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xandrew245x
07-15-2012, 03:29 PM
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Heres my equipment, I have a 5x10 trailer which I picked up for $1080 tax, tagged and delivered to me, couldn't have asked for a better deal. And theres my truck that makes it all possible.

I ordered a side rack for my trailer that will hold my trimmers, blower, cooler and spool of line. I also ordered door magnets for my truck.

SECTLANDSCAPING
07-15-2012, 03:48 PM
I have the same push mower and the aluminum commercial version. I love them!

I started with a S10 a few years back but sold it at the end of the season. Its just not meant for work. I beat it up pretty quick and it couldnt hold enough debris or tow for ****. I didnt want to put a plow on it either. I seen it done before but its not meant for that.

xandrew245x
07-15-2012, 03:58 PM
I have the same push mower and the aluminum commercial version. I love them!

I started with a S10 a few years back but sold it at the end of the season. Its just not meant for work. I beat it up pretty quick and it couldnt hold enough debris or tow for ****. I didnt want to put a plow on it either. I seen it done before but its not meant for that.

What model s10 did you have? Mine is the v6 with 4WD, it tows my trailer without you even knowing its there. I do plan on upgrading my truck if my business goes well, something with a long bed and a little more power.

xandrew245x
07-15-2012, 03:59 PM
Oh, and the s10 is my personal truck, I got it for free from my parents who beat the piss out of it at their business, so its already in rough shape, so I don't mind using it. ;P

SECTLANDSCAPING
07-15-2012, 04:10 PM
What model s10 did you have? Mine is the v6 with 4WD, it tows my trailer without you even knowing its there. I do plan on upgrading my truck if my business goes well, something with a long bed and a little more power.

Had the v6 4.3 and 4wd. I had a extended cab so I had a little bit bigger bed then you but not by much. Part of the reason it tows easy is your mower only ways 600-700 lbs and your trailer is light too. My mower is 1300 lbs and the trailer is around 900 lbs. The real weak point with that truck is the suspension the tires almost touched with a half ton in it.

xandrew245x
07-15-2012, 04:12 PM
Yeah, I made sure I kept my weight low, If I ever upgrade my mower, i'm probably going to need a new truck and possibly a new trailer. Out of curiosity what truck do you have now?

Hedgemaster
07-15-2012, 04:15 PM
Nice! Just imagine how many illegals you could cram in the back of that quad cab!

:D


Thanks for sharing. I always like to see other people's trailers with equipment to see how things fit. It gives me a better idea of what to look for next time around.

xandrew245x
07-15-2012, 04:22 PM
Nice! Just imagine how many illegals you could cram in the back of that quad cab!

Haha, that cracked me up. I usually don't take the wheelbarrow with me, but its full of scraps from around the house that I was cleaning up and i'm taking it to my parents business tomorrow to dump it on the giant compost pile we have going on there.

My trailer is a little unorganized now, but once I get my rack it will be so much better. Only problem is I have to pick the guard up to get it on my trailer, but not that big of a deal.

Hedgemaster
07-15-2012, 04:36 PM
I have to have the deck on my walk behind set at 3" or higher, or it catches at the top of the ramp when I load it.

Not a big deal because I generally leave it at 3" anyway, and I have a Ferris, so adjusting it takes seconds if I need to rather than the "spacer" system used on most walk behinds.

My trailer is the same brand in a 5x8 (and I have sides on it). I'd like to upgrade to a 12'.

xandrew245x
07-15-2012, 04:40 PM
I was going to buy a 5x8 but the guy was like hey we have a 5x10 on sale for only $50 for, so I jumped on that pretty quick.

I have to have my mower deck up or I catch the trailer as well too. Do I need to keep the rubber chute on my mower, or could I take it off? I know at my parents business, we took them off of all our mowers that we use to mow there.

wat5150
07-15-2012, 05:10 PM
Just use a rubber cord with a hook on each end.(Like a bungee cord) Just lift up your guard and hook one end to it. Hook the other end to your deck adjust handle. Thats what I do.

xandrew245x
07-15-2012, 05:22 PM
Thanks, sounds like a pretty good idea.

jrayb39667
07-15-2012, 06:59 PM
Just use a rubber cord with a hook on each end.(Like a bungee cord) Just lift up your guard and hook one end to it. Hook the other end to your deck adjust handle. Thats what I do.

if you do this, make sure if you're in an area with a lot of rocks / debris and close to a house to lower your chute to protect from breaking windows from thrown debris.

xandrew245x
07-15-2012, 07:13 PM
Yep, I just wanted something to hold it up when loading it, trying to steer with one hand is tricky, I tried using rubberbands but they ended up breaking.

