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Hedgemaster
03-08-2012, 03:45 PM
Today I purchased my first walk behind mower!

Ferris ComfortControl DD 36" hydro floating deck.

Crappy cell phone pics first...


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It's a 2011 model that the dealer purchased "before the January price increase". They originally had it on sale for $4,999 and today was an open house/show, so they had in-stock items marked down a little more - today only.

I asked what the price would be for the 2012 model and was told $5,399 - same unit.
I paid $4,750. Also 0% financing for 36 months.

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As some know, I had picked up a residential ZTR in January and although I hadn't cut grass with it yet, I had several problems with it. Yesterday I decided to return it. and put the money towards a commercial unit. A commercial ZTR is not in the budget, so I then began scrambling to research what type of walk behind mower to get.
I narrowed it down to Exmark, Ferris, or Toro. (avail from local dealer)
I also set a maximum price of $5,000.

Toro doesn't offer a hydro until you get up to the 48", so that was a factor, as I was leaning toward a hydro if affordable.

The Exmark in a similar size - 36" Turf Tracer S-Series (floating deck hydro) was "show priced" at $5,400. (Reg $5,900) Doesn't even have electric start!



What sold me on this Ferris:

- It has the infinitely adjustable deck (not in 1/4 or 1/2" increments like others) that can easily be changed by turning two cranks.

- It has electric start. Not a major issue, but certainly a nice option.

- Price. $650 less than the Exmark and under my $5,000 maximum budget.


I can't wait to go back and pick it up. It wouldn't fit in the trunk of the Cavalier!!! :D




ETA:

I want to say "THANK YOU" to everyone who posted in my "need advice quick" thread. Your input was very helpful to me indeed.
Much appreciated.

SECTLANDSCAPING
03-08-2012, 04:20 PM
Shes purrrrty!

Still have any wax left over?

Hedgemaster
03-08-2012, 04:56 PM
Shes purrrrty!

Still have any wax left over?


LOL! As a matter of fact I do, smartass.


:p




Funny thing is, I am actually "rationing" the wax I used on the Husky because it's no longer made, so I am a bit perturbed that I wasted some on that mower.

The Ferris is certainly Astro Shield worthy and will receive the ole "wax on, wax off".

:)

JeffK26
03-08-2012, 04:59 PM
Congrats! Lookin gooooooood

stuntmanlogan
03-08-2012, 07:07 PM
Congrats on the new purchase. Please keep us updated on how the ferris works out for you. I currently run exmarks, but I really want to try out the ferris. I have heard nothing but good things about them so it should serve you well. Good luck this season.

Hedgemaster
03-08-2012, 07:16 PM
Congrats! Lookin gooooooood


Thanks. Wait 'til I get a coat of wax on it and take pics with a real camera.
Anyone wanna put on a bikini and lay across it for a photoshoot?


:D

jonathan thomas
03-08-2012, 07:25 PM
Congradulations. You will be able to cut more grass for sure now. Make sure to wax under the deck so grass don't stick:D

Hedgemaster
03-08-2012, 07:28 PM
Congrats on the new purchase. Please keep us updated on how the ferris works out for you. I currently run exmarks, but I really want to try out the ferris. I have heard nothing but good things about them so it should serve you well. Good luck this season.

Thanks man!

I was really liking what I was seeing about the Turf Tracers, and after laying my hands on the Enhanced Control System I nearly went that route, but ultimately, it was the price that was the deciding factor. Several people said I couldn't go wrong with either of them (or the Toro for that matter), so I'm comfortable with my choice.

All I see around my immediate area is Toro (and a few Exmarks) because the Toro dealer is right here. This Exmark/Ferris dealer is a 30 min turnpike drive away from me, but fortunately owned by the same guy as my local Toro dealer. Either shop can do warranty/service work for me.

I've nothing to compare it to, as I've never used a walk behind before, but I'll certainly be posting my thoughts as I use it.

jonathan thomas
03-08-2012, 07:39 PM
Different world from the ztr you had. Did you get a sullky for it?

Ducke
03-08-2012, 08:14 PM
Congratulation man
I hope this works out better for you than the other affair you had as fleeting as it was.
I am an eXmark man my self and someday I hope to own one.
But in till then my trusty old Honda will have to do.
as for a bikini wearer to lay in front of the mower ........
I hear Cheese2009 is available.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Fat_bastard.jpeg

JeffK26
03-08-2012, 08:23 PM
Anyone wanna put on a bikini and lay across it for a photoshoot?


:D

Good idea, I'll have my wife do that when I get mine. ha!:D

mark123
03-08-2012, 08:43 PM
Are the blades timed on that mower? I just ask because they are not offset so there is no overlap unless the blades are times to not be in the same place at the same time. Just wondering. :)

Looks nice. I'm looking forward to your reviews.

Hedgemaster
03-08-2012, 09:06 PM
Different world from the ztr you had. Did you get a sullky for it?

Indeed.

No. This was a big enough expense as it is. Perhaps later.
I figured I'd do some research before buying anything else for it anyway. I don't know if the machine is big enough to do that or not for sure and at the moment, I have no HUGE lawns anyway. I can walk.

I inquired about the mulch kits to see what his opinion on it was. He suggested I try cutting without it first to see how I like it. He then mentioned that adding Gator blades may also improve the clipping reduction without needing a mulch kit.

At least he wasn't trying to push extras on me. I could have gotten 10%-20% off anything today, but I can wait. Besides, if I should think of something else I want, the local shop is having another open house on Mach 23rd with the same discount.

mark123
03-08-2012, 09:26 PM
... He suggested I try cutting without it first to see how I like it. ... That is good advice. I'd get a bagging system before a mulching kit. You'll only use a mulching kit in July and August when there is no moisture in the grass and no leaves.
... He then mentioned that adding Gator blades may also improve the clipping reduction without needing a mulch kit. ... Meh. A set of high lift blades will make a nice cut and disperse the clippings. Gators suck. They don't make the clippings any smaller and they don't throw them nearly as far or disperse them nearly as much as the high lift blades will.

That's just my experience though. You should experiment. :)

Hedgemaster
03-08-2012, 09:47 PM
Congratulation man
I hope this works out better for you than the other affair you had as fleeting as it was.
I am an eXmark man my self and someday I hope to own one.
But in till then my trusty old Honda will have to do.
as for a bikini wearer to lay in front of the mower ........
I hear Cheese2009 is available.

CENSORED!


Post reported for obscenity and for just generally being a Canadian!





:D

:p


I hope you get your Exmark! I didn't operate it, but the handles on the one I looked at were pretty nice.
If not for giving up the Husky and the 0%/36 mo offer, I'd not have had this for at least another year.

SECTLANDSCAPING
03-08-2012, 09:50 PM
I never installed a mulching kit on any of my mowers and havent had any problems yet. I mow till late oct early nov to make fall clean up easy on seasonals. A cheap way of doing it if needed, is closing the discharge shoot.

mark123
03-08-2012, 09:51 PM
... A cheap way of doing it if needed, is closing the discharge shoot.
I just put the bag on and let it fill up. ;)

Hedgemaster
03-08-2012, 09:52 PM
Are the blades timed on that mower? I just ask because they are not offset so there is no overlap unless the blades are times to not be in the same place at the same time. Just wondering. :)

Looks nice. I'm looking forward to your reviews.


Good God, man I dunno. Everything I learned about walk behinds I learned LAST NIGHT! :D

I really have no idea. I don't know anything about mowers with more than one blade, so I don't know how it works. There could be little sharks with figgin' lasers mounted under there for all I know.

stuntmanlogan
03-08-2012, 11:16 PM
Thanks man!

I was really liking what I was seeing about the Turf Tracers, and after laying my hands on the Enhanced Control System I nearly went that route, but ultimately, it was the price that was the deciding factor. Several people said I couldn't go wrong with either of them (or the Toro for that matter), so I'm comfortable with my choice.

All I see around my immediate area is Toro (and a few Exmarks) because the Toro dealer is right here. This Exmark/Ferris dealer is a 30 min turnpike drive away from me, but fortunately owned by the same guy as my local Toro dealer. Either shop can do warranty/service work for me.

I've nothing to compare it to, as I've never used a walk behind before, but I'll certainly be posting my thoughts as I use it.

Good deal man. Hopefully you will like it. Like I said I am currently running exmarks. I do have a turf tracer, and do really like the ECS system. But Im always hearing great things about the ferris walk behinds so im real eager to try one out. Its going to have to wait until next year though, I have a couple pieces of fertilizer equipment I still have to buy this year.

Steve
03-09-2012, 02:28 PM
WoW! Nice mower! This year is gonna be a great year for you!

Hedgemaster
03-09-2012, 07:34 PM
I went back with the trailer and picked it up today. :)

Side note: Noobs, don't buy a 5x8 trailer unless you only ever plan to haul push mowers.
I'll be able to haul this and my push mower, but there isn't a lot of room left over. PLAN AHEAD for growth!



The dealer, knowing that I am unfamiliar with it's operation, gave a very thorough explanation of all of the controls before starting it up (ohhh... that baby purrrrrs) and showing how to work the controls. He pointed out all of the grease fittings, demonstrated the deck adjustment, explained the belt usage for different cut heights (yes, Mark, the blades ARE timed), and more before we headed out into the parking lot for me to familiarize myself with it's operation.

There's definitely a learning curve. The cruise control bar took some getting used to. I just assumed that all control - forward and back - would be done with the levers under the handles, but those are just for steering, "temporary neutral", and reverse.
You push the CC bar forward to begin forward motion until you are at the desired speed (infinitely adjustable - not "set" speeds) and let go of it. From there, you steer by squeezing the levers, and by squeezing both equally, at the midpoint the unit will come to a stop. By continuing to squeeze, it begins to move in reverse.
Stopping all forward motion after using the levers to stop requires you to pull/slap the CC bar back towards you into neutral. This can be done while in motion with the left hand, or after having used the levers to slow down. (It's hard to explain)
There's also a foot pedal you can step on with the right foot that pushes the CC bar back into neutral giving you different options for operation.
I'd say that maneuvering a zero turn is easier to pick up on, but it's not like it requires a degree from community college, or anything. ;)


Gotta go upload some more pics. Be back later!

mark123
03-09-2012, 09:22 PM
... There's definitely a learning curve. The cruise control bar took some getting used to. I just assumed that all control - forward and back - would be done with the levers under the handles, but those are just for steering, "temporary neutral", and reverse.
You push the CC bar forward to begin forward motion until you are at the desired speed (infinitely adjustable - not "set" speeds) and let go of it. From there, you steer by squeezing the levers, and by squeezing both equally, at the midpoint the unit will come to a stop. By continuing to squeeze, it begins to move in reverse.
Stopping all forward motion after using the levers to stop requires you to pull/slap the CC bar back towards you into neutral. This can be done while in motion with the left hand, or after having used the levers to slow down. (It's hard to explain)
There's also a foot pedal you can step on with the right foot that pushes the CC bar back into neutral giving you different options for operation.
I'd say that maneuvering a zero turn is easier to pick up on, but it's not like it requires a degree from community college, or anything. ;)
Toro T-bar has similar instructions. To go, push forward. To stop, pull back. To turn, steer right or left. Well, I guess it's nothing at all like that. :p :D

Hedgemaster
03-09-2012, 09:53 PM
Toro T-bar has similar instructions. To go, push forward. To stop, pull back. To turn, steer right or left. Well, I guess it's nothing at all like that. :p :D

LOL! I figured you'd have something like that to say!

