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JeffK26
03-16-2012, 10:12 PM
The budget says I can, The pre paid accounts say I can... the gut says I might be able to avoid an ulcer, and the wife says i might be able to avoid sex...

I am approved and they are waiting my response to get the 36" Snapper Pro SW20. I compared this unit to the Ferris and the only difference is the Snapper is a pull start, the Ferris isn't.

I am approved for both, but the snapper is $1000 cheaper and the only difference is the pull start vs. the electric start.

I have the weekend to weigh it in my mind and get the wife to not avoid kissing me........but oh boy i'm nervous. Saying no will make me sad, saying yes will put me on edge until the 3rd month of the season. woowee...let the games begin.

Hedgemaster
03-17-2012, 12:05 AM
Heh. I didn't realize that Snapper was the same as Ferris.

I don't know that electric start is worth $1,000, but I'm glad my Ferris has it. The Exmark that was more money didn't, so I figured it was a bonus to have it.
One "plus" for electric start is ease of starting while IN my trailer. I have 3' sides on my trailer, so getting positioned just to start it to unload could prove to be a SLIGHT nuisance.

You've seen my thread with my new Ferris. In looking at pics online, it appears identical in nearly every aspect. I did notice that the front of the deck doesn't have holes in it like mine. I assume they are there for mounting the mulch kit, but I don't know for sure. Also, my front casters hold air - not sure if that's different or not.

What kind of prices are they throwing at you for both of the machines?

Hedgemaster
03-17-2012, 12:40 AM
Another thing I'm seeing on the Snappers is that the deck looks "slanted" in some of the pics. Not all of them - maybe they changed deck design at some point?
I assume that the slanted deck is not a timed blade setup?

wandfsmall
03-17-2012, 11:01 AM
Snapper and Ferris are owned by the same company BRIGGS AND STRATTON. They also own Murray and Simplicity. I would expect them to be very close if not the exact same thing.

JeffK26
03-17-2012, 03:38 PM
Thanks for pointing that out Hedge.

I'm going in Monday to check them out again. The dealer has them set up across from each other and I didn't notice the holes or the slanted deck. It wasn't something that jumped out at me. It was more comparing specs than exact design.

I know you had to but kudos to you for making a snap decision. I'm glad I have time to mull this over. Even with the time I have i'm dizzy.

So if anyone knows the reasons for the holes or the slanted deck any info would be appreciated.

Gave me a price of $5140 on the Ferris and $4120 for the Snapper.

Hedgemaster
03-17-2012, 04:47 PM
In case you don't recall, when I asked how much it would be if someone else bought the one in the showroom and they had to order one, he quoted me $5,299. (Ferris)

Are they going to offer any "Spring" or "Open House" specials? Can't hurt to ask.

JeffK26
03-17-2012, 10:49 PM
Their open house was a few days ago, before when I went in.

Once I get the info in my head about each, I'm going to do the sales pitch.

I have never bought a commercial mower, but I have bought cars, and have never paid full price. So i'm going in with that mentality.

that's why I like this forum, sure I can change the oil on the walk behinds, sharpen and balance, change belts, I have electrical experience enough to follow a diagram and figure out why something might or might not be firing... that sort of thing, but heck, I don't know why they slant the deck, or which is better......now i have a couple extra questions to ask....

If anyone else has some input or suggestions, please chime in.

Hedgemaster
03-18-2012, 12:08 AM
I THINK the decks that are "slanted" have blades that do not physically overlap - that's why they are offset. I could be wrong though, as I'm new to this sort of thing.

I don't even know that the deck on the one you looked at is "slanted" - I just noticed it in some of the Google images that came up - they may have been older models for all I know.

Heck, ask if they will throw in a mulch kit or give a good discount on a bagger or something if they won't budge on price. Can't hurt to ask.

I wish I could report on the cut, but I still have a few days to a week before that happens.

JeffK26
03-18-2012, 12:26 PM
I don't even know that the deck on the one you looked at is "slanted" - I just noticed it in some of the Google images that came up - they may have been older models for all I know.

Gotcha. I'm going in again Monday instead of later in the week when I make my decision. I want to look at it again. They're sitting right across from each other and nothing jumped out at me except the muffler venting on the trim side and the tires on the Snapper are bigger. I'm taking what Mark said about the exhaust into consideration, and I asked about the tires and they said the Ferris will have the larger tires soon. I could swear the "slant" wasn't there, I can't even recall the holes, even on the Ferris.

Again thanks for pointing that out. They could be exactly the same and that's why I didn't notice, but I want to check to make sure and ask the appropriate questions if they are different.


Heck, ask if they will throw in a mulch kit or give a good discount on a bagger or something if they won't budge on price. Can't hurt to ask.


Oh yeah i'm going to. I have never paid full price for a car,tv, or my washer and dryer and I'm planning on walking out of there with more than a mower and a hat :D

Hedgemaster
03-18-2012, 01:41 PM
Gotcha. I'm going in again Monday instead of later in the week when I make my decision. I want to look at it again. They're sitting right across from each other and nothing jumped out at me except the muffler venting on the trim side and the tires on the Snapper are bigger. I'm taking what Mark said about the exhaust into consideration, and I asked about the tires and they said the Ferris will have the larger tires soon. I could swear the "slant" wasn't there, I can't even recall the holes, even on the Ferris.

Again thanks for pointing that out. They could be exactly the same and that's why I didn't notice, but I want to check to make sure and ask the appropriate questions if they are different.