CHEESE2009
07-15-2012, 08:05 PM
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/mad_insane/trailersetup.png


TIP:

Use a bungee cord like I do, to keep the chute up.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/mad_insane/bungee.png

Also, screw in a strip of wood to the floor of your trailer, to keep the tractor from moving. Works really well.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/2_By_4_Clue_Stick.jpg/220px-2_By_4_Clue_Stick.jpg


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Most importantly, be careful going up curbs with your tractor, it's the newer model and it's kind of sketch, but it's a beast.

xandrew245x
07-15-2012, 08:09 PM
What do you mean going up curbs?

My mower doesn't move to much on my trailer, but my push mower does, so I think i'll do the board method for that and hopefully it stays put.

CHEESE2009
07-15-2012, 08:18 PM
What do you mean going up curbs?

I have two of those tractors, one is the older model, and the new one is like yours. The new one has 'bigger' tires, but they also have no grip for climbing which is very upsetting for me.

For example, if you need to get onto a lawn from the street, normally you would press the tires against the curb, slowly, and expect the wheels to crawl on top the the curb, while the rear tires force their way up later on.

This tractor has a very tough time doing that, and you might lose control if the tractor decides to slide. :(

If you can avoid curbs, then this machine is still worth all the money in the world. Good job!

xandrew245x
07-15-2012, 08:31 PM
Thats good to hear! I don't think I will have to many jobs, if any that will involve curbs, and if there is, i'll find another way up.

I was looking at a john deere zero turn, but the toro had much better reviews and was cheaper, so it was a no brainer, its good to hear that its a good mower from someone else too!

Godslapper
07-15-2012, 10:38 PM
I must be doing something wrong. Maybe you guys can help me see the light.

I have 3 trucks 2 F-550 4x4 dump trucks with 7.3 turbo. and my small plow truck that really does everything. That's an F-250 4x4 with a dump insert.

I have these trucks because I can't seem to find customers that are ok with not bagging. In the spring it seems that I have to bag every one of them untill we get a drought. Some have dump spots but most don't. In may if I didn't bag the lawn would look like crap or I would have to go over it two or three times'. huge waste of time. In the fall I can fill my dump truck beds with leaves every day and I put very high sids on them.

What about mulch jobs ? I do about one to two hundred yards a season.

If I could figure out how to make money with out having to bag grass and leaves I would love it. Around here if I only took on customers that were cool with not bagging my drive time would be about half my day. Please tell me the secret.

Cheese is that little Toro what you use to mow with ? I'm at a compleat loss. In April I bought a new Toro for $ 12,000 bucks. Because I can't see how you could do what we do with anything less, but I guess I was wrong. Help me !

Hedgemaster
07-15-2012, 11:38 PM
^^^

Simple. Not everyone lives in the same place, uses the same equipment, or cuts the same types of lawns.

If I had to bag every lawn, I'd find something else to do because as a solo operator, it would take so much extra time it wouldn't be worthwhile.
Between stopping every two passes to empty a bag and dragging all of it to the truck, then driving it to the dump every other day, I just can't see how to make a profit considering people complain about prices the way they are now.

I bag in early spring on the lawns that truly need it, but for the most part, I mulch.

Godslapper
07-15-2012, 11:44 PM
^^^

Simple. Not everyone lives in the same place, uses the same equipment, or cuts the same types of lawns.

If I had to bag every lawn, I'd find something else to do because as a solo operator, it would take so much extra time it wouldn't be worthwhile.
Between stopping every two passes to empty a bag and dragging all of it to the truck, then driving it to the dump every other day, I just can't see how to make a profit considering people complain about prices the way they are now.

I bag in early spring on the lawns that truly need it, but for the most part, I mulch.

I guess you're right. Just can't get around it here, and the last time I was in PA the lawns looked the same as the ones in Troy NY.

Grass Doctor
07-15-2012, 11:50 PM
hey godslapper In April I bought a new Toro for $ 12,000 bucks. Because I can't see how you could do what we do with anything less, but I guess I was wrong.

thats a nice lawn mower can u shoot some pics of it, is it a grounds keeping mower or just a regular one, what kind of property's u take care off

SECTLANDSCAPING
07-16-2012, 12:06 AM
I guess you're right. Just can't get around it here, and the last time I was in PA the lawns looked the same as the ones in Troy NY.

I had a friend that bought a cub cadet residential mower. The first season he loved it and bragged. With the money he saved he bought another. The first mower didnt last 3 years and the second almost made it 4. He replaced 2 hydro pumps, a deck that bent, the handles broke, and a mess of other problems. He ended up buying a walker stander.