:D

mark123
03-09-2012, 09:56 PM
LOL! I figured you'd have something like that to say! You know everyone around here is like that. :D

Hedgemaster
03-09-2012, 10:14 PM
PHOTO TIME!!!

For the love of God, if you quote this post EDIT out at least SOME of the pics!


New arrival at the Hedgemaster household...


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/FerrisWalkBehind004.jpg

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I discovered a problem with having added sides to my trailer - nowhere to attach tie down straps for something that weighs this much.
I do have D-rings attached to the inside, but while OK for holding a push mower or tying down a tarp, they would have ripped right out if I had used a ratchet strap on them to secure a 550 lb mower.
I couldn't really run anything over the side to hook on the frame on the outside, or it would have applied too much pressure on the top edge of the sides. The mesh floor isn't something I'd trust to hold either. I was able to go through the mesh and catch a few of the frame supports, but I have to figure out a better way to secure it.

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Bad lighting, but here's the pics anyway...

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Did I miss any angles? ;)

wandfsmall
03-09-2012, 10:19 PM
You know everyone around here is like that. :D

I would stick with the Hustler trimstar if I had to use it often, you can control it one handed and drink with your other hand... they have a motorcycle looking steering wheel you control and only need to have one hand on the unit to run it.

Hedgemaster
03-09-2012, 10:34 PM
I would stick with the Hustler trimstar if I had to use it often, you can control it one handed and drink with your other hand... they have a motorcycle looking steering wheel you control and only need to have one hand on the unit to run it.


I can run this with one hand too. So long as I'm going straight, or want to turn right.

:D

It's really amazing how much the controls can vary between manufacturers.
If I were in a position to be more choosy, I'd have tried different types. As it stands, my options were limited to essentially Toro, Exmark, and Ferris. (with a few others that they had catalogs for, but none to see)
Of those, the Ferris was the only one that fell in my price range with the features I wanted. I'll adjust.

Or does anyone think I should return it for that $1,000 Chinese-made 33" WorldLawn fixed deck gear drive with the 10.5 hp B&S?
:D

JeffK26
03-09-2012, 11:05 PM
You got me thinking about getting a Ferris now.....hmm

Toro/Ferris dealer is a 5 minute WALK from my place.

Any other dealer is at least 20 minute drive IF i hit green lights....

Old boss recommends the Ferris...your pics are pretty.

2 half acre accounts with a bid on a 1/4 acre out.

Hmmmm, I ain't gonna sleep tonight ya know.

mark123
03-10-2012, 06:10 AM
You got me thinking about getting a Ferris now.....hmm ...
Their zero-turns are smoooooth riding. Give them a try. :)

wandfsmall
03-10-2012, 07:11 AM
I can run this with one hand too. So long as I'm going straight, or want to turn right.

:D

It's really amazing how much the controls can vary between manufacturers.
If I were in a position to be more choosy, I'd have tried different types. As it stands, my options were limited to essentially Toro, Exmark, and Ferris. (with a few others that they had catalogs for, but none to see)
Of those, the Ferris was the only one that fell in my price range with the features I wanted. I'll adjust.

Or does anyone think I should return it for that $1,000 Chinese-made 33" WorldLawn fixed deck gear drive with the 10.5 hp B&S?
:D

I was just kidding, I did not suggest the Hustler for you when you asked as I did not think you had any support for it. You are better off going with a good dealer. I think you made a good choice personally. But I do admit the trimstar control system is kinda sweet that you can fully control the unit with one hand after starting the blades.

JeffK26
03-10-2012, 07:30 AM
Their zero-turns are smoooooth riding. Give them a try. :)

I have heard that. When I worked for my mentor we only used walk behinds and I really can't see myself on a zero turn.

I'm going down to the dealer next week to give a Toro and a Ferris a test run. I was planning on using the push mower I have now, but those two larger accounts I recently obtained are a bit much for a 22 inch. :eek:

I may hop on a zero turn as well....I didn't marry the first woman I met or buy the first truck...or the first gun I shot. So i'll give one a whirl. haha

mike affordable
03-10-2012, 08:10 AM
lookin good . wish i could afford something like that .

JeffK26
03-10-2012, 08:30 AM
Twas the month before Lawn Season, Hedge's Husky was crappy
No one was happy with it, not even Pepe.
The trimmers were hung out in the garage with care,
In hopes that Lawns soon would be need their care.

The equipment was stored all snug in their place ,
While visions of cut grass put a smile on Hedge's face.
With Hedge in an Echo shirt, and a new Ferris cap,
Had just settled in to give the new mower a wax.

Yes I am bored....

And excited to boot! Just landed a $800 mulch job! Got the email this morning. and on my way out to give a bid on mowing.

Hedgemaster
03-10-2012, 09:23 AM
lookin good . wish i could afford something like that .

Thanks.

Funny thing is that I couldn't afford a used one. Sure, you can find them used for less on Craigslist or something, but I don't have $2-3,000 cash lying around after a winter with no work. 0% financing for 3 years made this possible after determining what the payments would be.

Hedgemaster
03-10-2012, 05:57 PM
Mkay... I don't think it's a 2011 model after all.

I don't know how these things work with dealers, and I HAVE seen a lot of places selling brand new units that are several years old before, but I'm a bit irked that I asked if it was a 2011 and was told "Yes".

At the open house, I asked the factory rep some questions, and while talking about the controls, he said that they USED to have an "electronic sensor-grip operator presence system" (eliminating the need to depress the typical "presence bar"), but they stopped making those. (He didn't say when)

Well, today in my yard I was practicing with it and took my right hand off the operator presence bar (there's only one on this model) - the engine didn't stop. Huh?
My left hand was still lightly touching the grip and when I moved it away, the engine started to cut off. I quickly grasped the handle and the engine roared back to life. I looked closer at the grips and there's some sort of "name" molded on them indicating that it's the electronic sensor-grip.

I then did something I never thought to do at the dealer - I looked for the manufacture date label. It appears to indicate that it's a 2008.

I'm not sure if I should be upset by this or not. The factory rep said they have remained virtually unchanged for years, aside from minor feature changes from time to time. So did I get an outdated model, or not? I have no idea.

I will say that the electronic sensor-grip makes operation a bit easier in that I'm not forced to keep my right hand on the operator presence bar at all times. It also allows me to make quick changes to the forward speed because there's a few seconds lapse before the engine starts to stall. Hand off the grip, adjust forward speed, hand back on the grip, all without stalling it out.

I'm not so much unhappy with the unit, as I am wondering if I didn't get the deal I thought I did with this being (at least from what I can tell at the moment) a 2008.

wandfsmall
03-10-2012, 07:03 PM
I'm not so much unhappy with the unit, as I am wondering if I didn't get the deal I thought I did with this being (at least from what I can tell at the moment) a 2008.

Most mowers do not have years but the model would have changed from 2008 to 2011 or 2012. To help tell you what year it was look at the manufacture date of the engine. Most engines are used in the same year as they were produced. Also a tip I just found 2008 models at home depot with signs telling customers that they are 2012 units. Personally I have 12 units at the store I manage and prob another 14 at the other store, this way we are likely to sell them all this year and buy more, at least then we are only a few months behind unless they change the model.

Hedgemaster
03-11-2012, 08:40 PM
The Date of Manufacture listed on the ENGINE is: 1008
Listed exactly like that in a big, silver box - I assume that translates to October 2008, as nothing else would make sense to me.


The mower has a label on it with a "Part No." (5900756) and a "Serial No."


I just sent an email to Ferris with the above numbers asking if they could identify the "model year" of the mower for me.

wandfsmall
03-11-2012, 08:57 PM
The Date of Manufacture listed on the ENGINE is: 1008
Listed exactly like that in a big, silver box - I assume that translates to October 2008, as nothing else would make sense to me.


The mower has a label on it with a "Part No." (5900756) and a "Serial No."


I just sent an email to Ferris with the above numbers asking if they could identify the "model year" of the mower for me.

ok the mower would have likely been produced for 2009 or 2010 most likely 2009. I would not expect much of an answer from Ferris but good luck.

Hedgemaster
03-11-2012, 09:29 PM
ok the mower would have likely been produced for 2009 or 2010 most likely 2009. I would not expect much of an answer from Ferris but good luck.

If they don't give me an answer, I'll then ask when they stopped making the units with the electronic sensor-grip operator presence system, and see what they say.

I've been able to find a LITTLE info on that feature, but not much. I presume that either people didn't much like it, or it had flaws/didn't hold up, but I'm hoping it was the former. I like it. It's better than having to hold down that bar.




Supposed to rain tomorrow. Maybe I'll start waxing it in the garage... :D

mark123
03-12-2012, 06:36 AM
I wouldn't worry about it not being a new model especially when features were deleted on the newer models. I'd love to have that electronic sensor on my Toro. I hate the handle lever. HATE IT. I want to clip it so it never shuts off.

Just enjoy your nicely priced production machine! :)

Hedgemaster
03-12-2012, 10:38 AM
I wouldn't worry about it not being a new model especially when features were deleted on the newer models. I'd love to have that electronic sensor on my Toro. I hate the handle lever. HATE IT. I want to clip it so it never shuts off.

Just enjoy your nicely priced production machine! :)


I'm going back and forth via email as we speak.
Initially, he didn't give much of an "answer", but then replied with:

Your unit should be an 08/09 unit. We did discontinue the sensor grips and we now offer a kit to remove them completely which adds a second override handle to whichever side it was not built with.

I just sent another email asking what changes have been made since MY unit was produced. Really, that's what I'm most interested in. I mean, if it's just "little things" like the grip sensor, I don't mind, but if they've revised something that really makes a newer unit measurably BETTER, then I have a valid reason to be upset.

And yeah, unless the sensor grip is problematic down the road, I can see no reason to replace it with a "lever". As it is, it makes controlling it much easier than I thought after my initial run with it.

Hedgemaster
03-12-2012, 10:51 AM
That was fast.


Here's my previous email to them followed by the reply...


Thank you.

I purchased the mower new last week.
I ask because I noted that the "model number" on the tag at the dealer was listed as "CCWKAV1536" and in the brochure (copyright 2011) it's listed as "CCWKAV1636". I asked the dealer "I noted that the model number is off by one number, is that one last year's model - Is it a 2011?" and was told "Yes, we ordered it before the price increase in January, so you get it at last year's price."
I wouldn't mind so much if I was told up front that it was much older than that.

What I'd most like to know at this point is what changes have been made since MY mower was manufactured. The "deal" that I got may not have been as much of a deal as I thought if I'm not buying current production technology/design.

