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xandrew245x
08-08-2012, 02:22 PM
Let me start out by saying, when my fiance first said about going to look at these cars I'm thinking "what the f**k, they look so stupid"

Well we got there, and the sales person told all about them, and we test drove it... and wow all I have to say is the sales person was right when he said "they are one of the most fun cars you will ever drive"

5 speed manual, sport mode button, traction control button, loads of features including a bose sound system, and it also looks pretty sharp with the upgraded rims and painted calipers. All for less than $18,000.

Best of all 30mpg city 38mpg highway.

Sprinkler Buddy
08-08-2012, 03:14 PM
Your going to need a bigger boat when the kids come. :-)

xandrew245x
08-08-2012, 03:22 PM
Haha yeah, there shouldn't be any kids until this car is paid off...hopefully

Grass Doctor
08-08-2012, 03:23 PM
my mom has one of those little cars, she is always hitting stuff or should i say crashing the other day a new truck ram her in the front in a parking lot will u believe that the truck had more damage than the little fooockerrr, fiat 500 its a small though little foocker.

i will never drive some like that though

xandrew245x
08-08-2012, 03:42 PM
I thought the same thing, could never picture myself in one, but I love it now. I really want to go buy a fiat 500 abarth now.

CHEESE2009
08-08-2012, 03:51 PM
I like to drive really close to cars like that.

Steve
08-08-2012, 04:22 PM
That looks fun! How many airbags do they come with?

xandrew245x
08-08-2012, 04:36 PM
Too many airbags to count, even come with a knee airbag that isn't even standard on cars yet.

LawnBoy0311
08-08-2012, 06:28 PM
if you ever break down, give me a call. we can lift it up into my truck bed.


it's actually not a bad price...I figured they would be more $$

xandrew245x
08-08-2012, 06:33 PM
if you ever break down, give me a call. we can lift it up into my truck bed.


it's actually not a bad price...I figured they would be more $$

Lol okay.

They actually start at 15900. The abarths which are 160hp turboed versions start at around 23,900

bruces
08-08-2012, 07:21 PM
those used to be $29.99 when sears sold them with the little tykes labels .

The Cleaning Doctor
08-08-2012, 07:39 PM
those used to be $29.99 when sears sold them with the little tykes labels .

That was Fisher Price, Little Tykes was $49.95...:eek:

To the OP....

Dude do you know what the major cause of divorce is? Money problems! You just bought an 18k car with someone that you are not even married to yet. All I am going to say is keep your day job as long as you can.

By the way that car is not 18k by the time you pay it off, it is closer to 30k if not more.

Those kinds of cars make me want to pick them up and push them a couple of times to get them wound up before I let them go down the road.

Do you realize that the Model A got 20 mpg and you are crowing about 30 mpg? After 100 years we still can not do much better than a Model A. Wait until you have to climb a long steep hill before you make a final decision. Nothing like having a V8 under the hood.

CHEESE2009
08-08-2012, 08:30 PM
I want to drive an 18 wheel rig on backroads to cut grass...

would be cool.

Hedgemaster
08-08-2012, 08:32 PM
The price of cars these days makes me nauseous.

18 grand for a quarter of a car? LOL!

We're still driving the Cavalier Rally Sport that we bought new in 1997 for $12,000. I thought THAT was too much!
Twelve grand over fifteen years works out to be a pretty good value though.



As far as micro machines go, those are the best looking ones I've seen.
You'll be turning the heads of guys wearing skinny jeans everywhere you go!

:D

:p

;)

bennyhill18201
08-08-2012, 09:54 PM
Tell the truth you wanted that car cause you watched the commercial on tv and wanted that girl to ruff you up too :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpi2IAec9Ho

LawnBoy0311
08-09-2012, 04:16 AM
That was Fisher Price, Little Tykes was $49.95...:eek:

To the OP....

Dude do you know what the major cause of divorce is? Money problems! You just bought an 18k car with someone that you are not even married to yet. All I am going to say is keep your day job as long as you can.

By the way that car is not 18k by the time you pay it off, it is closer to 30k if not more.