I bought a used Zmaster for $5200 and in the same amount time only replaced tires. Then I wanted another ZTR. I seen a bunch of the residential mowers for like $1000 so I tried a residential Ariens, Timecutter, and Husquarvana but they were all the same. I ended up buying a Great Dane and so far have had no problems.

Pretty much in the long run I spent way less then he did and never had a mower go down. There not that bad for small yards but when you start dealing with multiple acres they just dont cut it and they go about half the speed as a commercial mower. Anyone that ever used both should be able to tell its just a lawn tractor in a zero turn body. Its even made with the same parts.

As far as bagging I have people who wont pay extra for it until it starts to accumulate. Then they complain and I say well its this much more. What I do in early spring is bag one week and then mulch the next. This seems to keep it under control till late may when I dont need to bag at all.

Grass Doctor
07-16-2012, 12:24 AM
nice set up men,i have the same Honda, beautiful mowers and just buy a toro 42in mower around 25 days, it has improve my time 50% in big lawns (1/2 to 2 acre customers), i wish i could afford a trailer like that at this time, but for now i have to load the mower in to the back of my truck :eek: scary the other day my bro almost fell :D from the ramps. we have our acct together though. i thigh up a strap to the front (the light part of the mower i drove up and he hold it down while stay at top (tail gate) i can really see my self with a set up like yours.

thanks for the pics.

Godslapper
07-16-2012, 01:20 AM
hey godslapper In April I bought a new Toro for $ 12,000 bucks. Because I can't see how you could do what we do with anything less, but I guess I was wrong.

thats a nice lawn mower can u shoot some pics of it, is it a grounds keeping mower or just a regular one, what kind of property's u take care off

A 60 inch Z with bagger system was 10,500 at the dealer. I am paying almost 400 a month for it. It has a 3 year bumper to bumper. I mow with it for three years and sell it in the fourth year. If it cost 10 grand I really try to get at least 7 grand for it but will go down to 6 grand. That's about a grand or so per season and it's always in good shape.

My first Toro Z was a 52 inch with a bagger system. I drove the wheels off that thing. It was my main work horse for the first 5 years. After the 7th or 8th year I was putting 2 to 4 grand a year into it just to keep it running ok. I still have it but now it just mows the lawn at my house. Once in a while if we get behind I'll put it in the trailer. It has about 9,000 hours on it and still runs strong.

xandrew245x
07-16-2012, 06:03 AM
nice set up men,i have the same Honda, beautiful mowers and just buy a toro 42in mower around 25 days, it has improve my time 50% in big lawns (1/2 to 2 acre customers), i wish i could afford a trailer like that at this time, but for now i have to load the mower in to the back of my truck :eek: scary the other day my bro almost fell :D from the ramps. we have our acct together though. i thigh up a strap to the front (the light part of the mower i drove up and he hold it down while stay at top (tail gate) i can really see my self with a set up like yours.

thanks for the pics.

Thanks, I needed a trailer, my truck isn't big enough to put a mower in my bed.

I got a great deal on the trailer though, so I was pretty lucky with that, and the push mower my mom gave to me because she never uses it.

xandrew245x
07-16-2012, 06:11 AM
I guess you're right. Just can't get around it here, and the last time I was in PA the lawns looked the same as the ones in Troy NY.

I live in PA and I have never once bagged any grass I have mowed, and it always looks good. The only problem I have had is if its a little damp and gets clumpy sometimes.

Godslapper
07-16-2012, 08:46 AM
Most of the time when I'm trying to sell a job face to face the customer will ask if we bag it. I say only when we need to.

A few of my customers that are on the high end side. The ones that water every day and have True Green fert all the time and have the garden people and the pool people. You know the type. Just the thought of blowing grass clippings into their mulch is enough to give them a heart attack. lol.

In the spring I think you can save a lot of time if you just bag it. In the fall it's a great way to do fall clean ups. I don't even have a rake on my trucks.

xandrew245x
07-16-2012, 11:25 AM
I am going to need to buy a bagger for fall, all I have is a sweeper, I don't really want to spend 500 bucks on one, but I guess I have to.

krzys666
07-16-2012, 11:36 AM
I need to find a picture of my truck and trailer the second year i was in business. i had a 2 door blazer 4.3 v6 engine towing a 6.5 by 12 trailer with a john Deere ztr and a 48 inch bobcat.
my suspension and rear tires took a real beating.
i still have the blazer as a spare vehicle, with a new in house paint job.

i do not bag the grass but i do blow it off the grass. we use mulching blades and then ground blowers. it reduces the amount of grass pick up by about 80-90 percent.

xandrew245x
07-16-2012, 12:01 PM
I think i'm going to look for a bigger truck for next year, if this year goes well.

