close to you. Hazel Park, MI

=)

When I filled up the 21 bags of leafs I was probably there for a good 5 hours by myself, using my blower to bunch them up in piles while using my lawn mower to suck and mulch the leafs to put into bags - compressing and using less bags =).

AMW Graphics
11-25-2007, 09:18 PM
Quote[/b] (Nikon @ Nov. 25 2007,10:13)]I live very close to you. Hazel Park, MI

=)

When I filled up the 21 bags of leafs I was probably there for a good 5 hours by myself, using my blower to bunch them up in piles while using my lawn mower to suck and mulch the leafs to put into bags - compressing and using less bags =).
wow, yes...about 11& mound here.

Nikon
11-25-2007, 09:29 PM
Okay sorry for the confusion here, im defintaly going to wait till spring and get the mower now and I just can't decide on the 2 Yazoo Kees or the Ferris hydro version. the mower that the dealer was trying to sell me was plain belt drive and I really didn't appreciate being told one thing then now saying that its a belt drive. So for now on im just going to have to deal directly to sales and bypass the annoying sales rep.

Ferris offers elec start but 1 hydro transmissions, the Yazoo-kees offers dual hydro/izt transmissions, but no elec. start.

AMW - you probably come in the shop where I work full time , 9 mile rent all =)

Steve
11-25-2007, 09:46 PM
Quote[/b] ]When I filled up the 21 bags of leafs I was probably there for a good 5 hours by myself

Well you could go with taking the amount of hours the job takes and multiple that by $60 per hour. That might give you an idea of what you could shot for.

Nikon
11-25-2007, 09:50 PM
Thats a good point, but wow I would love to have charged 360.00, Maybe I need to start thinking of it that way, 60.00 an hour, and if I think about it my house took me about an hour or so to do . so avg house will be around 50.00 to 60.00$

but I didn't know the going rate was 60.00 an hour for yard cleanups. wow

AMW Graphics
11-25-2007, 09:57 PM
Quote[/b] (Nikon @ Nov. 25 2007,10:29)]Okay sorry for the confusion here, im defintaly going to wait till spring and get the mower now and I just can't decide on the 2 Yazoo Kees or the Ferris hydro version. the mower that the dealer was trying to sell me was plain belt drive and I really didn't appreciate being told one thing then now saying that its a belt drive. So for now on im just going to have to deal directly to sales and bypass the annoying sales rep.

Ferris offers elec start but 1 hydro transmissions, the Yazoo-kees offers dual hydro/izt transmissions, but no elec. start.

AMW - you probably come in the shop where I work full time , 9 mile rent all =)
lol, ya i have been there. Been a while though, i havent needed any equipment in a few years now.

Steve
11-25-2007, 09:58 PM
Well, you also should factor in how efficient you are too. I don't know what the going rate is in your area. The more efficient you are with your job, by using more tools that increase your productivity, you can lower your fee potentially and still make more profit.

Another thing to keep in mind is when you are starting out, you are generally more likely to underbid than overbid because you are afraid of losing the job.

You work at the rental center right? Have you considered asking some of the lawn care operators who come in to rent, how much they would charge to clean up the leaves on your property if you gave them the sq ft area? That might help you improve your bidding as well.

Nikon
11-25-2007, 10:10 PM
I have tried, only one person seems kinda reliable Dependable Lawn, his name is Jeff he comes here and there and has offerd to sell me used hydros, but I know how some people abuse the equipment not being the owner but the hired help.

Anyways I will have to ask, I have been asking certain friends in the area on what they charged or what was paid for the amount of work. so far I have came to the same conclusion of what you had said 60.00 an hour, and I suppose it comes down to the perfection of the work, one friend had bid the job at 40.00 and the customer was so happy they got 60.00 instead, and also was kinda disapointed at his earlier lawn service on pricing and performance, Now I probably could have got these jobs if I just posted flyers but I am being struggled down financily and I don't have the time to work both rental and lawn service right now. I do hope to go full time within the latest of 5 years, I have to get my *** out of debt first.

I don't know how long it took them to do that lot but it was a standard 40x120 lot wich mine is 65x120 and I finished mine in about 1 hour, but I didn't have many large leafs.

Working both at the moment will get me through and who knows within 2 years I might be in full time lawn service.

Nikon
11-25-2007, 10:18 PM
if any of you guys got yahoo messanger you can add me the user name is nikon_n3


Thanks Tony

Nikon
12-03-2007, 06:48 PM
Wich Mower should I get for next year, I really do like the feature of the electric start and on the other hand I do like dual izt hdryos on the kee's mower has anyone had any hands on these units or will I be the first?.

