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musician/lawnman
02-20-2008, 05:57 PM
Here is the 1st one I started using. * Designed the form myself.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii25/jacksomebody/AAAContractform.jpg

I later added *# of cuts per year with breakdown month by month. *I found doing it this was I could multiply my per cut rate by # of cuts & divide by 12 to have a more affordable monthly rate. *

In this form I also removed the early cancelation penalty I had included on the 1st one. *Now just states "continues inforce as long as both parties are satisfied / 30 day cacellation in writting....
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii25/jacksomebody/AAAContractform-alternate.jpg

What do you guys think of these? *
Are the changes I made for the better or worse?
I also wonder ifI have too many disclaimers, May scare some off..... *?

Thanks guys! * http://www.gophergraphics.com/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/yourock.gif

Steve
02-20-2008, 05:59 PM
Hi Chuck,

Did you look through any of the free contracts we have here to see which sections you like and which you don't?

musician/lawnman
02-20-2008, 06:06 PM
I did, Some seem pretty nice but I don't like the words

LAWN CARE CONTRACT
Across the top seems to scare the crap out of folks, I like the ones I came up with for the most part. This forum is incredibly useful & I figured I would bounce them off you guys to see if there is either a " fatal flaw" in them that might be keeping me from landing more monthly accounts or if I'm missing any vital information from them

ritchiem
02-20-2008, 06:25 PM
Quote[/b] ]Some seem pretty nice but I don't like the words

Ya...words are for chumps http://www.gophergraphics.com/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif LOL sorry...I just needed a laugh.

I think they are pretty good. I like the way you worded them as well. I have always found it good to attach a list of services pertaining to the contract detailing the items.

All in all nice job

Steve
02-20-2008, 07:07 PM
Chuck,

I have talked to the business owners who gave me the contracts to share them with you. Here is the common theme. The longer you are in business, the more you get burned and the longer your contracts get. Why? Because you add more and more things to it that a previous customer burned you on.

If you are happy with what you have now, then roll with it and see how it goes. If you want to scale up the contracts in the future, you can always use some of the longer ones.

It's really interesting to read through them because it gives you a heads up on how customers can burn you and it keeps you aware. Which is a good thing.

Steve
02-20-2008, 07:12 PM
Also as I was reading through this contract, I was wondering, do you offer a yard dog cleanup service?

Instead of charging $5 for equipment cleanup, why not offer the service in the yard as an upsell. How much would it cost to provide this service? Is it worth it to you?

musician/lawnman
02-20-2008, 08:20 PM
I suppose I could do that & charge to clean the yard, I don't know maybe you could add $3 per cut if the yard isn't cleaned up. But then again.... cleaning up dog poop all the time would mean I'd have to carry a pooper scooper & that would literally make my enclosed trailer smell like Sh*t. Though I suppose crap in the mowers tires does the same!

& the statement was I don't like the words "lawn care contract"..... But that is pretty funny I guess I can see how you interpreted it that way. http://www.gophergraphics.com/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Steve
02-20-2008, 08:23 PM
I was checking around for different dog clean up prices and found this.

Would $50 a month extra for a dog make it worthwhile to you?

You could also mount the scooper outside of the trailer and leave the dog doo on site in a bag.

musician/lawnman
02-20-2008, 08:28 PM
WOW! THAT IS SOME EXPENSIVE POOP!
I QUIT CUTTING GRASS, I'M A PROFFESIONAL POOP SCOOPER NOW.

new company name:

AAA QUALITY CLEAN POOP http://www.gophergraphics.com/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Steve
02-20-2008, 09:52 PM
This is something no one wants to do, therefore, there is money to be made with it.

Could you see yourself offering these services? Would it fit in as an upsell?

Or would you just rather not?

KimKriel
02-20-2008, 10:18 PM
I agree that you should have their specific services you are providing on your contract. It helps keeping everything clear for both of you. Perhaps a little harder for them to come back with a service they want that you did not quote. I would also add a place for your signature by the customers as it seems more professional if you've signed it also. I like your valid date added to contract.

musician/lawnman
02-20-2008, 11:53 PM
Quote[/b] (KimKriel @ Feb. 20 2008,11:18)]I agree that you should have their specific services you are providing on your contract. *It helps keeping everything clear for both of you. Perhaps a little harder for them to come back with a service they want that you did not quote. *I would also add a place for your signature by the customers as it seems more professional if you've signed it also. *I like your valid date added to contract.
Thanks Everybody,
KimKriel - That's a valid point I should add a line for my signature. *& the valid if accepted within 30 days is a spin off from the estimates I did as a construction estimator/ salesman. *1) you never know, the situation could change & make that price void *& 2) creates a subtle sense of urgency to buy.

I think I wouldn't have a direct objection to offering a doggy curbing service ( cleaning up after them not making curbing out of them, hehe) *either way if it's in the yard ya gotta deal with it either directly or getting it off your mowers tires. *Not to mention.... *
*In rainy season down here the grass is almost always wet.... * even on a dry day, there's enough moisture in the soil profile that when you cut it, it's wet. *I run a 52" yazoo/kees with a mulch kit on it. *I have to clean out the underside of the deck & shovel that prechewed lawn salad into a garbage pail 3-4 times a day for half the year..... *I hate knowing I've run over a ton of dog crap as I'm cleaning the deck..... http://www.gophergraphics.com/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

I don't know if the market would really bear that kind of price though? $50 a month? Think about it.... I got $10,000 in a equipment for lawn care + truck + ins + fuel etc. to be able to charge $80-100 / month for my service. I don't think many (if any) would pay $50 a month for a schmuck with a shovel!?