How do you all do your fall cleanups? I have a lawn sweeper, and was thinking of getting the mulch attachment for my lawn mower.

Then just drive over the leaves and mulch them and sweep them up. When the sweeper is full take it over and dump it on a tarp on the ground. When im done with the job, fold the tarp up and tie it, and throw it in the bed of my truck.

xandrew245x
07-17-2012, 07:30 PM
So you guys have seen my trailer set up, heres a question. I bought some tiedowns, i'm going to mount them at the wheels of my zero turn and then use a ratchet strap over the wheel to hold it down. To prevent from having to drill holes and then end up moving it later on I need an opinion.

If I ever get a bagger, which I probably will, I don't think it will fit on my trailer with my current set up. So what I was thinking I would probably have to move the zero turn to the front of the trailer and then the push mower in the back.

So Should I leave it the way it is now and put the tie downs on, or should I reconfigure it just in case I will have a bagger some day?

Opinions?

Grass Doctor
07-17-2012, 07:58 PM
why don't u try putting the toro all the way to the front and tight the red strap under need in the cross then tight it to the trailer the honda behind the toro put a bungee and tight to the side i rented a trailer an that's what i did phenomenal men

xandrew245x
07-17-2012, 08:06 PM
I need to do something to keep it from bouncing. When I hit a nasty bump I can see my mower lifting off the deck, that can't be good for it. Its possible though that if I move it to the front to where its not sitting over the axle, it might not bounce as much.

Grass Doctor
07-17-2012, 08:20 PM
yeah that's what i did under need, the front there is like a T where the decking attach or something very strong part, i just thigh up there that whats it no more bouncing

xandrew245x
07-17-2012, 08:34 PM
I don't have a problem with the front bouncing, and I think just tying it off there, the back would still be able to bounce, I don't know though.

Hedgemaster
07-17-2012, 08:35 PM
Odd. My trailer doesn't bounce much at all now that I have a 600 lb walk behind on it. When I was just hauling a push mower, I swear the tires left the ground when I hit a bump.

I put it all the way forward. The most important thing is securing it. With the front against the front of the trailer, forward/rearward movement is prevented by strapping the front down.
In order to prevent side to side movement, I attached a board to the floor which I place the right tire against when loading. I then use a strap that goes from the handle down to an eye bolt just off the floor. This provides a downward force as well as pulling it tight against the board the tire is resting against. The mower can't be pulled past the board and it can't move the other way either.

I know this likely has no bearing on how you set yours up, but thought I'd throw it out in case it may help you come up with an idea you hadn't considered before.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3321.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3316.jpg

I didn't have the straps on in these pics - I was in the process of planning the trailer. I later added a piece of 2x4 that the front wheel of the push mower rests against too. I just push it on until it hist the "stop", then strap it down across the front of the deck.

xandrew245x
07-17-2012, 08:56 PM
Its a good idea, but I could solve all of those problems with my solution. I am going to start parking my mower the whole way forwards on my trailer, that should help with the bouncing issue. If I use the mounts on the trailer and run straps on both the wheels it will keep it from moving forward, backwards side to side and up and down, well in theory it should, the hardest part is getting it line up when loading up lol.

xandrew245x
07-17-2012, 08:57 PM
Also, why on earth would you go with a curved shaft trimmer! Man those things kill my back!

Hedgemaster
07-17-2012, 10:01 PM
Also, why on earth would you go with a curved shaft trimmer! Man those things kill my back!


Huh? who, me?

That's not a curved shaft. (Stihl FS90R)

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3318.jpg


That's also not where I keep it. I was considering making a mount for it there, but I decided to just keep it in the truck instead.

CHEESE2009
07-18-2012, 02:54 AM
It drives me nuts when I see people with the same equipment, it hurts my brain because I keep thinking its mine, then I worry for a split second thinking I've been robbed. LOL

xandrew245x
07-18-2012, 06:27 AM
Huh? who, me?

That's not a curved shaft. (Stihl FS90R)

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3318.jpg


That's also not where I keep it. I was considering making a mount for it there, but I decided to just keep it in the truck instead.

haha, looked curved from the frst angle

xandrew245x
07-18-2012, 06:31 AM
Thats the exact trimmer i'm looking into buying. All I have right now is a craftsman that has a non feeding head...talking about being unproductive with that thing let me tell ya. It also vibrates so bad after 15 mins of use my hands are shaking.

