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LawnCareMan280
12-31-2012, 08:16 PM
Well last week friday it was snowing and I asked my neighbor if I can clear the snow and he said yes. so when I went across the street to clear more snow I came back to clear my neighbor's drive and the compettitor was plowing it? I don't get it he didn't ask and I did so why did he steal my account? I've tried to tell him peoples driveways I clear are mine but he didn't listen so do I dump this account and say you win you can have it or what do i do? Please post here

turf&tree
01-01-2013, 07:04 AM
We have these things called contracts that eliminate those problems.

ringahding1
01-01-2013, 08:07 AM
Did he really steal it? Or did your neighbor forget he hired another guy also?

The Cleaning Doctor
01-01-2013, 11:01 AM
Travis, you have to expect this. Especially taking your age into account. I take it that this guy was plowing so he was at least 16 but in reality probably much older than that.

See I can get you off a place on the insurance alone. It is not that you can not do it, it is the fact that if you get hurt they are legally and financially responsible. You don't think your parents would sue someone's insurance company when the hospital bills are piling up?

You are very ambitious for a kid your age but you have to face the facts here. You are 12 and you still have a lot of growing up to do. I suggest that you quit trying to do everything and go to the library and start reading.

Learn how to operate a business, learn how the financials work, learn learn learn. A contract would not help you on the snow removal because legally you can not enter into a contract because you are not of age. These are all things that you need to be aware of BEFORE getting into business of which you can not legally be in because of your age.

Do yourself a favor and be a kid while you can. Responsibilities will come along soon enough and they will last the rest of your life. Take this time to learn and not beat your head against the wall because someone takes your account.

LawnCareMan280
01-01-2013, 11:53 AM
Did he really steal it? Or did your neighbor forget he hired another guy also?

The neighbor hired me and I did it. Come back across the street he is there WTF?

dpld
01-01-2013, 12:19 PM
The neighbor hired me and I did it. Come back across the street he is there WTF?


maybe your neighbor hired this guy at a earlier time and did not have the balls to say no to you when you asked and did not have the balls to tell the dude he was gonna use you instead.

in the future you need to issue contracts to show people you mean business as well as maybe you need to look for work on other streets in your neighborhood because my #1 rule is i don't work for neighbors, it always cause problems as well as you got to live next to these people and when something like this happens it makes things awkward.

LawnCareMan280
01-01-2013, 01:20 PM
maybe your neighbor hired this guy at a earlier time and did not have the balls to say no to you when you asked and did not have the balls to tell the dude he was gonna use you instead.

in the future you need to issue contracts to show people you mean business as well as maybe you need to look for work on other streets in your neighborhood because my #1 rule is i don't work for neighbors, it always cause problems as well as you got to live next to these people and when something like this happens it makes things awkward.

I know it does sound wierd because I live right next to the competitor:mad: we have big fights all the time on who gets what. Wish I took all his buisness so he could move then I can be the lawn care man. He might have hired him too so that might of happened.

Steve
01-01-2013, 02:45 PM
Travis,

You may find, with the snow shoveling, the easiest way to do it is to ask your neighbors if they need their driveway shoveled. If they say yes, shovel it, get paid on the spot, and go on to the next one.

Cashin H&P
01-01-2013, 03:16 PM
I know it does sound wierd because I live right next to the competitor:mad: we have big fights all the time on who gets what. Wish I took all his buisness so he could move then I can be the lawn care man. He might have hired him too so that might of happened.

Seriously, you have huge fights with you competer? You are probably not even in the same ball park as your "competer" he probably has a real buisness and is not just some kid playing.