Those kinds of cars make me want to pick them up and push them a couple of times to get them wound up before I let them go down the road.

Do you realize that the Model A got 20 mpg and you are crowing about 30 mpg? After 100 years we still can not do much better than a Model A. Wait until you have to climb a long steep hill before you make a final decision. Nothing like having a V8 under the hood.

18K now and 30K when its paid off???? If thats what your accountant tells you, you may want to part ways with him. Even at 4 years 10% interest paid is under 4K. As for a Model A, could you let us all know where we can find a new one? I'm sure inquiring minds would love to have a 100 year old car with 20 mpg. I bet you still think the Pontiac Fiero is a cool sports car.

xandrew245x
08-09-2012, 06:26 AM
Tell the truth you wanted that car cause you watched the commercial on tv and wanted that girl to ruff you up too :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpi2IAec9Ho


Ahahaha, I wouldn't mind that!


We are getting married in less than a month, the car was 0 down 0% interest rate for 60 months. We had plenty of room in our budget for a new car, this is the first car payment Ive ever had, all my other vehicles were payed in cash up front.

The absolute only reason I bought it was because of the 0% financing, to good of a deal to pass up. How can you beat $350 a month for a brand new car, I know my sisters car payment was over $500 a month.

xandrew245x
08-09-2012, 06:28 AM
Is there enough room in the back seat to throw the leg if the need arises??:eek:


Lol, actually there is a lot of room in the back, it has a pretty decent sized truck space, then if you fold the seats down, you have a whole lot more space. Me my fiance and two of my friends went to the movies in it the other night, my friends sat in the back seat and they said it was actually pretty comfortable and there was enough leg room.

xandrew245x
08-09-2012, 06:40 AM
$350 a month for 5 years = 21,000. Its a cool little car. I never feel quite right driving those little cars. Im 6-3 though. Im sure its pretty fun to drive though. Probably handles really good. Honestly for new cars I like to lease. Unless you drive a ton of miles its a good deal. You have it for 3 years then get a new one. Id never do this with a work truck obviously but a personal vehicle it works great. I mean a lot of people keep a new car for like 3-4 years and trade it in, so theres not a huge difference. Anyway congrats on the new car.

Thanks man.

I have always had a thing for little cars, my first car was a Mitsubishi eclipse(absolute junk in my book), I bought a Mitsubishi 3000gt, I still have it but i'm looking to sell it now, I really don't need it anymore. I do have a chevy s-10 I love it, but I hate its horrible gas mileage.

I thought about leasing, but were planning on keeping this car as long as possible, so buying it was the smarter choice. Who knows, my financial outlook my completely change 3 years from now.

I'm about 5-11 to 6' havent been measured in a while, and I fit quite well in that little car, now my 3000gt on the other hand...quite a task to get in and out of.

I think the total came out to be a little over 21k because we bought gap insurance, and an extra warranty for the car, so all that added up after tax and tags, I think it came to be around 21k. The price before tax and tag i think was 18k because we went with the model above the base model.

bruces
08-09-2012, 09:30 AM
hopefully fiat "Fix It Again Tony " doesnt just pack up and leave you holding the bag on a complete pile of dung like they did in 1979-80 .My first car was a 1979 fiat spyder convertible ,with only 5000 original miles ,a blown headgasket ,and no dealer support to repair it .Fortunately,I worked at one of the former dealers who had some parts in stock so I was able to repair mine ,while many many others brought their pretty new cars in for scrap .That car was nothing but trouble,and caught fire and burnt with less than 20,000 miles on the clock .I paid $950.00 for the car which was a year old and hadnt made it to its second oil change when I bought it .

The Cleaning Doctor
08-09-2012, 09:38 AM
How can you beat $350 a month for a brand new car

How about 5k for a used car that will last the same amount of time? If you really believe that you are paying 0%, I have some beach property to sell you in Colorado. They do not loan money and make nothing on it. It is a freaking gimick that people keep falling for. Now that it is added to the principal, you are responsible for it all. Including their profit. If you should default on a normal loan, then you are only responsible for the principal and the interest is not guaranteed to the lender.