Thanks again for your time. I do appreciate your assistance.

The only difference on your unit over one coming off the assembly line today is a different engine may be on it. Only reason that may be is because the manufacturers change engines multiple times a yea so our engines are always changing not for any such reason of a particular engine having issues. Other than that they are identical in every way.

Yours does have the sensor grips on it which are more comfortable than holding down 2 handles, many people would prefer to buy a unit with the sensor grips on it versus the newer ones that do not. And if yours has problems with the sensor grips down the road and you decide you want to eliminate them we can have the dealer install the kit for you to make them the same way new ones are.
36 CCWs have seen the least amount of changes of any of our product.


I feel better now. :)

wandfsmall
03-12-2012, 11:57 AM
That was fast.


Here's my previous email to them followed by the reply...






I feel better now. :)

Wow glad they answered you. hope you are happy with it.

Hedgemaster
03-12-2012, 08:59 PM
I just ordered a SenDEC (http://www.sendec-products.com/products/3/Products+by+Type/inductive-hour-meters-surface-mount) hour meter for it.

http://www.mowersdirect.com/product-images/product_7902_225.jpg

I looked online at the Tiny-Tach and the SenDEC units and decided on this. The model I'm getting is just an hour meter - no tachometer.

I considered looking for one of the ones with service reminders, but decided against it. So long as I can see the hour/usage, I can keep track of the rest.

Hedgemaster
03-14-2012, 09:28 PM
Finished waxing it today. Juiced the tires up while I was at it. :D

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20Waxed/DSCI0263.jpg

I probably should have been doing more important things, but I've never spent this much money on something like this and was just having a good time waxing every inch of it - if there was red paint, and I could reach it, it got waxed!

One bonus to spending the time detailing it, is that I am now much more familiar with the machine. I saw things that I never would have otherwise.

Hopefully I can get it in a nice lawn for some better pics while it's still clean.
My lawn looks like crap and the sun was too bright - the pics make it look more orange than the deep red that it actually is.


What it looks like from a blade of grass' point of view...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20Waxed/DSCI0282.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20Waxed/DSCI0284.jpg

:D :D

mark123
03-14-2012, 09:55 PM
At least your Ferris has the muffler on the correct side. Unlike my STUPID Toro! :mad:

Hedgemaster
03-14-2012, 10:59 PM
At least your Ferris has the muffler on the correct side. Unlike my STUPID Toro! :mad:


I don't follow. Is hot air on the right side more beneficial than if it's on the left?

mark123
03-14-2012, 11:14 PM
I don't follow. Is hot air on the right side more beneficial than if it's on the left?
Try running the trim side of your mower under a shrub or low hanging branch with that huge vertical stupid muffler on that side. Stupid Toro designers. They obviously never actually used a lawn mower.

The first issue is that it burns the shrub and then it eventually breaks the muffler.

Attention stupid mower designers: The muffler goes on the DISCHARGE side, not the trim side.

mark123
03-14-2012, 11:17 PM
See where the muffler is on my old broken Toro:
http://images.imaginekitty.com/Toro1.jpg

Now look on the new crap:
http://media.toro.com/PublishingImages/ProductCatalog440X510/30698md30698_34r_190702.jpg

Hedgemaster
03-14-2012, 11:36 PM
Try running the trim side of your mower under a shrub or low hanging branch with that huge vertical stupid muffler on that side. Stupid Toro designers. They obviously never actually used a lawn mower.

The first issue is that it burns the shrub and then it eventually breaks the muffler.

Attention stupid mower designers: The muffler goes on the DISCHARGE side, not the trim side.


I guess I'm not as dumb as I look because that was the only thing I could come up with when I started thinking about it.

Speaking of discharge - I'm gonna have to actually THINK about how I mow lawns now. I'm used to mulching, so I've never had to worry about blowing clippings all over the place.

Hedgemaster
03-15-2012, 05:46 PM
My hour meter arrived today! Woo-hoo! That was fast.

I searched around and found the lowest price on the SenDEC brand on Amazon - $27 with free shipping.

Then I found this one on ebay for $28 and when I realized that it's a newer model, I just paid the extra $3.50 for shipping to get the newer unit. ($31.50 total)
They are a sealed unit, so you can't replace the battery. That said, I've read that people have had them installed for quite a few years with no issue. I just figured this way I know the battery is newer than in the older version that may have been sitting in a warehouse.

If anyone is looking, I'll save you some time - here's the Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Hardline-Products-HR-8063-Hour-Meter/dp/B000WJEY8S/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1331851172&sr=8-4)link.
It's not branded as SenDEC, but it's the same unit.

Tiny Tach (http://www.tinytach.com/tinytach/index.php) is another option.

I will post pics of the "install".
Shocking, I know - Hedge posting pics. :D

myblacktruck
03-15-2012, 07:47 PM
Nice mower you got there how many coats of wax you got on it already. LOL Were supposed to go look at new scag next Friday thats are open house thing. Were probably gonna trade are only exmark in on another scag or 2 :)

Hedgemaster
03-15-2012, 08:25 PM
Nice mower you got there how many coats of wax you got on it already. LOL Were supposed to go look at new scag next Friday thats are open house thing. Were probably gonna trade are only exmark in on another scag or 2 :)

Thanks, man!

Two coats on the deck, deck cover, and front framework. One coat everywhere else. :D

There's even wax on the underside of the front wheel casters - if I can reach it, it gets waxed! LOL!


Not really a true wax, but I love this stuff so much. I'm so depressed that they went out of business...

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/2AstroPolish.jpg

Hedgemaster
03-17-2012, 09:07 PM
Hour meter installed today. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
Hardest part was locating a suitable spot for it.

Crap. Forgot to upload pics. :o Be back w/pics later.

Hedgemaster
03-17-2012, 10:50 PM
SenDEC hour meter. Model # N110-0100

This model is an HOUR meter only - no tachometer.


As packaged...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/DSCI0297.jpg

It comes with wiring (simple, one wire connection), two screws for mounting and a zip tie for securing the wire on the spark plug wire.
Double sided tape NOT included.
I forgot to measure the wire, but would estimate it to be around 4' in length.


I decided to mount it using double sided tape. There were several spots that it could have been mounted on the engine cover, as well as on the frame. I decided against the engine cover to keep it away from the heat and vibration. Looking over the frame, I decided that somewhere on the discharge side would be preferable to avoid having things like shrubs/branches brushing against it. I also wanted a spot where I could run the wire where it would not be caught on anything and would be out of the way for servicing the machine.

This is what I came up with...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/DSCI0301.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/DSCI0302.jpg


I needed to mount it readable as viewed from the front due to the way the wire exited the meter. They give two options for routing out either the bottom or side of the unit in the corner as seen here. By orienting it this way, I kept the exposed wiring to a minimum.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/DSCI0303.jpg


I ran the wire along the factory wiring slipping it through an existing zip tie and adding more along the way to keep it in place and away from any moving parts.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/DSCI0305.jpg


... up and behind the battery mount...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/DSCI0306.jpg


finally running it through a hole in an existing bracket and up to the spark plug wire near the boot...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/DSCI0307.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/DSCI0308.jpg


Wire gets wrapped around the spark plug wire 4-5 times and is secured using the supplied zip tie - I added a second zip for added measure.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/DSCI0309.jpg



A photo of the hour meter on "0.0" with my phone to show date of install.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/DSCI0300.jpg


I wanted to get a rough idea as to the accuracy of the meter, so I hit my stopwatch on my phone when I turned the key for the first time.
When the meter hit 0.2, I hit my stopwatch again - it read 11 min, 51 sec, so I'd say it's pretty accurate. (0.2 = 12 minutes)

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/DSCI0321.jpg


All in all, a pretty straightforward install that an untrained primate could do.

Unless you are looking to have a high end unit hardwired by your dealer because you aren't comfortable with electrical work, this is just the trick for around $30 and 30 minutes of your time.

Note that SenDEC also makes units that flash service reminders at different intervals - some are customizable for things like "OIL", "HYDRO", and more.

Hope you enjoyed the show. Maybe it will help someone who didn't realize just how simple it is to install one of these units to assist with keeping an accurate maintenance schedule.

mark123
03-17-2012, 11:11 PM
Thanks for the info. I do need to put one on my 36". I just do the estimation now but that's probably OK.

Ducke
03-18-2012, 11:36 AM
Like the install
Just wondering did you leave enough slack so you can get the plug wire off the plug and out of the way to remove the plug ???

Hedgemaster
03-18-2012, 12:21 PM
Like the install
Just wondering did you leave enough slack so you can get the plug wire off the plug and out of the way to remove the plug ???


"Maybe".

The wire was just long enough where I mounted it. I think that if I do need some slack, I can snip a few zip ties that are pulling it snug - that should give me some additional play.


ETA: If necessary, the wire can simply be unwrapped from the spark plug wire by carefully snipping the zip tie, and put back on afterward.

Hedgemaster
03-20-2012, 10:07 PM
I'm looking for pricing on a mulch kit for this thing and can find NOTHING on the internet - nothing.

Unbelievable.

mark123
03-20-2012, 10:09 PM
Just put the bag on and let it plug up and it'll sort of mulch. :D

Hedgemaster
03-20-2012, 10:31 PM
Just put the bag on and let it plug up and it'll sort of mulch. :D


What bag?


:confused:

Hedgemaster
03-21-2012, 07:16 PM
I got part numbers from Ferris and called my dealer today.

Mulch kit - $93

Fabric grass catcher - $382

Holy crap. My first car only cost my $400!




Want your lawn bagged? Call someone else - I'm getting a mulch kit.

Hedgemaster
03-22-2012, 09:38 AM
Look! I got it durty!

:D


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3310.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3307.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3306.jpg


Never fear! I waxed the underside of the deck too - it hosed right off. :p
(but I know that won't last for long)

Hedgemaster
03-22-2012, 06:20 PM
Happiness is a trailer full of mower.


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3319.jpg


Since picking up the Ferris, I had to re-plan my trailer. I went and got a sheet of 1/2" plywood and bolted it over the mesh. There's about 5" of exposed mesh floor on each side - I didn't see the need to buy another sheet to cover the entire thing.

I wanted to center the Ferris, but it didn't allow enough room for my trash can in the corner, so I have it slightly offset. Since there isn't much usable space on the right, I figured that would be a good side to roll the push mower up, and park it behind the Ferris. This gives me a free area on the left almost the length of the trailer that I can use for things like gas cans, any large debris (branches), or maybe even my trimmer.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3316.jpg


The trimmer is just there to see if it would fit. I usually keep it in the ped of the truck, but I may rig up a way of "hanging" it from the side as shown.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3318.jpg



As you can see, the walk behind and a push mower is a tight fit in a 5x8 trailer...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3317.jpg


Just a few inches to spare...


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3314.jpg



I didn't have the tie downs on when I took the pics, but after figuring out my "layout", I spent some time planning attachment points that would secure the beast. I drive it up until it is pressing against the front, then apply the parking brake before putting it in neutral, and shutting it down. That keeps the front tires snug against the front wall.

