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SECTLANDSCAPING
03-30-2012, 08:06 PM
So I finished a 6 yards of compost, 12 yards of mulch, and a pressure wash today. When I bid I told the client it would 2 days.

Well I bought a kubota in the winter and didnt realize how fast it would speed up jobs. I was out of there in 4 hours.

I go to collect my money and the client ask since it took you less time is the bill less? Hell NO!

For anyone that doesnt know we charge a install fee per yard. I shouldnt be punished for being productive. I couldve sent 1 guy and had him there for a week.

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SECTLANDSCAPING
04-01-2012, 01:57 PM
I just finished a 15 yard mulch install in 3 1/2 hours. These nice people gave me a $275 tip.
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Cashin H&P
04-01-2012, 06:47 PM
If you dont mind me asking how much did that tractor cost? Im looking to buy one. Every thing looks awesome!

SECTLANDSCAPING
04-01-2012, 10:10 PM
If you dont mind me asking how much did that tractor cost? Im looking to buy one. Every thing looks awesome!

I paid $8500 with 900 hours on it. I been moving about 5 yards a hour. Its definitely productive. If you dont need the 4wd, you could pick up a older skid for half that with some shopping.

I been trying to find a mowing deck for it but so far no luck.

Steve
04-02-2012, 04:05 PM
Were these jobs all the same client?

I just finished a 15 yard mulch install in 3 1/2 hours.

That is fast! Did you have to remove the old mulch or did you just dump the fresh mulch on top?

With the ability to do jobs faster now, how will that effect your future bidding? Do you lower prices a bit because you can do it faster or do you keep them where they were?

Very interesting situation!

SECTLANDSCAPING
04-03-2012, 06:29 PM
Were these jobs all the same client? Two very different clients. One tipped at 15% the other thought they should pay less since we were done quicker then projected.


That is fast! Did you have to remove the old mulch or did you just dump the fresh mulch on top? No removal, there was some cleaning of the beds.

With the ability to do jobs faster now, how will that effect your future bidding? Do you lower prices a bit because you can do it faster or do you keep them where they were? I'm keeping them where there at. I did consider raising my prices by $5 a yard and selling that well finish the job the quickest. The way I see it if you lowered prices because your more efficient, what would be the point of being more productive? I do have to recoup my investment and be able to afford future equipment.

Steve
04-04-2012, 12:48 AM
That is great! It's also a lesson for everyone on how better equipment can help cut back on the need for more man hours to perform jobs!

CS-LawnService
04-04-2012, 04:16 AM
Two very different clients. One tipped at 15% the other thought they should pay less since we were done quicker then projected.


No removal, there was some cleaning of the beds.

I'm keeping them where there at. I did consider raising my prices by $5 a yard and selling that well finish the job the quickest. The way I see it if you lowered prices because your more efficient, what would be the point of being more productive? I do have to recoup my investment and be able to afford future equipment.

agree 100 percent .
you spent around 16,000 dollars for a tractor to make you more productive and the customer was happy with the job at the price you bid it to begin with,saving time is your benefit not theirs .

SECTLANDSCAPING
04-04-2012, 05:02 PM
I forgot to take pictures this time. The beds were worst then pictured and there was a few more that I missed.
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Steve
04-06-2012, 12:05 AM
What made you finally take the leap and buy that tractor?

Any advice for others considering it but not having done it yet?

SECTLANDSCAPING
04-20-2012, 05:17 PM
What made you finally take the leap and buy that tractor?

Any advice for others considering it but not having done it yet?

Having 4-5 guys pushing wheelbarrows for 8 hours.

Its a good investment. You can get a smaller tractor without the 4x4 if you dont plan on using it for snow but either way any loader will save time.

This spring clean up/ mulch install I did last year with 5 guys and it took 20 hours. I did it this year with 3 guys in 8 hours and did the plantings in the front. This frees up 2 days to make more money.

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SECTLANDSCAPING
04-27-2012, 04:51 PM
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Steve
04-27-2012, 08:40 PM
WOW those are great pics!

What's next on your wish list of equipment to get?

SECTLANDSCAPING
04-27-2012, 09:34 PM
WOW those are great pics!

What's next on your wish list of equipment to get?
Thanks Steve, tomorrow will bring me to 200 yards installed for the season.

I want a leaf loader. The bigger ones are kinda pricey for something that wont be used much. If there was access to use it on every property, or everyone wanted leaves removed and not blown into the woods. I wouldve bought it already.

The other thing thats cool is one of those hurricane blowers but again its only used when you can blow into the woods.


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Hmmm this seems to have a vacuum kit now.

Uh oh, I found my christmas present.

Steve
04-30-2012, 07:28 AM
That certainly looks like it would improve efficiencies!

Greg'slawnandlandscape
01-21-2013, 07:45 AM
I know this is an old thread but would time saved on mulch jobs be worth renting on for a day at 219

Cashin H&P
01-21-2013, 08:13 AM
I know this is an old thread but would time saved on mulch jobs be worth renting on for a day at 219

No, not unless your doing more then 20 yards in one day. 1 guy can do a yard an hour. If you get your mulch for lets say $27 a yard and you charge the customer $35 and you get $35 to spread that yard, your billing the customer $70 per yard. If your working by your self then you can usualy do 8-10 yards a day...billing out $700 (ish) $350 for mulch and $350 for labor.

If you were to add the $219 for the tractor that would push it to $919 and I dont think the customer will want to pay for that.

SECTLANDSCAPING
01-21-2013, 09:33 AM
I know this is an old thread but would time saved on mulch jobs be worth renting on for a day at 219

You only need it for bigger jobs. You could knock out 2 10 yard jobs in one day. So it really matters how busy you are in the spring.

I had a buddy that owned one before I bought mine. I would pay him $60 a hour. I found out I could get the jobs done in 1/3 of the time but my labor would be the same.

It almost comes down to do you want to pay 4 guys or 1 machine? Another thing is how far is the beds from the mulch pile? I have a few jobs that I would have to push a wheelbarrow 500 ft or so.


No, not unless your doing more then 20 yards in one day. 1 guy can do a yard an hour. If you get your mulch for lets say $27 a yard and you charge the customer $35 and you get $35 to spread that yard, your billing the customer $70 per yard. If your working by your self then you can usualy do 8-10 yards a day...billing out $700 (ish) $350 for mulch and $350 for labor.

If you were to add the $219 for the tractor that would push it to $919 and I dont think the customer will want to pay for that.

I would charge over $919 for 10 yards. So i guess it depends on what your charging.

I would never attempt to do 8-10 yards by myself. The most I did was 6 and half way through I called for help. Its also a myth a yard a hour. You might get the first few done in a hour but once fatigue sets in your lucky to do a 1/2 a yard a hour.

willshome
01-21-2013, 11:12 AM
I would never attempt to do 8-10 yards by myself. The most I did was 6 and half way through I called for help. Its also a myth a yard a hour. You might get the first few done in a hour but once fatigue sets in your lucky to do a 1/2 a yard a hour.

7 yards in ten hour is about what I can do. And not want to die.

Around here if a home owner calls a nursery for a yard of mulch it $35-$45 and $30-$40 delivery. So around a $100 delivered & installed is right