Steve
12-03-2007, 09:41 PM
Are you looking at one of these?

http://www.keemowers.com/images/mowers/mowerPhotos/kc22.jpg

http://www.keemowers.com/mowerProductKCSeries.html

Nikon
12-06-2007, 11:30 AM
No, Yazoo/kees.

http://www.yazookees.com

LGYardService
12-06-2007, 05:06 PM
I'm looking on buying my first backblower and I hope you guys can help me out. I am currently using a handheld Homelite blower but I defiantely need to step up with a commericial blower. Just can't decide what kind to buy. That STIHL looks great but probably can't fit in my budget. lol What backpack blower has commercial duribility and power but is still affordable for a new business like me? Thanks!

Nikon
12-15-2007, 01:30 PM
stihll has a low end commercial blower the BR380 and its 299.99 it does pretty well down size it only does around 465CFM compared to the BR550 wich is 399.99 and 530CFM
the BR600 is the biggest stihl makes and has 712CFM price at 499.99. If you look around at ECHO and RedMax and Shindiwia price is going to be around the same or more. I chose the Stihl just for the fact of weight to performance ratio.

Nikon
12-15-2007, 07:15 PM
Did you guys want me to post my new items I bought for the snow season, wasn't really thinking about doing the snow but I need the extra cash and purchased a new snow blower and a salt spreader. " I really need to get a trailer so I can get a fully self-propelled snow blower in the future.


Thanks Tony

AMW Graphics
12-15-2007, 07:52 PM
Quote[/b] (Nikon @ Dec. 15 2007,2:30)]stihll has a low end commercial blower the *BR380 and its 299.99 it does pretty well down size it only does around 465CFM compared to the BR550 wich is 399.99 and 530CFM
the BR600 is the biggest stihl makes and has 712CFM price at 499.99. If you look around at ECHO and RedMax and Shindiwia price is going to be around the same or more. I chose the Stihl just for the fact of weight to performance ratio.
I used Stihl line trimmers, chain saws, pole pruners, hedge trimmers, edgers, and blowers for 8 years NEVER had any trouble...Not even 1 time.

When i sold off all my equipment the people buying were surprised how well they ran!

The key (like I'm sure you all ready know) is MAINTENANCE and PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE!

For anyone who cares (lol) here is where i went to school about 10 years ago http://www.wyotech.edu
Was pretty cool, they were a lot smaller school then!
(was in Laramie Wyoming)

Nikon
12-15-2007, 08:12 PM
Fired up all my STIHL products today, haven't started them in over a month few pumps on the primer few pulls and off they go ran them for a few to warm up and burn some gas probably going to be a cycle that ill do every 2 weeks to a month just for the #### of it =). FC110 Stick Edger FS90R Trimmer, and BR600 blower =) POWER BABY YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Stihl is a very good product .

AMW Graphics
12-15-2007, 08:46 PM
Quote[/b] (Nikon @ Dec. 15 2007,9:12)]Fired up all my STIHL products today, haven't started them in over a month few pumps on the primer few pulls and off they go ran them for a few to warm up and burn some gas probably going to be a cycle that ill do every 2 weeks to a month just for the #### of it =). FC110 Stick Edger FS90R Trimmer, and BR600 blower =) POWER BABY YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Stihl is a very good product .
lol, when i sold my last line trimmer and blower they had been sitting for about 1 & 1/2 years without so much as being touched! They started right up.

My old chainsaws (stihl)..chins never came off...huskyvarna (sp?) that i barrow from my friend, they darn thing pops off every other minute!
(so another vote for stihl)

Steve
12-15-2007, 09:44 PM
Quote[/b] ]Did you guys want me to post my new items I bought for the snow season, wasn't really thinking about doing the snow but I need the extra cash and purchased a new snow blower and a salt spreader. " I really need to get a trailer so I can get a fully self-propelled snow blower in the future.

Yes we'd love to see what you got! Show us some pics.

Nikon
01-03-2008, 01:31 PM
After waiting a long time I figured out wich mower I am finally going to get.

Its going to be a Yazoo Kees KIKW48150.
It is a hydrocut unit and it has 15hp Kaw on it.
The price is unbelievable for size. It is new and in a crate.
This mower was shipped out for a demo at a show and never was opened.

I can't believe the price for a machine like this.
its under 2K.

Steve
01-04-2008, 01:09 PM
Tony,

Send us some pics when you get it and let us know what you think of the mower!

pmblair
01-04-2008, 06:45 PM
Wow!! Nice find, Tony!! What size deck is on it?

Nikon
01-04-2008, 08:46 PM
48" deck on that mower.

Cha Ching

pmblair
01-05-2008, 09:20 PM
Awesome!! Like I said... NICE find!!...