I drilled through several points in the frame and added eye bolts on the inside to attach the ratchet straps.
The front gets snugged down, preventing it from lifting, or moving back.
The rear of the mower was a bit more tricky as there aren't a lot of places a strap could be run across without pinching cables or levers.

In order to keep it from shifting side-to-side, I screwed a section of 2x3 to the floor along the right tire. Then I attach a ratchet strap up near the handle on the right side that draws down and forward to an eye bolt near the floor. This pulls the unit to the right, "toward" the 2x3, preventing it from shifting to the left. The 2x3 prevents it from shifting to the right.
The 2x3 is also low enough that the mower deck clears it when entering the trailer. I considered using a thicker block of wood, but it wouldn't have cleared it.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Cut%20and%20Trailer%20Planning/IMAG3321.jpg



Gee. There's more to this than just "buying a trailer". ;)

Ducke
03-22-2012, 06:44 PM
Whats that funny green stuff ????
I think I vaguely remember it as ...............Grass???

:D

Hedgemaster
03-23-2012, 10:34 PM
Remember the thread I started asking how to go about cleaning under the deck of my (now returned) Husqvarna ZTR?


Well, I found a solution for getting under this Ferris.


First I tried using the automotive ramps I have in the garage, but that only lifted it a little and the ramps were now in my way, preventing me from getting/reaching underneath.

Then I discovered that I could push down on the hand grips and tip the unit back - it has a bar on the bottom rear preventing it from being tipped past a certain point. I tipped it back, then drove it forward and rested the front tires on a short garden wall in my back yard. I was still able to lift the front another 3 inches, so I slipped a 2x4 under the wheels to give me maximum height/clearance.
Not bad, but still not ideal, as I didn't want to do this on a regular basis and risk disturbing the stone wall.



Problem solved...










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http://hannaford.gsnrecipes.com/GetImage.aspx?vector=mAQhy8PoQFJdmEhicQ5O7ONgRpRqC xtWAZbG+kWHrkke21xRZClo8jdaqitFi03g


:D The 30lb bucket is the PERFECT height.

If I place the bucket in front of the non-running mower, I can lift the front, and use my foot to push the bucket under the front edge of the deck, then lower the mower onto the bucket.
Getting it out from under the mower is more difficult, so I start the mower, lean on it to lift the front a hair, then reverse it slowly back until it clears the bucket, and lower it to the ground.

Works great. Might not be a bad idea to grab my jack stands for doing blade changes, but for hosing off the underside, it's perfect.

Ducke
03-24-2012, 06:55 PM
Good old kitty litter.
Not just for the litter box anymore.
http://files.myopera.com/farskin/albums/461498/crazy%20cat.jpg

Hedgemaster
03-24-2012, 08:40 PM
FYI. If you're looking for an hour meter and don't want to wait (or pay) for shipping, you can just pick one up at Sears of all places.

I never would have thought to look there, but today while wandering through, I saw the exact same SenDEC unit that I ordered online. (Again Hours only on this model - not a tach)

$29.99

wandfsmall
03-24-2012, 08:45 PM
FYI. If you're looking for an hour meter and don't want to wait (or pay) for shipping, you can just pick one up at Sears of all places.

I never would have thought to look there, but today while wandering through, I saw the exact same SenDEC unit that I ordered online. (Again Hours only on this model - not a tach)

$29.99

you should be able to pick them up at any outdoor power equipment dealership as well as most of the smaller sears stores will not have them.

mark123
03-24-2012, 09:30 PM
you should be able to pick them up at any outdoor power equipment dealership as well as most of the smaller sears stores will not have them. Yes, for about $69.99. :D

Johnny_boy02
03-24-2012, 11:10 PM
Sooooooo shiny.

If I were to show my mowers how clean your mowers were I think I would be facing a mutiny.

wandfsmall
03-25-2012, 10:14 AM
Yes, for about $69.99. :D

act I sell them for 29.99 it depends on if the dealership can find a good supplier I guess. but my one with a tac is around $69.00

Hedgemaster
03-25-2012, 11:36 AM
Here's one with a tach for $33 + free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/Hardline-Products-HR-8061-Hour-Meter/dp/B000FOOAXY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lg_1

:)

Ducke
03-25-2012, 07:02 PM
Yup
Just ordered one in at my local dealer for $39.99 CDN will have it Tuesday.

Hedgemaster
03-25-2012, 08:02 PM
I'm thinking about throwing one on my push mower just to get an idea of how many hours I actually use the thing.

Ducke
03-26-2012, 03:03 PM
Got my Maintenance Minder today and got it installed on the Honda.
The wire was short so I had to fab a small metal plate to mount it on.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527961_10150614379325938_524480937_9769730_1410676 657_n.jpg
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Hedgemaster
03-26-2012, 06:09 PM
^^^ Wow. 12 minutes? Better change your oil! :D

wandfsmall
03-26-2012, 08:10 PM
^^^ Wow. 12 minutes? Better change your oil! :D

have you done your 10 hour oil change yet on your Ferris?

Hedgemaster
03-26-2012, 08:25 PM
have you done your 10 hour oil change yet on your Ferris?

No. I still have 7 hrs 48 minutes to go. ;)



Gonna try it out on a few lawns tomorrow. Woo-hoo!

One of them is a killer with the 21" mower, so I'm looking forward to it. HOPEFULLY I can get it into the back yard. The front hill leading up to the property is pretty steep. (crossing fingers)

JeffK26
03-26-2012, 09:22 PM
You may know this, but if you're cutting on a hill, start at the bottom going side to side....

that way you turn and the mower goes "up"....going down the mower turns down so gravity wants to pull you and the mower down the hill.

Hedgemaster
03-26-2012, 09:35 PM
You may know this, but if you're cutting on a hill, start at the bottom going side to side....

that way you turn and the mower goes "up"....going down the mower turns down so gravity wants to pull you and the mower down the hill.

I did not. Makes sense. Thank you for the tip.
I know absolutely nothing about HOW to mow a lawn with one.

Do you go "back and forth" like you do with a push mower? Do you go "around" the perimeter in "circles"? I haven't a clue.

Maybe it depends on whether one is side discharging, or mulching...

mark123
03-26-2012, 09:55 PM
I did not. Makes sense. Thank you for the tip.
I know absolutely nothing about HOW to mow a lawn with one.

Do you go "back and forth" like you do with a push mower? Do you go "around" the perimeter in "circles"? I haven't a clue.

Maybe it depends on whether one is side discharging, or mulching...

You can't make stripes going in a circle. :p

Turns going up the hill are easier to control. You can't go the same way every time though. You've got to change your pattern each mowing or you'll rut the lawn.

JeffK26
03-26-2012, 10:08 PM
Make a full perimeter pass with the discharge side inward.

Then back and forth, diagonal or whichever pattern you choose.

That first perimeter pass is efficient, it helps with keeping clippings off places you have to blow off to a minimum, but it helps more by giving you a nice space to turn, and it gives you a nice path in case you end up in the back of the yard on the last pass so ya can just follow the perimeter back.

JeffK26
03-26-2012, 10:21 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OGnhoc7PhZU/T3EzjQbkquI/AAAAAAAAAY0/itg79Qb5aRg/s508/Untitled.png

Kind of like this...the red is your initial perimeter pass. the blue is the pattern.

Turn on driveways and sidewalks when you can.......use the lane the perimeter pass makes for the turns you can't use a sidewalk or driveway...

Turning on a pivot is tricky at first....make sure the tire you're pivoting on goes in reverse as the turning tire goes forward so you do not tear the turf. It takes practice but if you slow down and do it slow you should be fine until you get the hang of it.

Hedgemaster
03-26-2012, 10:24 PM
Good to know. Fortunately, most of my larger lawns aren't "showcase" material, so they will be good for learning the ropes without screwing anything up.

It will be interesting to see what size lawn hits the "sweet spot" where I actually save a lot of time. As it stands, I have to think that some smaller lawns won't see a big savings in time when you factor in the need to unload/load TWO mowers because there are spots where a big machine just won't work.

Hedgemaster
03-26-2012, 10:48 PM
Hmmm... any tips for climbing curbs?
Just realized that one lawn has no access from the driveway and to get to the back, I need to climb a curb, and go up a pretty steep hill about 15' to get to the main lawn level.

I figured I'd toss a plank and/or a 4x4 in the truck to help give it something to "climb".

JeffK26
03-26-2012, 10:54 PM
Hmm, backwards is the way we go. BUT i haven't tried it with the Ferris yet...

If you remember the bar that needs upgrading, well it needs the upgrading because of the curb situation. The bar hits before the tires...

I don't know how high the curb is, but the wood sounds like a safe bet, not sure if it would work tilting it and going forward. At least you'll have the wood just in case haha

Hedgemaster
03-26-2012, 11:08 PM
Hmm, backwards is the way we go. BUT i haven't tried it with the Ferris yet...

If you remember the bar that needs upgrading, well it needs the upgrading because of the curb situation. The bar hits before the tires...

I don't know how high the curb is, but the wood sounds like a safe bet, not sure if it would work tilting it and going forward. At least you'll have the wood just in case haha


Forgot about the bar - I'm sure it would hit when backing up.
For a short, steep hill as described, would it be advisable to climb it backwards?

I figured I'd try and go up it forward at an angle, but what do I know.

JeffK26
03-26-2012, 11:17 PM
Just play it safe and go up slow. Watch the front so it doesn't tilt back...I don't know how steep is steep, but it's not as nerve racking as it sounds.

I'm assuming you're cutting the hill with the push mower?

If so, just cut it last and go up at a diagonal then the push mower will cover any tired tracks left at the diagonal.

I was terrible when I first used the walk behinds when i started with the boss man, I couldn't get the timing right on turns, or hills sucked, I can still improve a lot, but I do what is comfortable for me.

Just play around and find what is comfortable and what ya feel safe with. If backwards works then try that. :)

Hedgemaster
03-27-2012, 09:06 PM
Well, I used the Ferris on two lawns today.


First of all... WOW.

I cut some high crap - probably 8" tall.
I thought the Ferris would look at it and laugh, but it didn't even acknowledge the overgrown lawn as it rolled onward, slicing through the jungle, and spitting it out without a care in the world. Yawn...

I'd have been screwed if I had to mow this lawn with my 21" Toro - like I was so many times last spring.


The first lawn I used it on had mixed results. The lawn isn't flat, so that proved to be a challenge, and I hit a dip or two that caused a slight scalp. Using side discharge SUCKS unless the lawn is large enough. I need to make 4 passes discharging IN before I can safely go the other direction, or clippings go everywhere I don't want them to be.
I ended up using the Ferris to do the first cut and then went over the lawn again with the Toro to bag up the mess that was left behind.

The second lawn gave me better results. This was the one with the steep hill to climb to get to the lawn. I did OK getting up the hill and I'm glad I took the 2x4 for the curb - it worked.