What kind of walk behind is that, its a pretty nice mower. I'm considering getting one of those eventually, a smaller one that would take the place of my push mower for the most part.

xandrew245x
07-19-2012, 10:38 AM
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Theres my new layout wth my rack. Moved the mower forward the whole way, and now t seems lke have so much space on my traler.


BTW, one of my keys doesn't work on ths keyboard, can you guess whch one.

CHEESE2009
07-19-2012, 01:58 PM
BTW, one of my keys doesn't work on ths keyboard, can you guess whch one.

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I win all the gold.

Hedgemaster
07-19-2012, 02:55 PM
Thats the exact trimmer i'm looking into buying. All I have right now is a craftsman that has a non feeding head...talking about being unproductive with that thing let me tell ya. It also vibrates so bad after 15 mins of use my hands are shaking.

What kind of walk behind is that, its a pretty nice mower. I'm considering getting one of those eventually, a smaller one that would take the place of my push mower for the most part.

The difference between a commercial trimmer and a homeowner model is night and day.
I've been pleased with the FS90R. The ability to add attachments is a plus.

Here's the tread I started when my homeowner trimmer crapped out on me.
There's also info/pics of the two attachments I purchased for it...
http://www.gopherforum.com/showthread.php?t=12465&highlight=trimmer+advice


The walk behind is a Ferris 36" (dual hydro) Comfort Control DD. (as opposed to the single hydro model called a "Hydrocut")
Here's a thread on that as well:
http://www.gopherforum.com/showthread.php?t=15943&highlight=ferris+walk

xandrew245x
07-19-2012, 04:18 PM
Yeah we have a commercial echo trimmer at my parents business and I love that things. It so light, no vibrations and it has all the power needed, thought about stealing it. :P I'll use my crappy craftsman for the rest of the season.

bennyhill18201
07-31-2012, 12:47 PM
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Theres my new layout wth my rack. Moved the mower forward the whole way, and now t seems lke have so much space on my traler.


BTW, one of my keys doesn't work on ths keyboard, can you guess whch one.

You may want to keep the zero turn to the back of the trailer keep the weight over the axle ,I used to keep my mower up front.. It was harder to stop cause the weight and gave me a tiny bit of sway when there was some wind.. But that's just me how's it working out for you.

xandrew245x
07-31-2012, 09:12 PM
You may want to keep the zero turn to the back of the trailer keep the weight over the axle ,I used to keep my mower up front.. It was harder to stop cause the weight and gave me a tiny bit of sway when there was some wind.. But that's just me how's it working out for you.

Well, when I had it over the axle, I had so much trailer bounce and there was barley any weight on the hitch and it would cause the trailer to bounce up and down, I could feel it. I moved it forwards and it solved that problem entirely. Now its smooth sailing.

Its not a commercial mower, it only weights roughly 500 pounds.

I currently have it a far enough back to where my push mower sits sideways in front of it, and I think I have found a good balance, there is enough weight on the hitch, but not too much.

bennyhill18201
08-09-2012, 01:03 PM
As long as your happy nothing else matters..The setup looks good

xandrew245x
08-09-2012, 01:09 PM
As long as your happy nothing else matters..The setup looks good

Thanks man, I think I found the perfect balance the way i have it set up now, it tows great and there isn't very much weight on my hitch, I can still pick the trailer up off the hitch and roll it around :D

rbljack
08-17-2012, 10:42 PM
Thanks man, I think I found the perfect balance the way i have it set up now, it tows great and there isn't very much weight on my hitch, I can still pick the trailer up off the hitch and roll it around :D

I have one question about your set up. I noticed the trimmer racks are on the drivers side of the trailer. Would it be more efficient to reverse the layout and have the trimmer racks, trimmr, and gas cans along the passenger/curb side?

Just curious>>

xandrew245x
08-18-2012, 05:59 AM
I have one question about your set up. I noticed the trimmer racks are on the drivers side of the trailer. Would it be more efficient to reverse the layout and have the trimmer racks, trimmr, and gas cans along the passenger/curb side?

Just curious>>

I have never had to park along a curb, all the places I service I usually just back in the driveway.

I guess it would be smart to have it curb side if you were parking a long a curb a lot, but then again, in places like housing developments and such you could probably just pull in the other way so your driver side is to the curb.

I guess it is all on how you usually park your truck and trailer, I now a guy that parks his stuffy across the street in a little pull off, if his was on the passenger side, he would have to go the whole way around the trailer to get it.

I think it is just all personal preference, if your doing a lot of curb parking a long pretty busy streets, then I would say you probably should have it passenger side.