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willshome
04-18-2012, 08:49 PM
Should I buy a dump truck?
I am really thinking about upgrading so I can carry more and unload faster. I talked to my insurance that will about double and so will the paper work (tags,reg...)
any help thinking this throw is helpful

SECTLANDSCAPING
04-18-2012, 09:35 PM
Registration is killer.... Insurance shouldnt change much.

After owning a dump truck my vote is for dump trailer. Theres a few benefits that a truck doesnt have. It can carry more. It wont break down on you. Its easier to pull then carry.

willshome
04-19-2012, 06:51 AM
the problem I see with a trailer is how do I carry my mowers....

Apex Lawn & Landscape
04-19-2012, 12:01 PM
Don't get a dump trailer. I went from a dump trailer to a dump truck. With the truck, you can send a crew to mulch let's say, while you to mow...I couldn't do that with my trailer. I always had to get material drop it off, unhook the trailer , come back later when they were finished. Not to mention the extreme wear and tear on the transmission, my bri mar was heavy as hell alone. It sucks loading mowers into a dump trailer, Also , my dump truck has been my life saver... My mowing truck broke down and I've been pulling with her since Jan. Yes tags and registration are more but it's so worth it...and you can't really expand your business with a trailer

Al Kessinger
04-19-2012, 12:20 PM
Should I buy a dump truck?
I am really thinking about upgrading so I can carry more and unload faster. I talked to my insurance that will about double and so will the paper work (tags,reg...)
any help thinking this throw is helpful


Willshome have you thought about a 1ton truck with a dump bed insert? or even one with a flat bed dump with sides?

The insurance would have to be cheaper then a real dump truck and youd still have the ability to unload faster.

Steve
04-19-2012, 05:53 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the dump insert. In fact one of our members on here actually makes them.


Check this post out and see if it would help.

Dump kits for pick-up (http://www.gopherforum.com/showthread.php?t=7163)

http://www.stealthdumptrucks.com/cropup.jpg

Apex Lawn & Landscape
04-19-2012, 06:03 PM
Those are sweet. ^ but why waiste your money? Yeah it can hold some mulch but what if a customer wants to level his yard out and you need 1 ton + of topsoil!? I have a 2500hd and I tried putting a bucket of topsoil in the bed one time and it about busted the springs..I'm guessing that's what $3000? Why spend that kind of money ? Ya it can dump a few yards of mulch , you might save maybe a half hr versus doing it by hand but it doesn't hold much. That's my opinion and im not knocking it, because I think they're pretty cool just limited.

Al Kessinger
04-19-2012, 06:38 PM
watch this


<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Rd7tFLBYzYw" allowfullscreen="" width="420" frameborder="0" height="315"></iframe> (http://youtu.be/Rd7tFLBYzYw)

Apex Lawn & Landscape
04-19-2012, 06:52 PM
watch this


<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Rd7tFLBYzYw" allowfullscreen="" width="420" frameborder="0" height="315"></iframe> (http://youtu.be/Rd7tFLBYzYw)

Don't believe it...why didn't they show the actual material it dumped? If that was all dirt that z71 would be squatting royally!! And did you hear that truck crackin n squeakin! I know these modified beds aren't made to haul a lot but that's just my point

SECTLANDSCAPING
04-19-2012, 07:31 PM
Those are sweet. ^ but why waiste your money? Yeah it can hold some mulch but what if a customer wants to level his yard out and you need 1 ton + of topsoil!? I have a 2500hd and I tried putting a bucket of topsoil in the bed one time and it about busted the springs..I'm guessing that's what $3000? Why spend that kind of money ? Ya it can dump a few yards of mulch , you might save maybe a half hr versus doing it by hand but it doesn't hold much. That's my opinion and im not knocking it, because I think they're pretty cool just limited.

Thats why I say go with a trailer. My dually dump has a legal payload a little under 6000lbs. Which is pretty good but is still only 3 yards of wet compost or even less topsoil.