Oh yeah i'm going to. I have never paid full price for a car,tv, or my washer and dryer and I'm planning on walking out of there with more than a mower and a hat :D

As for the "holes", keep in mind that my "new" mower was manufactured in 2008 or 2009, so MY mower may differ from a newer build.

I think it's funny that they would stock "identical" mowers from different makers. You'd think they'd want to show a larger variety and not double up on the "same" unit. Makes for a much easier comparison though.

Check the engine date codes - maybe you'll find the same as I did.




By the way, I got a SHIRT too! :D

JeffK26
03-19-2012, 04:43 PM
Stopped in to ask...

The holes on the front of your deck are to attach a weight system. Dealer said he has never sold a single one. They're for extreme hills to keep the front end down....

The basic explanation for the Snapper being slanted is the blades move independently and are offset.

I'm going to demo each one Wed and make my choice.

Off to do a bid for a leaf cleanup and mowing for the season....

Put two bids in today, got one of them and the other is getting another bid tomorrow and will let me know. Also got a customer for mowing while out today handing out the last of my fliers.

Hedgemaster
03-24-2012, 12:03 AM
Anything new here? I saw a Snapper rep today and was trying to ask questions for you, but he didn't seem too familiar with the Ferris/Snapper similarities/differences. Go figure.

JeffK26
03-24-2012, 05:28 AM
I'm going with the Ferris.

Reasons:
**I'm familiar with them
**the only knowledge of Snapper Pro is from online comparisons and reviews. I'm sure they are fine machines but I don't KNOW anyone that has used one.
**I demoed both and there weren't any WOW moments on one being better than the other.
**The electric start swayed me. If Snapper Pro had an electric start and was still cheaper, I would probably give it a go. After demoing, they felt the same, reacted the same...like i said, no WOW factor, so the electric start weighed in my head....I only have 10 accounts now, so pulling a rope 10 times a week isn't a big deal, fast forward, 10+ times a day? No thanks, I'll turn a key.
**The most important factor, the wife says the Ferris is a prettier red. :rolleyes:

Hedgemaster
03-24-2012, 06:38 PM
Did you note if the decks are any different between the two?


Does "yours" have the Sensor grips?


Do you have plenty of wax?
:D





Don't forget to order an hour meter if that's something that interests you.

JeffK26
03-24-2012, 08:20 PM
Did you note if the decks are any different between the two? Same decks, compared to your pics it's the same, nothing different jumps out....


Does "yours" have the Sensor grips? Nope


Do you have plenty of wax? I will tomorrow.:D


Don't forget to order an hour meter if that's something that interests you. Yup, I'll be getting one once this week's accounts pay...

I went in today to get it...they were swamped and short on staff since it isn't "the season" yet. Their new hours and sufficient staff starts this coming week.....Now being that they were busy one of the mechanics came in and I was talkin to him and he told me he works on more Snapper's than Ferris'...So good choice....

this is yours....some info for you...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vEMaWfUeFDM/T25kbJpQHNI/AAAAAAAAAX4/A8gKT4BUMAw/s512/IMAG3318.jpg

The circular tube bar the black arrow is pointing to....Go see your dealer for an upgrade. Mine has the same bar as yours and the salesman explained there are problems with it getting kicked off kilter bringing them down steeper ramps or backing them up curbs so there is an upgrade part to swap out giving more clearance. I'm taking mine in this coming week as they did not have any of the upgrades in stock.

Hedgemaster
03-24-2012, 09:47 PM
Thanks for the info. I wasn't really sure what that bar was even for until I tried to tip the machine back to get under the deck and it prevented it from going past a certain point.


Also, in case you don't see my update in the other thread, I found the exact same hour meter that I installed at Sears for $29.99 (Hours only - not a tachometer)

JeffK26
03-24-2012, 09:59 PM
Also, in case you don't see my update in the other thread, I found the exact same hour meter that I installed at Sears for $29.99 (Hours only - not a tachometer)

Cool! thanks!

JeffK26
03-25-2012, 09:58 PM
I got one pic in today before the battery died on the camera. For some reason the wife needed to take pics of the baby shower she went to. This was my Sunday, putting lettering on the truck....

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-S0AoQXgJjUA/T2-ec83vDXI/AAAAAAAAAYg/MQLecAxHfTk/s640/DSCF1773.JPG

Next on the list....a trailer... I was going to get one this weekend, until I tried out my ATV ramps with the Ferris and they worked quite well...so I decided to wait for a bit more cash. A trailer is a need, but with the ramps it's not a NEED

Hedgemaster
03-25-2012, 10:06 PM
Hope you can fit your push mower in there with it!

JeffK26
03-25-2012, 10:28 PM
Hope you can fit your push mower in there with it!

HA! The Ferris will do the job on each of the lawns I have. The push mower is now in the corner of the garage pouting.

and it will only be another week, maybe two with no trailer...I'm not pushing it beyond that. I want to wait until the last couple weeks mowing revenue comes in.

Hedgemaster
03-25-2012, 11:42 PM
Cool. I know that on most of my jobs I'll still need to get out the push mower for a few tight spots/steep banks - at least until I install the mulch kit. Otherwise, I'll be throwing clippings where they shouldn't be going simply because the lawn isn't large enough to maneuver.

I just finalized my trailer setup today, adding some attachment points for the ratchet straps that need to hold down the push mower. Trust me, trailers BOUNCE... bungee cords do not cut it.