This was the one with the really tall grass. The back yard is about 50-60' across and I dunno... about 300' long. It's rough to cut with the push mower on a good day and with this being the first cut of the season, I wasn't sure how it would go. It ate right through it. The only problem was a large amount of clippings in spots where the grass was REALLY high. I just re-cut those areas. Fortunately, this client doesn't really care how the back lawn looks, and is OK with side discharging, as there's no way I could bag this lawn.


Additional random thoughts:

Trailer setup works so far. Everything stayed secure - no shifting.

I have to remember to raise the deck up to 3" for loading/unloading or it catches the plywood on the trailer floor going in.

I used muscles I didn't know I had. LOL
I have to remind myself that I can't manhandle this thing - I have to use the levers to control everything. It's hard to rethink things after just using a push mower.

The cut seems nice. Better than the push mower for sure.

I guess that's it for now. I'll think of more - and I have pics to post as usual.

Hedgemaster
03-28-2012, 12:11 AM
First cut.

(just two passes along street and perimeter in first pic)
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0339.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0346.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0347.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0348.jpg


This lawn was not well suited for this mower. Too many slopes and curves and too small. No matter where I pointed it, it was throwing clippings where they shouldn't be.
I used it to cut the high grass, then went back over it with my 21" Toro and bagged up the mess that the Ferris left behind.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0342.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0341.jpg

Hedgemaster
03-28-2012, 12:13 AM
Lawn #2


Wasn't sure if the slope would be too much to get up, but I made it OK.
Good thing I tossed in some lumber for climbing the curb.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0371.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0370.jpg




I was amazed at how effortlessly it cuts the tall grass...


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0359.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0358.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0362.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0360.jpg




This lawn kicked my *** last season with the Toro Super Recycler...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0365.jpg


For what I was being paid, this was as good as it gets. First cut of the season with no prior cleanup in the fall or this spring - the chopped up leaves will just have to blow away on their own.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0366.jpg


One of these days I'll get a nice lawn to cut. :D


Overall, I'm pretty happy with the Ferris.
I give it two thumbs up!

HAMPTON ROADS LAWN CARE
03-28-2012, 09:22 AM
Lookin good!!! I hope here in another month or 2 I will be posting pics of my new mower im glad u like it!!!

Ducke
03-28-2012, 10:08 AM
Looking good Kirk

Hedgemaster
03-28-2012, 07:58 PM
Thanks guys.

Here's the reason I went with a 36"...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0368.jpg


Well, that and the fact that I could afford the 36". LOL

I'm SO happy I was able to make it up that steep hill. It doesn't look as bad in the photos, but it's tricky to mow even with the push mower.
I was worried that the machine may not fit through. The space on the other side of the house is wider, but the neighbor wouldn't let me run the mower up "his side" even though the angle was MUCH less severe. He said another lawn guy tore up his lawn.

Ducke
03-28-2012, 08:48 PM
why don't you quote him on a new walk way Kirk.

Hedgemaster
03-28-2012, 09:09 PM
why don't you quote him on a new walk way Kirk.

LOL.
MY client is on the right. I can't imagine how his neighbor's "sidewalk" came to be. It's interesting to say the least.

Johnny_boy02
03-28-2012, 11:35 PM
So last year you were mowing those huge lawns with a tiny home owner grade Toro? Dude you are a mad man. Whatever they were paying you was not enough.

Once you get the grass knocked down you will be able to whip through those yards 3 times as fast. You have to be stoked.

myblacktruck
03-29-2012, 05:49 AM
I think i seen a dirty spot on the back left side of that mower :eek: You better get that thing home and clean it now. I'm just messing everything is looking nice like that little curb jumping board, that hill does look steep.

Hedgemaster
03-30-2012, 07:14 PM
So last year you were mowing those huge lawns with a tiny home owner grade Toro? Dude you are a mad man. Whatever they were paying you was not enough.

Once you get the grass knocked down you will be able to whip through those yards 3 times as fast. You have to be stoked.


Yup. The first lawn I showed really isn't that big in my opinion, but the one with the tall grass - the one with the barn/shed? Yeah - BIG. And it's a BIWEEKLY, so the grass gets HIGH. Their front lawn barely grows at all, so they don't want weekly service. The back gets too tall to mulch with the 21" Toro and I refuse to bag for what I'm getting paid, so I open up the side cover and side discharge it. Doing it like that the Toro powers right through it with no problem, but it's slow.

I used the Ferris today on another decent sized lawn I just picked up.
I LOVE this thing!

Hedgemaster
03-30-2012, 07:16 PM
I think i seen a dirty spot on the back left side of that mower :eek: You better get that thing home and clean it now. I'm just messing everything is looking nice like that little curb jumping board, that hill does look steep.

I couldn't find the spot, so I re-washed the whole thing just to be safe!

:D

Johnny_boy02
03-30-2012, 08:34 PM
Yup. The first lawn I showed really isn't that big in my opinion, but the one with the tall grass - the one with the barn/shed? Yeah - BIG. And it's a BIWEEKLY, so the grass gets HIGH. Their front lawn barely grows at all, so they don't want weekly service. The back gets too tall to mulch with the 21" Toro and I refuse to bag for what I'm getting paid, so I open up the side cover and side discharge it. Doing it like that the Toro powers right through it with no problem, but it's slow.

I used the Ferris today on another decent sized lawn I just picked up.
I LOVE this thing!

Bi Weekly can really suck in spring. I am playing the the "there is no way a lawn can grow 9 inches in three weeks" game with the bank on a few properties I have sent back with higher bids.

For me anything larger than a 10,000sf or so lot is to big for a 21" mower. I started with a 21" then a 25" and now a 32". The 25" sees the most work but on days when I can primarily use the 32" its great. Goes faster, not tired, sore, etc.

I only wish I had the motivation to clean and wax my mowers. Hell I have not washed the truck in months.

Hedgemaster
03-30-2012, 08:50 PM
I put the big mower to good use on a corner lot today...


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0375.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0376.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0377.jpg


Not the best pic of the cut, but then again, it's not the best looking lawn in the first place. New client, first cut, and apparently they didn't do a fall cleanup because there were leaves everywhere.

I gotta say, the 36" mower is going to be a big help in terms of both raw power for cutting through overgrown lawns, and productivity due to the wider cut and the speed at which it can be operated. 6 mph doesn't sound that fast, but you'd have to jog fast to keep up with this thing at full speed.

As for the "hydro vs gear/belt driven" decision, I really don't have anything to base this on since I've never operated a gear drive, but I'm REALLY glad I went with a hydro - this thing operates SO easily. I recall reading that some walk behinds (Toros?) have "reverse ASSIST"... Assist my, a$$... I'm SO glad I don't have to manhandle, or deal with a half-a$$ed "assist" feature. When I want to go in reverse, I go in reverse - as slowly, or as quickly as I desire, and whenever I want to, and as often as I want, all by applying slight pressure to the levers with my fingertips.

This was a very wise investment, indeed.

JeffK26
03-30-2012, 10:09 PM
This was a very wise investment, indeed.

Ditto. I've cut my time down by 50%.

As of today I am up to 13 clients. with 3 possibles that are waiting for other bids.....

One of the new clients LOVED his lawn. He wanted a bid, I called him with the price, PLUS told him I could do it on the spot since i had my equipment instead of waiting until next week's scheduled day....he said yes....

come to find out, he is a referral ( my first real referral ) and my bid was 4 bucks higher than the previous bid.

I was worried I didn't do a good enough job...I was thinking "It could have been better, i should have cut it 1/4 inch higher. It's the nicest lawn I have, already pristine, I just have to maintain it, not grow it....Then, I got the call....... "OH MY GOD that is a great job! My wife got home and loved it, now I love it....I want you for the whole season and want to use your 3 month pre pay option." All this and i didn't even edge the sidewalks or driveways yet, I had to do the best I could with the trimmer since it was a spur of the moment job and no need to use the edger....So i get a good lump of money for early season cash flow, and the referral gets a gift card to Texas Roadhouse.....

Sorry to "hijack" the thread....complimenting the mower just got the story moving....;) and a :D

Ducke
03-31-2012, 07:08 AM
Kirk
You could cut your mow time down by 75% if you mowed more and took less pictures . :D

mark123
03-31-2012, 08:21 AM
Kirk
You could cut your mow time down by 75% if you mowed more and took less pictures . :D
The neighbors probably think he's a spy or private investigator. :p

Hedgemaster
03-31-2012, 09:28 AM
Kirk
You could cut your mow time down by 75% if you mowed more and took less pictures . :D


My wife said the same thing. :D

myblacktruck
03-31-2012, 03:57 PM
Kirk
You could cut your mow time down by 75% if you mowed more and took less pictures . :D

Now that there made me laugh out loud ;)

JeffK26
04-01-2012, 05:41 PM
Here's the upgrade I was talking about....got it done Friday...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-a16vI9lqZKg/T3jYncYT09I/AAAAAAAAAZM/Z6KXTdZndpA/s640/DSCF1809%255B1%255D.JPG

THe flaw in this upgrade is you have to blow this area out on both sides ( white arrow) or the grass can build up and overheat the hydros. It's a small price to pay for a better clearance.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Qx7rg07f_KM/T3jbbPyWU8I/AAAAAAAAAZU/iM5Tn-XO2zM/s640/Untitled.png

Hedgemaster
04-01-2012, 06:39 PM
Hmmm... I wonder if that allows it to be tipped backwards any further?

I found that I can lift the front until it hits that "bar", I can fit an empty 35lb cat litter bucket under the front lip of the deck to hold it up for cleaning underneath. Curious if the retrofit allows it to go any higher.

Thanks for the pics! I may look into that.

JeffK26
04-01-2012, 08:34 PM
I was able to tilt it back further with it not touching the ground. I didn't try it, but I imagine it will tilt back to the handlebars, or very close to it.

Hedgemaster
04-03-2012, 12:16 AM
OK, I feel like a moron for having to ask, but I can't find ANY instructions for the use of a grease gun anywhere.

I haven't touched a grease gun in 25 years. I picked up a decent one for greasing the fittings on the Ferris and I'm at a loss as to how it actually works.

It's a "Powerbuilt" like this, but it also came with a 12" flex hose...

http://www.toolsmithonline.com/product_images/a/728/648754__42493_zoom.jpg


Loading it was no problem and it pumps grease just fine. The problem lies in getting the coupler onto the fitting and what you do to "grease" the fitting.

I tried to push it onto the wheel fitting on my Toro push mower first. It didn't want to go on, so I pushed hard and it "popped" on. Awesome - "pump, pump, pump" that should be good...
WTF? Why won't this thing come back OFF?!!! I pulled so hard it pulled the fitting right out of the Toro! :mad:
I got a pair of pliers and tried pulling the fitting out of the coupler. It was STUCK. I then noted that the coupler was knurled, so I tried turning it, and it started to turn. I pulled on the fitting and it came out.

QUESTION: Is that how these things work? Do you have to "loosen" the coupler, insert coupler onto grease fitting, "tighten" coupler to "lock" it on, and pump grease into fitting? (Then LOOSEN coupler to get it OFF the fitting?)

