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mschlotter
03-11-2012, 11:28 AM
So let me give you a bit of my background...
I am 16 and going full fledge this year with landscaping.
In the last couple years I just put mark's landscaping which sounded more like a younger guy doing lawns. I would like to have a "name", that I can put on some business cards and a website, that does not look childish. On the same note, some people would rather hire a "kid" than a real company. I want to act and be treated like a professional, but I think I should hint that I am a student who is doing this on the side. As of now, I have 3 large weekly accounts. I am hoping to have about 5-6. Not sure how much I can manage with school and work.

Yeah, lots of rambeling... So to recap,
-hint that i'm a minor?
-help to think of a name

Thanks

bruces
03-11-2012, 12:00 PM
something along the lines of " student lawn care " "student landscaping " "student painters " have been used for years and do seem to work .

CHEESE2009
03-11-2012, 01:37 PM
Similar useful wording

turf
lawn
grass
yard
property
grounds



Student Themed

Summer School Lawns
Garden Graduate
School of Turf


Just a kid Themed

Around the Block - Yard Services
Down the Road - Property Maintenance
Boy n' Mower - ??


:D

dpld
03-11-2012, 02:00 PM
i think you should just stay with your name that you got, Mark's Landscaping.

there is nothing childish or even remotely wrong with that name and if you decide to stay at it and get bigger down the road the name will grow with you.

if you had some type of student themed name it would not work too well when you were no longer a student.

even if it something you are only doing until you are done with school you can still build up a nice client base and have something of value to sell.

i grew up with a guy that built up a nice little maintenence business with his family in his neihborhood when he was in high school and by the time he graduated he had 100 accounts and was doing very well.
the only thing he did which worked out great when he was smaller and in school but seemed to sound sillier over time was his name.

his business name was " Small, That's All " and people ate up the young kid trying to make a buck. now the dude has 8 -3 man crews going out every day and has 2 construction crews going out everyday as well as he does just about everything now and he even recently started getting into house flipping.

the money he makes is obcene and he built a great money making business but his name now seems so odd, the guy employs 30+ people and he is not so small anymore, in fact he is simply huge.

Ducke
03-11-2012, 04:47 PM
My thought is NO.
Your age should mean nothing its your work there interested in.
Put together a nice portfolio of the jobs you have done and have at it.
I don't go around saying "Hey hire me I'm 50 and smarter then a 16 year old"
You shouldn't shout "Hey I`m 16 and don`t now what I`m doing"
Be confident and truthful and you shouldn't have a problem.

mark123
03-11-2012, 05:01 PM
Who gives a crap about your age? I see it all the time "I started a business and I'm only 13!" Well, WHOOP-DE-FLIPPIN-DOOO! It affords you JACK SQUAT. Then by age 14 they're shacking up with their 2 pregnant hoodrats collecting public assistance and living in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!!!!!!

willshome
03-11-2012, 05:17 PM
The people who like that you are young are thinking you will work for next to nothing

Hedgemaster
03-11-2012, 05:41 PM
Am I wrong in thinking that you can't just "pick a name" for a business without registering it?

I mean, aside from a last name.


Even "Mark's" would need to be registered with the state - at least here it would.


Maybe we're just going on the "he's a kid, so it's OK to operate illegally" premise...
I know that sounds like I'm being a prick, but having a business card with some random name does not equate to operating a business.



Also, to address the question, I wouldn't indicate your age. As mentioned, people will simply assume you'll work for nothing. (Because that's what many young/college kids DO and it makes it tough on the rest of us)

mschlotter
03-11-2012, 06:15 PM
The people who like that you are young are thinking you will work for next to nothing

I can condfidently tell you that if somebody once that lawn cut for 15-20$, I will never do that. The lawns that I have mostly 2 acres. I will admit I charge less than everyone else because I only look to make 19-20 an hour.

mschlotter
03-11-2012, 06:19 PM
Am I wrong in thinking that you can't just "pick a name" for a business without registering it?

I mean, aside from a last name.


Even "Mark's" would need to be registered with the state - at least here it would.


Maybe we're just going on the "he's a kid, so it's OK to operate illegally" premise...
I know that sounds like I'm being a prick, but having a business card with some random name does not equate to operating a business.



Also, to address the question, I wouldn't indicate your age. As mentioned, people will simply assume you'll work for nothing. (Because that's what many young/college kids DO and it makes it tough on the rest of us)

I see your point. But, how am I, 16 year minor supposed to register a business and obtain insurance?, If it were easier to get insurance, I would.