Think you could get one of those for everyone on the board at that price? http://www.gophergraphics.com/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Nikon
01-06-2008, 09:47 AM
Probably not, Its like a find in every bluemoon.
I just got lucky =/ I know if I orderd it from my place of business I would be paying around 3100.00 and they retail between 3600.00 to 4200.00 that particular mower.

The person who is selling it really wants to help me out. He's selling it to me for the price that he got it for. " at his store "
He used to be my old boss.

pmblair
01-06-2008, 01:44 PM
How nice of him!! You must have left a lasting impression with him. http://www.gophergraphics.com/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Steve
01-06-2008, 02:37 PM
Tony,

It does make you wonder if there is an opportunity here for you to get some mowers from him and resell them to forum members for cheaper than they could buy them for in their area, if that is possible.

Nikon
01-07-2008, 06:41 PM
Sorry for the long delay the snow equipment is posted.




Artan Outdoor Maintenance
Thanks Tony



nikon@wowway.com

Nikon
01-17-2008, 05:26 PM
Thanks to http://www.sheffieldfinancial.com/ I will now have my Yazoo Kees KIKW48150 in a few weeks as soon as they mail me out that CHECK for the loan that I got 6 months to payments no intrest. The snow season is here and banking on the season to pay the mower off by or before depending how big my income tax return is might be faster. My final price for that mower was $1799.35. I will post a photo as soon as its a assembled " still new in the box "

Thanks Tony

Steve
01-17-2008, 06:24 PM
Tony,

Can you say what kind of interest rate you got on the loan?

Also, I'd love to see some of the pics of it being assembled!

Nikon
01-17-2008, 06:41 PM
17.95% wich isn't to bad its not no 31% thats for sure.

But either way even if I didn't pay it off it would have been a 24 month loan at 92.45 a month. " but the 6 months no intrest no payment " by july 14 2008 " that mower should be paid by then.

Steve
01-17-2008, 06:49 PM
Very interesting!

For those not familiar with sheffieldfinancial.com, what made you choose them over a bank? Or at that rate, how would it compare with purchasing the mower on a credit card?

Nikon
01-17-2008, 06:57 PM
Well I had used my credit card to get other things. Snow blower and salter wich didn't max my card but it put higher to where I couldn't just charge the mower. As far as the payments depending on the credit cards they have 21% or 13.9% or whatever. But if you have a mininum payment of 35.00 a month and only pay that amount you could be paying for ever. *With a loan that I chose I know my mower no matter whatt will be paid off in 24months. If I chose to pay it that way.

This is my first time ever using Sheffield Finincial but I have seen others go this route and I haven't heard any complaints and there is no penalties for early pay off, and you can use them for almost anything from ATVS to Lawn mowers to Snow mobiles and trailers.

They also have better intrest rates if your credit is in top shape just gotta look into the programs they have for what you need. From what I see they have intrests from 0% for 12 months to 5.9% to 8.8% to 9.9% to 11.95% to 12.95% and 17.95% "

There must be a god because honestly I didn't think I would have gotten approved. My credit is good I just have to much of it and it hurting me this is why I am doing the lawn service to pay off debt and evantually not work for anyone but myself. I need to work at both places for now and I plan to go full time in Lawn Maintenance in a few years if not sooner.


Thanks Tony

Steve
01-17-2008, 07:56 PM
Tony,

This is great stuff!

For the reader that is considering going with sheffieldfinancial.com versus a bank what thoughts do you have on that?

Also is sheffieldfinancial.com offered through the dealer? Is this how you found them?

Nikon
01-17-2008, 08:22 PM
I guess it all depends on the banks what they can offer us. I know the bank I use is TCF and in order to be able to apply for a business line of credit you have to be in business for 2 years. So the people who are freshly starting may not be able to go through a bank under business line of credit.

This is where Sheffield Finincial comes in, and yes this is offerd at 99% of the dealers in the surrounding area's that I live in. Metro Detroit Michigan Area.

You can also apply online for applications and Sheffield Finincial will ask for the selling dealer to copy and fax over a bill of sale and drivers license for approval.

They also send the loan amount check to the dealer to be signed by the person getting the equipment. Atleast thats what they told me today what they are going to do.

Wich takes a few weeks so if your going to do it this way make sure your a few weeks before the season starts so your not delayed or renting a lawn mower to get started.

Steve
01-17-2008, 08:27 PM
Ohhh very interesting!

So the dealer handles this.

Do other dealers offer in house financing or is this basically the in house financing?

Nikon
01-17-2008, 08:37 PM
That depends on the dealer. You can use sheffield finincial or apply for credit line giving out by the store. Now as for as I know the place I bought my mower from uses both. That person applying would have to have good credit great refernces and will probably have to be in good standing or a very well known company something thats been around for a number of years. Where I work we have something called A/R accounts wich people can come in rent and get billed monthly and they allow some purchases on these accounts but unless the person has been with us and in good standing probably not going to finance a mower or something in great cost. I think dealers prefer doing outside fininancing for pruchases so just incase they don't get stiffed on the sale.