I assumed you just "snapped" the coupler onto the fitting and pulled it off after filling with grease. Am I wrong? Perhaps there are different types of couplers? Maybe there are different sizes of fittings and I'm using the wrong one - I don't know.

The ONLY instructions included are for FILLING the gun and "operating" it apparently means "pumping the handle until grease flows... DUH! I guess they assume everyone already knows all about the fittings and how THAT part works. I can't even find any info online so I wouldn't have to look like an a$$ by asking on here!

Hedgemaster
04-03-2012, 08:16 PM
^^^

Bueller... Bueller...


Anyone?

Johnny_boy02
04-03-2012, 08:58 PM
My grease gun did not come with a correct fitting. I had to go back to the store and buy a fitting that screwed into where I assumed the zerk went. Before I figured this out I had the same issue with the gun not coming loose from the zerk.

Hope that made sense.

Hedgemaster
04-03-2012, 09:12 PM
My grease gun did not come with a correct fitting. I had to go back to the store and buy a fitting that screwed into where I assumed the zerk went. Before I figured this out I had the same issue with the gun not coming loose from the zerk.

Hope that made sense.


So how is it SUPPOSED to work?

Push on, pull off? That's it?

Johnny_boy02
04-03-2012, 09:47 PM
Push on, pull off? That's it?

In the past that is how it was for me. But we are in the same boat, I had not bought/ used a grease gun in years.

Hedgemaster
04-03-2012, 10:03 PM
LOL!

The blind leading the blind!


http://www.getthefive.com/media/cache/b6/95/b695583f77b2680a1c1cf25ec7ccb426.jpg

wandfsmall
04-03-2012, 11:17 PM
So how is it SUPPOSED to work?

Push on, pull off? That's it?

yup that is how it works, not that hard to do.

Hedgemaster
04-03-2012, 11:25 PM
yup that is how it works, not that hard to do.

Thank you.

I THOUGHT that was how it was done. Apparently the coupler on mine is the wrong size, or maybe there's something that's supposed to go into it that goes onto the grease fitting.

At least I'm not crazy. I was thinking that it was ridiculous to have to screw on and unscrew the coupler from the fitting EACH time. Cripes, it takes 4 minutes to do one fitting.

I guess I'll go to the parts store and ask what I need to buy to make this work.

Hedgemaster
04-06-2012, 10:29 PM
Crap. I keep forgetting to ask someone what I need to make this grease gun work. Fortunately, the Ferris isn't seeing heavy use yet, so greasing isn't critical.


Speaking of use...


I LOVE this beast!

I love the rumbling purr of that Kawasaki when I turn the key.

I love the ease of maneuvering - especially backing up.

I love the wide (OK, so it's wider than my push mower) cut.

I love the way it devours tall grass without hesitation.




I used it on three lawns today. Two were small, flat areas. One was a fairly steep sloped backyard.

I remembered the tip to start at the bottom and work uphill, so that helped.

It's so hard to accept that I can't manhandle this machine - I control it by using the levers to make it do my bidding! You "drive" these things - you don't "push" them.

I took pics, but too tired to post. Maybe tomorrow.

Hedgemaster
04-09-2012, 06:13 PM
Holy crap. What a difference the right equipment makes.

I mowed a rental property that had not yet been cut and it freaking DEVOURED that grass. I had to cut it twice to disperse the clippings (three times in one section), but I'd have killed myself trying to use my push mower.

I was also shocked to see very little grass build up under the deck afterward.

Me likey. :cool:



I'm going to use this bad boy on some first cuts tomorrow.
It may rain tomorrow! Oh noze! My shiny mower!!! What will I do?!! :p

SECTLANDSCAPING
04-09-2012, 06:28 PM
It may rain tomorrow! Oh noze! My shiny mower!!! What will I do?!! :p
Maybe use rainx instead of wax? :D

I'm going to test a ztr I just bought tomorrow too. ;)

avetslawncare
04-09-2012, 09:55 PM
who can tell me something about Encore....looking at a lightly used 48' Encore xtreme...not too familiar with this brand

Steve
04-10-2012, 01:12 PM
We haven't seen too many complaints about them. The seem to be built strong and are a little heavy. Any other views?

Hedgemaster
04-10-2012, 06:34 PM
Man, I tell you what... if you are still working with just a push mower because you can't afford one of these, I highly recommend selling your children if that's what it takes to come up with the money. ;)

I used it on two more "first cuts" today and I don't know how I made it through last year without one.

I can't wait until this spring growth is under control and I can put my mulch kit on it. There are a lot more lawns I can use it on once I don't have to worry about side discharge.


Oh, and when I pulled it off the trailer at the end of the day, the hour meter was on "8.0"!!! How's that for timing? Supposed to SNOW tomorrow - guess I can do my first oil change.

wandfsmall
04-11-2012, 08:12 AM
who can tell me something about Encore....looking at a lightly used 48' Encore xtreme...not too familiar with this brand

Encore was sold last year or the year before to world lawn, not sure about parts availability as I do not know a single encore dealer anymore, everyone I know that had it dropped them during the sellout.

Hedgemaster
04-11-2012, 06:24 PM
My mulch kit finally came in.


When I asked if it came with instructions, the dealer said "Well, let's open it and take a look".
Inside were two curved sections of metal baffles, a bag of nuts and bolts, and an instruction sheet.

"Where are the mulching blades?", I asked.
"I dunno... maybe it just uses the regular blades" he replied.
"Damn, that's a lot of money ($92.50 +tax) for two pieces of metal", I said only half-joking.
"Yeah, I agree with you."
"When I was looking them up online, they all said they came with mulching blades, so I expected to see blades too."

He made a phone call to the location I purchased the Ferris (He owns both shops, but he deals mainly with Toro at this location - the other guys know the Ferris products better) and asked if it should have mulching blades and they said it just uses the regular blades.

"Hang on a minute, I'm gonna get you another set of blades, so you have a spare set - no charge." He made a call and said, "I'll take care of you - you give me your business, and I appreciate it."

Cool.

Hedgemaster
04-11-2012, 07:31 PM
See what I mean?

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Under%20Deck%20Ferris/DSCI0556.jpg


Gotta wonder if I should be looking into mulching blades anyway.

Hedgemaster
04-11-2012, 08:00 PM
Here's some pics of my first use on a hill.

Before:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0519.jpg


After:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0538.jpg



Looking down from the top of the yard...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0524.jpg



http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0527.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0528.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0535.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0531.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0533.jpg

JeffK26
04-11-2012, 09:42 PM
If you have time ya should take pics one step at a time of the mower like stop motion and the mower would look like it's mowing the lawn by itself.

Here's a couple pics from one of my accounts....Hope ya don't mind me puttin them here

Before
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AuYV0WUK9HE/T4Y8qQzbjiI/AAAAAAAAAc0/Ck14COjAMbM/s640/3.JPG

After
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9dV9tIGN8cs/T4Y8qzBuznI/AAAAAAAAAdE/Jf6338TvyQk/s640/4.JPG

Hedgemaster
04-11-2012, 10:14 PM
If you have time ya should take pics one step at a time of the mower like stop motion and the mower would look like it's mowing the lawn by itself.

Here's a couple pics from one of my accounts....Hope ya don't mind me puttin them here

No problem. I like seeing what other people are cutting.


"Stop motion" would be hysterical. LOL

Hedgemaster
04-11-2012, 10:22 PM
In case anyone thought I was making it up.

Straight off the trailer at the end of the day...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Hour%20Meter%20Install/IMAG3424.jpg


How's THAT for the 8 hour first oil change timing? :cool:


Gonna do it tomorrow morning while my truck is being repaired.
Today while out, my truck was making some scary noises, so I called the local mom & pop garage and asked if I could have them look at it. I got it there around 2:30 pm and they checked it out.
Needs a wheel bearing on the front pass side. I forget the part price, but the total will be $350 with an hour and a half labor factored in.

This got me to thinking again about what I'd do if my truck were out of commission for more than a day or two. I'd LOVE to replace my wife's Cavalier with a small SUV that could tow my trailer in a pinch, but it's just not in the budget yet.



So, who wants pics of the oil when I drain it? :D

JeffK26
04-12-2012, 05:57 PM
Lawn #2
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/First%20Two%20Cuts/DSCI0371.jpg


Now this is a hill! :p :D

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nv9dWSo_T4s/T4dfALm5qFI/AAAAAAAAAd8/uBsh6sXnU8E/s640/DSCF1939.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-X4BNbYNjZaM/T4de_ztZH9I/AAAAAAAAAeA/8uoHK1FJVsY/s640/DSCF1940.JPG

I've been to Pittsburgh once many moons ago, I know it's hilliness and thought you were talking about a bigger hill....

Stop motion, do it, ya know you want to. haha

Hedgemaster
04-12-2012, 08:09 PM
^^^ Cool.

That would be one heck of a sled riding hill if not for the FENCE at the bottom.


Yeah, nothing BUT hills around here. Sure, you get some areas with flat lawns, but they are usually the developments out in the more rural areas - places where you can actually use a ZTR.

Returning that Husky ZTR and getting this walk behind was a very good move.

Hedgemaster
04-12-2012, 08:19 PM
Oh, I did my first oil change today.
It was like watching an episode of the three stooges, except it was just one stooge. :D

Do you think they could have made the drain hose long enough to actually direct the oil into a container without having to hold the hose in place the whole time? (otherwise it just drains onto the DECK)
I'm gonna need to find something to drain it into - something that FITS in one of the few places you can actually PUT a container to catch the oil.

I know it's not called for, but I was going to change the filter while I was at it.
Heh. Couldn't find my oil filter wrench since I haven't changed my own oil in 20 years.
Off to the parts store...
I bought a strap style wrench. It was the smallest one they had - didn't fit.
Off to the parts store...
I exchanged it for the kind that goes on the end of the filter. I even took my new filter w/m to be sure I got the right size.
It wouldn't fit the one on the mower. :mad: Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Oh well. I'll change the filter next time.



Sorry. No pics. :p

JeffK26
04-12-2012, 08:27 PM
I'm very happy with the purchase as well.

I have a sulky (homemade) I got from the LCO boss i speak off. I've been getting the rust off, put primer on it, painted it...getting the wheels tomorrow. This should cut time off my larger properties below.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mgxo3a10R2M/T4dmZ8Cr1YI/AAAAAAAAAfg/Zr5j6nWplBY/s640/18.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-sIIgUALPHVM/T4dmfwqZwdI/AAAAAAAAAfI/njnuPssM6lA/s640/20.JPG


I couldn't resist slipping this one in. I scared the bejeezus out of this little guy and his brother/sister. All i saw was grass moving and a furball hopping out of it from time to time, I followed and had to take a pic. I've worked in various trades, I've worked as a bouncer, served in Iraq, but my heart still melts when I see a little furball this damn cute.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6BSnpc9BOcs/T4dmf-mLJJI/AAAAAAAAAfM/3sLfAsYSTCo/s640/DSCF1953.JPG

JeffK26
04-12-2012, 08:35 PM
Do you think they could have made the drain hose long enough to actually direct the oil into a container without having to hold the hose in place the whole time?