You need to understand that your not a legit buisness, there fore you can not act like one. Im sorry if that hurts your feelings but its true.

shibby53022
01-08-2013, 06:57 PM
I agree with all these posts but even if you are not a so called legit business or not you can still get your guaranteed work. I personally have been in business since the 90's and learned the hard way to never touch a property that isn't under contract. You have a contract to specify what and when you will do it. If my company shows up and there driveway has been shoveled, we put a smile on our face, free money! When we send out an invoice sure they get mad and contest it, but we send them a copy of the contract highlighted and show them they are financially liable. Usually we will work with them and tell them that we will take that charge off but this time and this time only. You would be surprised on how many times we see that there driveway is never touched again. We also had a big problem with neighbor's helping neighbor's is what I like to call it. Where our residential market our clients neighbor quick snowblows there driveway in the littler snowfalls. When we show up they laugh and say there neighbor snowblowed it to help them out, we either drop the blade anyway and tell them your under contract or have our office bill them anyway. Then when there neighbor comes to blow it again our customer will stop them and tell them not to that they are going to get charged for it one way or the other. It stops the b.s on both ends, so I can not stress on how important it is not doing work unless your under contract.

So to answer your question do one of two things, A. do as the administration of this site said to do, demand payment when the services are complete or preferably in my opinion do payment in advance to stop your competitor. I would go a step further and offer your neighbor a sweet deal on a seasonal price and get paid in advance that way when your competitor shows up to plow your neighbors driveway you can laugh at him under your breath and say thanks.

B. I don't know your age but if your 18 or above you can be independent as that is all a sole proprietor is doing. A sole proprietor is a business in his first or last name and doing business as(insert name here) My point to this is that you could still draft up a contract in your name to agree to do work for john doe and it would be legal binding as long as your 18 and above. But as you grow I would recommend starting a corporation to help insure you from losing everything personal. This should help you.

Cashin H&P
01-08-2013, 08:22 PM
I agree with all these posts but even if you are not a so called legit business or not you can still get your guaranteed work. I personally have been in business since the 90's and learned the hard way to never touch a property that isn't under contract. You have a contract to specify what and when you will do it. If my company shows up and there driveway has been shoveled, we put a smile on our face, free money! When we send out an invoice sure they get mad and contest it, but we send them a copy of the contract highlighted and show them they are financially liable. Usually we will work with them and tell them that we will take that charge off but this time and this time only. You would be surprised on how many times we see that there driveway is never touched again. We also had a big problem with neighbor's helping neighbor's is what I like to call it. Where our residential market our clients neighbor quick snowblows there driveway in the littler snowfalls. When we show up they laugh and say there neighbor snowblowed it to help them out, we either drop the blade anyway and tell them your under contract or have our office bill them anyway. Then when there neighbor comes to blow it again our customer will stop them and tell them not to that they are going to get charged for it one way or the other. It stops the b.s on both ends, so I can not stress on how important it is not doing work unless your under contract.

So to answer your question do one of two things, A. do as the administration of this site said to do, demand payment when the services are complete or preferably in my opinion do payment in advance to stop your competitor. I would go a step further and offer your neighbor a sweet deal on a seasonal price and get paid in advance that way when your competitor shows up to plow your neighbors driveway you can laugh at him under your breath and say thanks.

B. I don't know your age but if your 18 or above you can be independent as that is all a sole proprietor is doing. A sole proprietor is a business in his first or last name and doing business as(insert name here) My point to this is that you could still draft up a contract in your name to agree to do work for john doe and it would be legal binding as long as your 18 and above. But as you grow I would recommend starting a corporation to help insure you from losing everything personal. This should help you.

I see your new here, Lawncareman is 12. He also thinks he is the best lanscaper on the plante. I personaly do not take anything he says seriously.

SECTLANDSCAPING
01-08-2013, 09:57 PM
I see your new here, Lawncareman is 12. He also thinks he is the biggest, best and cheapest, landscaper on the planet. I personally do not take anything he says seriously.

I had to edit that for you.

shibby53022
01-09-2013, 11:31 AM
haha okay thanks for the info, I am new here just signed up yesterday. 12 years old he shouldn't even be in here chatting. Study all you can with your school work and worry about stealing accounts later in life lol.

Tricountylawn
01-09-2013, 04:13 PM
Haha....dont work for your neighbors.