Basically what you have done is taken non guaranteed interest (if you paid it off early) and converted it to principal and that is guaranteed by you.

You guys want to make money and have money you have to do the same things that those that have it do.

Are you aware that Sam Walton drove a 1969 Chevy pickup till the day he died? For those that are not aware, Sam Walton was the founder of WalMart.

Even you guys that replace trucks all the time, you are wasting money. You say it is a tax write off? Well good for you, so you will spend say 10k on a truck just to keep from sending Uncle Sam 3k. It does not make sense. 3k is what you would have paid in a 30% tax bracket. So you are left with 7k in hand. When the repair exceeds the value, then it is time to replace but stay away from new.

At the end of the day, you will end up with a 20k dollar beer can.

I bet you still think the Pontiac Fiero is a cool sports car.

Don't knock on Pontiac. They went under for a reason... LOL

xandrew245x
08-09-2012, 10:20 AM
hopefully fiat "Fix It Again Tony " doesnt just pack up and leave you holding the bag on a complete pile of dung like they did in 1979-80 .My first car was a 1979 fiat spyder convertible ,with only 5000 original miles ,a blown headgasket ,and no dealer support to repair it .Fortunately,I worked at one of the former dealers who had some parts in stock so I was able to repair mine ,while many many others brought their pretty new cars in for scrap .That car was nothing but trouble,and caught fire and burnt with less than 20,000 miles on the clock .I paid $950.00 for the car which was a year old and hadnt made it to its second oil change when I bought it .

First thing that ran through my head is "I hope they don't pack up and leave like they did before" I don't think that is going to happen again. The guy said they have sold over 150 fiats from just that locations since they opened in march of this year. The extra warranty we purchased is supposed to cover anything mechanical, but I know how they like to pull strings and not cover things when the time comes down to it. We will see though.

Thanks for your concern cleaning doctor. If I wanted a used car, I would buy a used car, and no I don't see how a 5,000 used car would last the same amount of time as a new car, cars don't last forever, and a 5,000 car is probably going to have about 150k miles on it, your not going to get much life out of that car without costly repairs.

I know I could have bought used, and I have done it in the past. I'm in the position to buy a new car, so I did.

The Cleaning Doctor
08-09-2012, 11:54 AM
I don't see how a 5,000 used car would last the same amount of time as a new car

That is a fantasy. With the proper maintenance cars will last. My truck is 30 years old and going strong. As far as costly repairs, you are going to have repairs on that car and I can put a whole lot of repairs into a car for 21k. I can drop 2 new engines and a transmission into a 5k car for that price.

It also depends on the car that you get. I have seen Subaru vehicles with over 300k miles and still going. You stated that you wanted a new car, well that is buying on emotion not logic. You need to buy what you need and not what you want.

Secondly, if you are not in a position where you can pay cash, you are not in a position to buy a new car. As a general rule of thumb, the value of your vehicles should be 1/4 or less of your annual income. Other wise you have too much money tied up into things that go down in value.

If you want to get ahead in life, you have to make the choices now because it is going to effect you for a long time to come. This society has been teaching that debt is ok but it is not. Just look at the state of the economy and the country right now. All of our troubles can be traced back to debt.

If you had instead put that payment away for 4 years you could have bought that car for less with cash. Years ago I bought my sister a truck this way. I walked into the dealer and bought a used truck for her. Sticker was $4,800 and I got it for $2,700. No, I did not know anyone at the dealership. I just gave them an offer of $2,600 all inclusive and was prepared to walk out. As a matter of fact I got up 3 times to leave before they came back with the $2,700 offer. She drove that truck for 14 years and it was already over 10 years old when I bought it so don't tell me that you can not get the life out of a used car.

I learned the hard way and over the last 25 years, I am still not up to the amount that I paid for that new car with the others that I have owned.

SECTLANDSCAPING
08-09-2012, 12:17 PM
That is a fantasy. With the proper maintenance cars will last. My truck is 30 years old and going strong. As far as costly repairs, you are going to have repairs on that car and I can put a whole lot of repairs into a car for 21k. I can drop 2 new engines and a transmission into a 5k car for that price.