I know!! I'll rig something up, but that first time I had to sit there and hold the hose over a funnel that tilted and went into a drain pan.
.

I bought a strap style wrench. It was the smallest one they had - didn't fit.


This is what I got, worked pretty well. It dented the oil filter, which doesn't matter since it was the filter coming off, but be careful when putting the new on on, don't squeeze too hard.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/wcsstore/CVWEB/staticproductimage//N3401A/full/17631701_otc_otc4562_pri_detl.jpg

Hedgemaster
04-12-2012, 08:52 PM
I know!! I'll rig something up, but that first time I had to sit there and hold the hose over a funnel that tilted and went into a drain pan.
.


This is what I got, worked pretty well. It dented the oil filter, which doesn't matter since it was the filter coming off, but be careful when putting the new on on, don't squeeze too hard.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/wcsstore/CVWEB/staticproductimage//N3401A/full/17631701_otc_otc4562_pri_detl.jpg


Duh. I never thought to use a funnel. One with a hose/flex hose may solve the problem.

Ahhh... they DID have one of those style wrenches at the store. Wasn't sure how well it would work.

I could solve the problem by getting a "wrench-on" filter. I know K&N makes them and I think I saw another brand as well.

http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/oil-filter.jpg

myblacktruck
04-13-2012, 06:40 AM
Here's some pics of my first use on a hill.

Before:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0519.jpg


After:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0538.jpg



Looking down from the top of the yard...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0524.jpg



http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0527.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0528.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0535.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0531.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20First%20Hillside%20Cut/DSCI0533.jpg

With as much wax as you have on there I'm surprised any grass sticks to it LOL. That thing cuts nice does a good job, as for changing the oil I was always taught when you change the oil you change the filter too.

wandfsmall
04-13-2012, 07:37 AM
Duh. I never thought to use a funnel. One with a hose/flex hose may solve the problem.

Ahhh... they DID have one of those style wrenches at the store. Wasn't sure how well it would work.

I could solve the problem by getting a "wrench-on" filter. I know K&N makes them and I think I saw another brand as well.

http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/oil-filter.jpg

remember a filter has to do more then fit on the machine, a lot of your auto parts stores will sell you a filter designed for a car that happens to fit your mower. You need a filter that has the correct bypass and filtration for your engine to last not just something that fits on and does not leak. I suggest buying a filter at a dealer that knows what they are talking about as most aftermarket filters do not have any specs available, and some companies quality control suck.

wandfsmall
04-13-2012, 07:39 AM
With as much wax as you have on there I'm surprised any grass sticks to it LOL. That thing cuts nice does a good job, as for changing the oil I was always taught when you change the oil you change the filter too.

You are correct, I would never change the oil without changing the filter, they will bypass even before most people change the oil making them useless.

Hedgemaster
04-13-2012, 07:27 PM
With as much wax as you have on there I'm surprised any grass sticks to it LOL. That thing cuts nice does a good job, as for changing the oil I was always taught when you change the oil you change the filter too.

LOL!

I can't wait to use it on a lawn with nice grass. I'm no expert and have nothing to compare it to, but it does appear to cut well.

As for the filter. Yeah, I mean, it only costs a few dollars, so why not just change it while changing the oil. That was the plan, but I couldn't get it off. Next time.

Hedgemaster
04-13-2012, 07:34 PM
remember a filter has to do more then fit on the machine, a lot of your auto parts stores will sell you a filter designed for a car that happens to fit your mower. You need a filter that has the correct bypass and filtration for your engine to last not just something that fits on and does not leak. I suggest buying a filter at a dealer that knows what they are talking about as most aftermarket filters do not have any specs available, and some companies quality control suck.

Absolutely. I need to stop in and check on what they offer at my dealer, but they are always closed by the time I get a chance to get over there.
I had the Kawasaki filter number handy and got compatible filter numbers at the auto parts store and figured it would be fine for the first oil change.

Hedgemaster
04-18-2012, 09:36 PM
My mulch kit finally came in.


When I asked if it came with instructions, the dealer said "Well, let's open it and take a look".
Inside were two curved sections of metal baffles, a bag of nuts and bolts, and an instruction sheet.

"Where are the mulching blades?", I asked.
"I dunno... maybe it just uses the regular blades" he replied.
"Damn, that's a lot of money ($92.50 +tax) for two pieces of metal", I said only half-joking.
"Yeah, I agree with you."
"When I was looking them up online, they all said they came with mulching blades, so I expected to see blades too."

He made a phone call to the location I purchased the Ferris (He owns both shops, but he deals mainly with Toro at this location - the other guys know the Ferris products better) and asked if it should have mulching blades and they said it just uses the regular blades.

"Hang on a minute, I'm gonna get you another set of blades, so you have a spare set - no charge." He made a call and said, "I'll take care of you - you give me your business, and I appreciate it."

Cool.

My blades came in and I picked them up today.

I didn't realize just how much that nice gesture saved me until the counter guy said "That will be $59.90." Before I could say anything, the owner interrupted and told him to void that out.
I wasn't expecting a set of free sixty dollar blades.

In turn, I made a $32 trimmer head purchase while I was there.

Steve
04-19-2012, 05:39 PM
You are rocking and rolling now! Can you imagine where your business will be in a year!

Hedgemaster
04-21-2012, 06:10 PM
Funny. Last year I turned down a few overgrown "first cuts" because I didn't have a mower that could power through them.

Now I have this walk behind and I just turned down an overgrown yard!
I just had a bad feeling. It was in a not-so-nice area and looking at the yard I just had a gut feeling that there could be hidden obstacles in the grass that was literally up to my knees in places.

Not to mention that they were looking for "regular service" ONCE a month.
Ummm... no thanks.

Steve
04-23-2012, 10:35 AM
Is there anything you can do if you wanted the job to look out for those hidden obstacles? Could you walk through it? Or is it just not worth risking damaging your new mower?

Hedgemaster
04-23-2012, 10:55 AM
Is there anything you can do if you wanted the job to look out for those hidden obstacles? Could you walk through it? Or is it just not worth risking damaging your new mower?

Sure, I could have walked it, but the grass was so thick and high, I'd have needed to drag my foot along every square inch.

In a home of this style/location, there are often stumps, and old clothesline/metal fence posts cut/broken off near the ground. The entire property was in disrepair, so I just figured it wasn't worth it.

Steve
04-24-2012, 04:53 PM
Do you think such customers would be willing to pay a higher price to hack it down or do you think they would feel someone would come in with an estimate and not care about their equipment?

I just wonder if such jobs would be worth having a field trimmer for.

http://images.drillspot.com/pimages/2972/297225_300.jpg

Hedgemaster
04-24-2012, 06:39 PM
Do you think such customers would be willing to pay a higher price to hack it down or do you think they would feel someone would come in with an estimate and not care about their equipment?

I just wonder if such jobs would be worth having a field trimmer for.

http://images.drillspot.com/pimages/2972/297225_300.jpg


Meh. People who allow a lawn to get to that condition are typically not happy to hear "In it's current state, the job would be a minimum of $200."

If this lawn were even moderately maintained, I would have priced it at $45/cut for biweekly service.

These people think that someone will simply "mow it" with a push mower for $30. That's as far as they really think about it.

SECTLANDSCAPING
04-24-2012, 06:50 PM
Meh. People who allow a lawn to get to that condition are typically not happy to hear "In it's current state, the job would be a minimum of $200."

If this lawn were even moderately maintained, I would have priced it at $45/cut for biweekly service.

These people think that someone will simply "mow it" with a push mower for $30. That's as far as they really think about it.
I had 3 of these calls this week. One guy paid triple the price to get it into shape. The other 2 refused. Ill post pictures of his yard tomorrow.

Hedgemaster
04-24-2012, 07:27 PM
I'm not impressed with "side discharge" mowing. Not even a little bit.

The lawns look great when I mulch using my little Toro 21" Super Recycler, but when I use the Ferris and side discharge, I'm left with a blanket of clippings that requires me to go back with a backpack blower and attempt to disperse them.

I'm embarrassed by the results. I don't understand how people mow like this on a regular basis.

I dunno if trying G6 Gator blades would help or not. It's still too soon for me to install the mulch kit, but I'm holding out hope that maybe mulching will be better.

Johnny_boy02
04-25-2012, 02:26 PM
I'm not impressed with "side discharge" mowing. Not even a little bit.

The lawns look great when I mulch using my little Toro 21" Super Recycler, but when I use the Ferris and side discharge, I'm left with a blanket of clippings that requires me to go back with a backpack blower and attempt to disperse them.

I'm embarrassed by the results. I don't understand how people mow like this on a regular basis.

I dunno if trying G6 Gator blades would help or not. It's still too soon for me to install the mulch kit, but I'm holding out hope that maybe mulching will be better.


People don't mow like that on a regular basis. For it to look decent after you discharge long grass you have to go back and clean it up or make multiple passes and then clean up slightly less mess.

If I mow a yard every week I can side discharge and the clippings disappear no problem. When the grass is long you have to bag it or clean it up some how if you want it perfect. Wet grass is even worse.

lawnman3fl
04-28-2012, 04:47 AM
that is why i am glad i stayed here in good ol sunny florida no need to side discharge grass unless its a clean up job..

but none the less its a lawn account i guess you should keep unless you got it made without that one...

just a opp from a florida boy i guess...

lawnman3 fl...:cool::cool::cool:

Hedgemaster
04-28-2012, 09:15 AM
that is why i am glad i stayed here in good ol sunny florida no need to side discharge grass unless its a clean up job..

but none the less its a lawn account i guess you should keep unless you got it made without that one...

just a opp from a florida boy i guess...

lawnman3 fl...:cool::cool::cool:


What does that mean? If you don't side discharge, then what do you do?

lawnman3fl
04-28-2012, 03:13 PM
What does that mean? If you don't side discharge, then what do you do? i simply just use a mulching kit on my gravely 36 in ...:cool::cool::cool:

Hedgemaster
04-28-2012, 06:43 PM
i simply just use a mulching kit on my gravely 36 in ...:cool::cool::cool:

That's my goal too. In a few more weeks I'm going to install my mulch kit and see how it works for me.

lawnman3fl
04-29-2012, 05:17 AM
yes our st.aug grass here in florida is a lot diffrent then your grasses there but if the mulching kit works good in my opp
good luck with it and post what you have found to work better for you...

lawnman 3 fl...:cool::cool::cool:

mark123
04-29-2012, 05:55 AM
That's my goal too. In a few more weeks I'm going to install my mulch kit and see how it works for me.
I predict you take it off and enjoy side discharging more than ever. :D

Steve
04-30-2012, 08:01 AM
I predict you take it off and enjoy side discharging more than ever.

What's your view on mulching kits vs. side discharge?

mark123
04-30-2012, 02:16 PM
What's your view on mulching kits vs. side discharge?
The grass is too lush and thick, especially on fertilized lawns. I bet it will pack the deck with grass and then bog the engine down.