With a trailer you can carry 7000lbs and more depending on model. Its harder on a transmission to carry then it is to pull.

willshome
04-19-2012, 07:35 PM
I have talked to my insurance and any dump is the same cost I would just be paying for the GVW

I have a hand crank mat (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOADHANDLER-LH-2000-load-handler-truck-UNLOADER-/290698491824?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43aefaf7b0) that works great if you don't have one go to harbor freight well worth the $50 but I would like to carry more per trip
Video of loadhandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXMntA7n8Vk&feature=related)

Apex Lawn & Landscape
04-19-2012, 07:42 PM
I have no doubt that a trailer can haul a load, I know first hand theyre great...my point is that they arent as versitile as another truck, But I guess everyone has their different jobs & situations. Im still stickin to my guns though on them beatin up the trannys...I remember I always preffered hauling my dump trailer loaded! It was way worse empty lol! It was so rigid and bounced all over the place jerking my truck, my face was always tense .

Cashin H&P
04-19-2012, 08:57 PM
I have alos been thinking about a dump truck. I decided to go with a dump trailer that doubles as an equipment trailer. When I decide to get a tractor ill be able to move it around.

Liberty Landscaping LLC
04-20-2012, 03:24 PM
I have a F-350 diesel dually crew cab. I have a 8 ft ez dump in it. I haven't put anything in it but leaves and grass but it saves a lot of time. I haul my 24 ft enclosed trailer with it too. Hers a pic of it. Damn won't upload from my cell gallery. There is pics of it somewhere. Here is a link to it http://www.gopherforum.com/showthread.php?t=15173

StealthDumpTrucks
05-07-2012, 12:04 PM
Thanks for posting the link to my web site and the old video.

That load test was done in June 2004 using Serial number ONE of my patented dump kits. I installed the kit on my friends truck to check the fit and function. I had no control over how much weight he put in it, this was the first load it dumped, wasn't even broken in yet. Look at the springs, the axel is on it's travel bumpers. The old digital camera was limited to between 15 and 20 seconds of recording, so it didn't capture the empty ending.

That truck is still in service with no replacement/repair parts or bed damage.

Serial number 2 in June 2004 had improvements and is also still in service with the only repair part a $12 solinoid for the pump motor. I complained, so the pump manufacturer changed the specs to improve the pump.

All my kits come with a 36 month warranty because I stand behind my workmanship. I personally manufacture each part as if it was going on my own truck. When you call my phone number I answer it 24/7.

I can say "Building the best dump kits since 2003" because it's true. You can't buy a better underbody dump, it doesn't exist.

I bought my first dumping pickup in 1985. It had the Jet brand kit on it and I used it commercially until 1994 with no kit or bed problems other than rust and dents. Unfortunately, those kits don't fit '99-up short bed GM's, so I had to design my own. They still don't fit, and that will never change.

Even if they did fit, you'd lose your spare tire, hitch and bumper towing ability. With my kit you keep the bumper, hitch and spare tire.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Yc_2ozy06Ys" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

StealthDumpTrucks
05-07-2012, 12:08 PM
A short 10 minute unscripted video on what you get when you buy an all bolt on Ford dump kit. City of Boulder Colorado owns three with no complaints.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nsqTbl8_8Qc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Steve
05-07-2012, 09:20 PM
I love the functionality of it and the creativity in the design! Great job.

willshome
05-22-2012, 08:30 AM
<a href="http://s1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii549/willshome/?action=view&amp;current=120516_0000.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii549/willshome/120516_0000.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

got it last week and WOW makes life easy the bed is 7' wide and 9' long
1999 ram 3500 diesel auto 82k 4x4 9' fisher plow

WorkForMySelf
05-22-2012, 04:10 PM
<a href="http://s1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii549/willshome/?action=view&amp;current=120516_0000.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii549/willshome/120516_0000.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

got it last week and WOW makes life easy the bed is 7' wide and 9' long
1999 ram 3500 diesel auto 82k 4x4 9' fisher plow


wow that thing is my dream... There are alot of f350 dumps on craigslist around here from time to time and i hope to pick up one eventually for less than 5k

willshome
05-22-2012, 04:35 PM
wow that thing is my dream... There are alot of f350 dumps on craigslist around here from time to time and i hope to pick up one eventually for less than 5k
I was thinking around $5 but after looking @ 20 different trucks I found out most are not "used" but "used-up" and would cost a ton just to get road ready and time I don't have

SECTLANDSCAPING
05-22-2012, 04:43 PM
I was thinking around $5 but after looking @ 20 different trucks I found out most are not "used" but "used-up" and would cost a ton just to get road ready and time I don't have

yeah, you cant get a dump in even ok shape for less then 10k.