I am not too far from Philly, but it sounds like it's rather strict in Pittsburgh.

Hedgemaster
03-11-2012, 07:26 PM
I see your point. But, how am I, 16 year minor supposed to register a business and obtain insurance?, If it were easier to get insurance, I would.

I am not too far from Philly, but it sounds like it's rather strict in Pittsburgh.

I don't know. I don't know anything about minors and business - not sure how that factors into things. Is there an age requirement to run a business/purchase insurance?


It's not a "Pittsburgh" thing - it's state law. If you want to use a fictitious name (legally), you must first determine if that name is available for use, and then you must register it. If running a business as a sole proprietor and you are using your surname (last name), you do not need to register that name.

Example: Bill's Mowing and Landscaping = Fictitious name - must be registered
Example: Smith's Mowing and Landscaping = No registration needed

You can learn more here:
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/reources/8826/choosing_a_business_name/534146#faq2


Something to consider:
Even if you aren't operating as a legit business NOW, what happens if you start growing to the point where you decide you DO want to get everything in order and you find that the name you've been using isn't available?
Just something to think about for the future.

JeffK26
03-11-2012, 08:00 PM
You're young. It's refreshing to see a young kid working and asking the right questions.

BUT

If you're asking questions listen to the answers. Everyone here has given the right answers. They may not be what you want to hear, and it may not answer your original questions, but it's not as easy as the name of your company, it's if your company name is registered, and if you have a business if it is run legally.

It's not as easy as grabbing a mower and mowing grass....you have to have protections for you and your customers. Making someone have insurance isn't strict because he's in Pittsburgh, it's the law because we own businesses. It's the same all over the country. If you don't have insurance, you're doing it wrong.

The real world has more rules for adults than you have from your parents, and it's better you find out how it works now, so if you decide to keep mowing grass as a legitimate company, you're not going down the wrong road.

That being said, good luck, if you're serious about this then talk to your parents, they can help contact the state and local governments to get proper paperwork and insurance. Do it right kid, or don't do it at all.

CHEESE2009
03-12-2012, 10:55 AM
My opinion,


Forget about the legal crap for now, it's just a headache.

Firstly, you need to test the waters to see if this is something you can handle, as you might not be interested in doing this months from now.

At your age, there are also too many variables to consider that might interfere with the continuation of your business.

There is no point in going through the legalities with zero information. Banks and agencies will ask you all sorts of questions that you cannot answer unless you have an idea on what your business is capable of. You cant guess as to how many customers you'll have by x date, and how they all pay, and how much you expect to be paid per year - unless you've had some previous practice.


In other words, you really can't justify becoming 'legal' yet without making a gigantic mess of yourself.

/

Build up and manage your clientele this year. Next year, or the year after, see about becoming legal. It's all about knowing your company enough to answer questions properly.

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People might say you should register, get insurance, etc...
Any damage that you cause doing lawn maintenance can be paid off easily with cash - just don't run your mower into people or cars!

bruces
03-12-2012, 12:52 PM
cheese -what does he do if he flings a rock into somebodies eye ?

CHEESE2009
03-12-2012, 01:21 PM
cheese -what does he do if he flings a rock into somebodies eye ?

Then that eye will most likely be his own. Been there, done that.

Really, he'll just have to be cautious and consider the people who may be around him. This means to stop trimming when someone is walking near.

If he flings a rock into a car, and that rock breaks a window/dents a car.. it's pretty impossible for that to happen. You'd have to WANT to cause that kind of damage.

The damage caused to property is easily covered, granted you have the income (doesn't take much).

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There is nothing really stopping someone from operating this kind of business without being registered/insured. A person would just keep quiet about it, and only accept cash or checks to their personal name.

deschampsbrothers
03-13-2012, 08:07 PM
If i were you i would turn to a close relative(dad,uncle,grandpa) and see if you can atleast get some type of business name in writing as a partnership, and i also wouldnt being doing anything to crazy work wise with no insurance. that littlest rock you hit with that mower can cost you a 400 window real easy

picframer
03-13-2012, 09:41 PM
If i were you i would turn to a close relative(dad,uncle,grandpa) and see if you can atleast get some type of business name in writing as a partnership, and i also wouldnt being doing anything to crazy work wise with no insurance. that littlest rock you hit with that mower can cost you a 400 window real easy

I agree with this 100%, none of us plan on accidents but they happen.

As for age, a company name that reflects who you are can be a tremendous marketing tool, a few years back a group of University students here started University Painters, it is probably the largest painting company in our city today, they do good work and the public likes to help students.