But then again there are legal procedurs ect ect.
Also if your looking to build up your credit your better off using a credit card or a finincial compnay / bank.

Nikon
01-31-2008, 12:30 PM
There you go guys it was a long wait and now I have my new lawn mower on display its the begining of a new life.


Thanks a bunch to AMW SIGNS for creating my awesume logo.

Tony Artan

Steve
01-31-2008, 01:05 PM
Tony,

That is awesome news! Don't forget to post some pictures!

Nikon
01-31-2008, 01:49 PM
The photos are posted in the very first portion of the forum scroll down I just bunched up all the photos.



Tony Artan

Steve
01-31-2008, 01:51 PM
Did I totally miss them? Or did you just add them! WOW I love the stickers! That is fantastic!

Tony whats been your review of the mower so far? How does it compare to others? I'd love to talk about this on the GopherHaul show.

Nikon
01-31-2008, 03:07 PM
So far I ran up and down my drive it has dual izt transmissions and response is pretty nice. I used it to get the feel of it and the hydro really work well, it has an EASY netural lever at the bottom that engauges from PARK BRAKE / TO DRIVE / TO NETURAL so that comes in handy and its easy accessible my mower has 15HP kaw. on it and it seems to start every pull. Even though it has .03 hours on it .. The controls are easy to use much better then the Ferris that I was going to get. I was impressed that it was very simple to go from forward and reverse. This is my first hydro ran mower I was used to the belt drive compared to that its 100% easier on the arms. The controls are probably basic as any mower forward is pretty much letting the handles drop and pulling up on the handles gives you reverse. I only played with the mower for about 10min so that is my report as of now . Over all I am happy with the quality and the performance when I saw the demo of it at the shop today when the owner full throtled and ran it with the blades it sounded like a very powerfull mower.


If you have any questions let me know =)


Thanks Tony Artan

Steve
01-31-2008, 03:57 PM
What do you ultimately think got you to buy this one over others? Was price the big point? Or was there more to it?

All Aspects Landscaping
01-31-2008, 04:45 PM
heres on of our maintenance trucks...

All Aspects Landscaping
01-31-2008, 04:50 PM
sorry guys... having trouble loading the image!!

Nikon
01-31-2008, 08:35 PM
Purchase of the mower was part price and part that we rent them at the shop and they held up well being rented out to many customers god knows that some people don't take care of property that isn't there's and this forth proved to me that this particular mower brand yazoo/kees withheld the abuse and worked very well.


Over all they work well rarley any complaints on the mowers that we rented we do have a 5 year old 48" belt drive mower that is still around.


Thanks Tony Artan

Steve
02-01-2008, 08:41 AM
Quote[/b] ]sorry guys... having trouble loading the image!!

James, the image was probably too big. Can you try to resize it to about 600 pixel width?

Quote[/b] ]we rent them at the shop

Tony,

How long have you rented them at the shop for? What brand did they replace? Do you know why your shop ultimately switched to them?

Nikon
02-01-2008, 10:29 PM
We have always carried the yazoo/kees brand mower at the rental shop. As far as I know they really didn't have much of a reason why they have this brand but between all the competition out there xmark, ferris, scag, bobcat and dixie choppers, ect ect they are all good commericial mowers.

Its just a path they chose and stuck with over the years.
We just got a new 61" rider zero turn Max 2 from them. They are not cheap mowers to find out they retail around 8900.00 to 9200.00 depending on certain promotions.

I hope this helps you



Thank You

Tony Artan

Steve
02-02-2008, 06:35 AM
Tony,

Do you know anything about where they are made? I am guessing you bought them from a local dealer or is the manufacturer nearby?

Nikon
02-02-2008, 06:26 PM
your best bet is to goto yazookees.com and go under about us and look up Yazoo Kees History

they have a new facility in beatrice,nebraska


they are american made and been around for many years.


thank you tony artan

copied for a quick info on this:


In 1976, F.D. Kees entered the commercial mower market with a 21 inch steel deck mower. This unit was side-discharge, came complete with a grass collector, and was loved by the rental market. In 1977, the 36-inch and 48-inch intermediate walk-behind mowers were introduced and established the Kees brand as a leader in the market. In 1986, Kees created its firs 60-inch rider by adding a two point hitch and sulky. In the early 90's, F.D. Kees focused its efforts on the commercial mowing market and grew the business significantly.

Steve
02-03-2008, 08:09 AM
I gotta check that out thanks! The name sounds like it's foreign made for some reason.