It also depends on the car that you get. I have seen Subaru vehicles with over 300k miles and still going. You stated that you wanted a new car, well that is buying on emotion not logic. You need to buy what you need and not what you want.

Secondly, if you are not in a position where you can pay cash, you are not in a position to buy a new car. As a general rule of thumb, the value of your vehicles should be 1/4 or less of your annual income. Other wise you have too much money tied up into things that go down in value.

If you want to get ahead in life, you have to make the choices now because it is going to effect you for a long time to come. This society has been teaching that debt is ok but it is not. Just look at the state of the economy and the country right now. All of our troubles can be traced back to debt.

If you had instead put that payment away for 4 years you could have bought that car for less with cash. Years ago I bought my sister a truck this way. I walked into the dealer and bought a used truck for her. Sticker was $4,800 and I got it for $2,700. No, I did not know anyone at the dealership. I just gave them an offer of $2,600 all inclusive and was prepared to walk out. As a matter of fact I got up 3 times to leave before they came back with the $2,700 offer. She drove that truck for 14 years and it was already over 10 years old when I bought it so don't tell me that you can not get the life out of a used car.

I learned the hard way and over the last 25 years, I am still not up to the amount that I paid for that new car with the others that I have owned.
I have bought used everything. I tell people on here to get used commercial equipment but they opt for new residential.

I'm a firm believer if you dont have the cash to pay for it, you cant afford it. Theres to many variables with life.

You mention Subaru. I almost bought a 2003 forester with 134,000 miles for $1800 yesterday. I was hesitant because of how ugly it is and it sold before I made a decision. I ended up getting a 2002 4runner for $2200. I needed a awd family vehicle.

The last car I bought was 2000 civic coupe for $3000 with 125,000. I have 183,000 on that car and only replaced a exhaust pipe.

Work trucks are different because well work. I have 274,000 on my 2001 sliverado. I put a transmission in it this year. At the time I had to decide if it was worth it. After looking at truck prices. I fixed it for $1600.

xandrew245x
08-09-2012, 12:59 PM
I have to agree with you on subarus. They are incredible cars, i have seen some of them with well over 300k miles on them. I have never had very good luck with used cars. My first car was a 2002 eclipse, 100 and some thousand miles on it. Payed 6k for it, they went to check it out before giving it to me only to find it needed an engine rebuild, I had to wait over a month to just get my car. Okay cool, got pretty much a new engine, drove the car for a year and a half and the transmission went out.

The used car I have now is having engine problems and it has less than 90k miles on it still. I just have bad luck.

With the extra insurance I have on my new car I never have to pay for anything outside of general maintenance. It covers any parts that break, even including an engine replacement, according to the dealership that is.

If it was up to me, I would have went and bought a used subaru, but my better half really wanted a fiat, so I broke down this time and left her buy one.

I may or may not buy a new car in the future, like I said this is my first new car, so if this experience goes well, then possibly i will buy a new one.

The Cleaning Doctor
08-09-2012, 03:52 PM
Have you replaced the timing belt?

I do this all the time, I find a non running vehicle for a few hundred $$$ and 9 times out of 10 it is the timing belt on these little 4 bangers. If you replace them when the MFG says to you do not have issues with them.

xandrew245x
08-09-2012, 04:03 PM
Its a v6 dohc, I found the datecode on the timing belt a while back, it was manufactured in 2007, so the owner before me did know to replace the timing belt.

The problem is it doesn't want to start right. It turns over, and takes a while to actually start, it never did it before. I replaced the plugs and coils, last night I took the coils off the front bank of plugs and put them back on and it started right up, so i'm not sure if one maybe came loose, time will tell.

I hate to get rid of it, its a fun car too, but I don't need it anymore so I think i'm going to set it out for sale.

LawnBoy0311
08-10-2012, 06:31 AM
I've never understood the point of buy new, buy used, or lease. Everyone has something that works for them. I bought a new car once, it broke down 2 weeks to the day that I bought it. Then it spent 28 days in the shop. I've bought used too. I just bought a used 2011 F-150 with 400 miles on it. Still had the "new car smell". I also bought my wife a new jeep compass. It took FOREVER to talk her out of a mercedes!!! I have friends who have leased cars, but I never have. My feeling is, I want something reliable. Not a headache. I don't have the time or patience waiting on a car/truck to be fixed. In 3 or 4 years, my truck and my wife's care will be back at the dealership, and we will be getting new cars. And for anyone who pays cash for an old used car, good on you. I'd rather finance and know my car will run fine for a few years.

On the flip side, I couldn't justify monthly payments on a mower. I'd rather pay cash when the time comes. To contradict what I just said, I bought a new residential ZTR with a credit card. I got a lot of points from the credit card and got a $50 gift card from the points. I've had the mower for a month, and my credit card will be paid off next month. The reason I did this is because of the profit margin. The mower isn't going to take abuse, it's only me who drives it. It doesn't get too many hours, because I work a full time job. I'll finish this season strong, then go into next year with large profit margins. At that point I'll buy a commercial mower cash, depending on how my trusty Toro is doing.

To sum it all up, everyone has a personal preference on what they like/do. But in the end, we all run a business and we all try to be succesful at it. Some of us will make it, and some of us will fail. But we are all giving it 110%.

Congrats on your new Fiat, and enjoy it!

xandrew245x
08-10-2012, 06:39 AM
I've never understood the point of buy new, buy used, or lease. Everyone has something that works for them. I bought a new car once, it broke down 2 weeks to the day that I bought it. Then it spent 28 days in the shop. I've bought used too. I just bought a used 2011 F-150 with 400 miles on it. Still had the "new car smell". I also bought my wife a new jeep compass. It took FOREVER to talk her out of a mercedes!!! I have friends who have leased cars, but I never have. My feeling is, I want something reliable. Not a headache. I don't have the time or patience waiting on a car/truck to be fixed. In 3 or 4 years, my truck and my wife's care will be back at the dealership, and we will be getting new cars. And for anyone who pays cash for an old used car, good on you. I'd rather finance and know my car will run fine for a few years.

On the flip side, I couldn't justify monthly payments on a mower. I'd rather pay cash when the time comes. To contradict what I just said, I bought a new residential ZTR with a credit card. I got a lot of points from the credit card and got a $50 gift card from the points. I've had the mower for a month, and my credit card will be paid off next month. The reason I did this is because of the profit margin. The mower isn't going to take abuse, it's only me who drives it. It doesn't get too many hours, because I work a full time job. I'll finish this season strong, then go into next year with large profit margins. At that point I'll buy a commercial mower cash, depending on how my trusty Toro is doing.

To sum it all up, everyone has a personal preference on what they like/do. But in the end, we all run a business and we all try to be succesful at it. Some of us will make it, and some of us will fail. But we are all giving it 110%.

Congrats on your new Fiat, and enjoy it!

Well said.

This is my first new car, so I'm not sure how its going to go, it may be the most wonderful experience ever, or it may be awful. I have owned 3 used vehicles so far, and 2 out of the 3 I have had problems with. Fiat owns Chrysler, and a whole bunch of other car companies, so their dealership maintenance and work should be pretty fair priced. Another great thing is when you need maintenance done, they will come get your car for you and leave you a rental for the day then bring your car back, that is really nice.

The only cons I see to buy a new car is you have a payment every month and the car depreciates, but then you have a warranty, a brand spankin new car that you get to choose exactly what you want, and you know how it has been drive in the past.

Like you said, I really don't have a preference between used and new, I think some vehicles are okay to buy used like trucks and especially subarus :p

I think its mostly a gambling game when you buy used cars, you may get lucky and have no problems, our you may end up paying double the cars value in repairs. Truth be told, I will probably by my fair of new and used vehicles in my coming life, thats if I don't become a homeless bum:D

I just saw your edit: Thanks man! I think i am more excited about the car than my fiance is:p