I hope it does work for my pal Hedge but I'm skeptical. :)

Hedgemaster
04-30-2012, 05:49 PM
If it doesn't work, I just spent five grand for nothing.

That, or I have to find all new clients with larger lawns. I simply can't use this thing on a lot of my jobs because they are too small. I mean, they are big enough to justify getting it off the trailer, but the mowing areas are too narrow, and no matter where I point the thing, I'm putting clippings where they shouldn't be going. I need three passes facing "in" before I can go the other way.


I was actually going to post an update on the "discharge dilemma" this evening.
Today when I cut, it worked beautifully on the same lawn that left a blanket of clippings on last week. There is still hope!

mark123
04-30-2012, 07:20 PM
I side discharge everything. I blow grass on the street, on basement windows, on landscapes and sidewalks. Then I just blow it back into the lawn with my Echo. :p

On difficult areas I will do an extra trim pass around the perimeter and then restripe the area. Because it's already cut it won't throw tons of clippings into the mulch.

mark123
04-30-2012, 07:24 PM
Also, don't worry. You will get larger properties to make good use of the Ferris. Of course you can make better money per hour on the smallest lawns by using a minimum price and extrapolating the $/hr.

Hedgemaster
04-30-2012, 07:47 PM
Also, don't worry. You will get larger properties to make good use of the Ferris. Of course you can make better money per hour on the smallest lawns by using a minimum price and extrapolating the $/hr.

Yeah. I've been turning down work because it makes no sense to take on jobs that limit me to using a push mower because of steep hills, uneven terrain, or limited access.
I'll just keep saying "no thanks" until I get something I can use the new mower on. Eventually, I may have to bump the price up on some of my current jobs, or drop them and replace them as bigger jobs present themselves.

Also, the Ferris allows me to devour overgrown grass that would make even my Super Recycler wet it's pants.




New pics being uploaded. Stand by...

Hedgemaster
04-30-2012, 08:35 PM
Here's a "first cut" I did last week.
I think the last it was cut must have been mid summer last year - it was bad. There were a ton of leaves embedded in it as well. I wish I were being paid to get them out of there because that drives me nuts leaving debris in there like that. Oh well.

(The sides and front had been cut previously)

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0601.jpg


Just wait... the bad part is in the back.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0602.jpg


POW!!!

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0605.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0604.jpg



First pass...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0606.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0608.jpg


I knew I'd have to go over it a few times, so I just mowed "rows" through it initially...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0613.jpg


Then I started raking.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0615.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0616.jpg


Fortunately, I was able to drag the clippings up the hill into the woods.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0620.jpg



Tada!

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0618.jpg




Before:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0604.jpg

After:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0617.jpg

Hedgemaster
04-30-2012, 08:38 PM
Oh yeah... I terrified a widdle bunny wabbit when I headed around the side of the house.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0612.jpg

He shot out of the growth by the AC and then ran back in to hide, but I found him...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0610.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Monroeville%20HIGH%20Grass%20Ferris/DSCI0611.jpg

Johnny_boy02
05-01-2012, 02:57 PM
Looks good. Nothing ever looks perfect the first time it is cut after it has been neglected for the last 6 months.

Hedgemaster
05-06-2012, 11:17 PM
It's supposed to rain tomorrow.

OH NOZE! My new mower is going to get WET! :eek:


I should probably get down to the garage and get anther coat of wax on it before bed...


:D

Johnny_boy02
05-07-2012, 12:45 AM
Funny, I thought about how clean and shiny your mower is today as I spent 2 hours cleaning 8 months of accumulated gunk off mine.

I did not wax it though.:p

mark123
05-07-2012, 06:32 AM
My mower is lucky if I scrape the grass off the baffles. It knows its place. GET BACK TO WORK!

Hedgemaster
05-07-2012, 09:42 PM
Hi. I'm Ferris Bueller and I'm a dirty boy.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20Wet%20and%20Dirty/20120507_162600.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20Wet%20and%20Dirty/20120507_162610.jpg


OH NOZE!!! It's RAINING!!!

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20Wet%20and%20Dirty/20120507_162622.jpg



Lookit that water bead though! :D

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20Wet%20and%20Dirty/20120507_162842.jpg

Hedgemaster
05-10-2012, 09:35 PM
I had a moment or two of "OMG what do I do NOW?" today.

I was headed back to the truck with the mower and shut it down (still in the lawn) to go do something real quick and when I went to restart it, all I got was a "click".

:eek: Oh CRAP!


Just 30' from the trailer and it won't START! And it's going to be dark soon! And I don't know what I'm going to do. And I'm freaking out. And I can't believe the battery is dead. And I try it again - "click". "click". "click"... nothing. And I'm freaking out some more. And OMG this thing has 18 hours on it - WHY won't it start? And I smack the PTO for the blades down and it starts right up.

DOH!


Whew! Crisis averted. LOL!

JeffK26
05-10-2012, 10:25 PM
HAAHAHAHA!

I have a sulky on mine. I had a tight turn the other day under a tree. to avoid getting snagged in the tree and still make the turn I had to bend over the brains....where the PTO key, choke, etc are located. Well, leaning over it I turned the key off. I was perplexed. I checked the PTO, the brake...everything! no start.........WTF! The forward lever was still engaged.

I quote you..."DOH!"

Hedgemaster
05-10-2012, 10:40 PM
Hehehe!

Yeah, I was checking everything. Brake on, cruise control back, even depressed the backup operator presence lever. (don't need it normally, since it has sensor grips)
That was the first time I had shut the mower down with the blades on. Took a few panicked moments to think to check the switch position.


Speaking of sensor grips - I hope I never have problems with them because they are SO nice to have. No levers to hold down - it runs with as little as the tip of a finger touching the grip. Makes repositioning your grip effortless.
Want to stop and wipe the sweat off your brow, or grab a chug of water? Just lean against the grip and it senses your side through your shirt, keeping it running allowing you use both hands. Pretty nice.
Oh, and a bottle of water will sit pretty securely laying on it's side right behind the gas cap. :cool:

JeffK26
05-11-2012, 06:28 AM
Oh, and a bottle of water will sit pretty securely laying on it's side right behind the gas cap. :cool:

I shall try that!

Hedgemaster
05-12-2012, 11:44 PM
More pics...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Jobs%202012/Churchill%20Ferris%20and%20Signs/20120507_143040.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Jobs%202012/Churchill%20Ferris%20and%20Signs/20120507_145312.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Jobs%202012/Churchill%20Ferris%20and%20Signs/20120507_145754.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Jobs%202012/Churchill%20Ferris%20and%20Signs/20120507_150425.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Jobs%202012/Churchill%20Ferris%20and%20Signs/20120507_150531.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Jobs%202012/Churchill%20Ferris%20and%20Signs/20120507_150555.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Jobs%202012/Churchill%20Ferris%20and%20Signs/20120507_150613.jpg

Hedgemaster
05-13-2012, 11:19 PM
Glad I didn't put the mulch kit on yet...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_171539.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_171602.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_172720.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_172740.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_174753.jpg




Before/after

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_170114.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_185111.jpg




Before/after

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_170300.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_184443.jpg




Before/after

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_170429.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_184303.jpg




Before/after

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_170440.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/First%20Cut%202012%20Forest%20Hills%20Rd/20120510_184314.jpg

Hedgemaster
05-21-2012, 09:17 PM
IRONY:


Yesterday I thought I'd install my mulch kit.

I didn't realize I'd need to remove the deck to do so. I also haven't figured out how to remove the belt which is required to remove the deck. The instructions say to use a breaker bar - I don't have one.

I apparently need to also drill holes to mount the baffles. I don't have the right size bit.
I put the mulch kit on hold.



Today, as I'm mowing, I slammed into a protruding edging block, bringing the machine to an abrupt stop, causing me to jam my rib into the handle. The blades stopped turning and after pushing/pulling the PTO, I realized I had a problem.

I took the deck cover off and saw that the main belt was off. Great.
Yesterday I couldn't get it OFF, and now I had to figure out how to get it ON!!! Sheesh.

The spring that provides tension to the pulley had popped off the eye bolt and I had to figure out how to get it back on. I then became concerned with the possibility of an issue with the blades being out of alignment since it has timed blades,
I called the dealer and explained what happened and my concern. I was assured that so long as the other belt was in place, I was OK. He also gave me a suggestion for getting the spring hooked back where it was supposed to be. I was back up and running in a few minutes thanks to his tip.

JeffK26
05-21-2012, 09:36 PM
IRONY:


Yesterday I thought I'd install my mulch kit.

I didn't realize I'd need to remove the deck to do so. I also haven't figured out how to remove the belt which is required to remove the deck. The instructions say to use a breaker bar - I don't have one.

I apparently need to also drill holes to mount the baffles. I don't have the right size bit.
I put the mulch kit on hold.



Today, as I'm mowing, I slammed into a protruding edging block, bringing the machine to an abrupt stop, causing me to jam my rib into the handle. The blades stopped turning and after pushing/pulling the PTO, I realized I had a problem.

I took the deck cover off and saw that the main belt was off. Great.
Yesterday I couldn't get it OFF, and now I had to figure out how to get it ON!!! Sheesh.

The spring that provides tension to the pulley had popped off the eye bolt and I had to figure out how to get it back on. I then became concerned with the possibility of an issue with the blades being out of alignment since it has timed blades,
I called the dealer and explained what happened and my concern. I was assured that so long as the other belt was in place, I was OK. He also gave me a suggestion for getting the spring hooked back where it was supposed to be. I was back up and running in a few minutes thanks to his tip.

If you need me to, I'll take pics tomorrow on how to use the breaker bar to "loosen" the belt. It helps when you need to raise or lower the blade and need to change the the upper/lower main pulley.

Also was his tip the rope on the hook of the spring and pull until it grips the eyehook?

Hedgemaster
05-21-2012, 09:54 PM
If you need me to, I'll take pics tomorrow on how to use the breaker bar to "loosen" the belt. It helps when you need to raise or lower the blade and need to change the the upper/lower main pulley.

Also was his tip the rope on the hook of the spring and pull until it grips the eyehook?

Hey, that would be awesome because the illustration in the manual is pretty vague and I couldn't figure out what they are telling you to do.



And yes, he suggested using rope or trimmer line. I had some rope in the truck and it worked well, but I needed to use a stick to pry the hook into the eye hook once I had it pulled back far enough.
Then I had to cut the rope off because it tightened onto the spring hook too tightly to untie it.

I took pics - of course. :D

Hedgemaster
05-21-2012, 11:34 PM
Told you I took pics...


Belt off...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20Misc/20120521_141823.jpg



Belt back on...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20Misc/20120521_142212.jpg

Hedgemaster
05-21-2012, 11:52 PM
How about some VIDEO?!!!


(click image to go to Photobucket - you can click in the lower right corner to view full screen as well)

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20Misc/th_FerrisVerona_180429.jpg (http://s802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Ferris%2036%20Walk%20Behind/Ferris%20Misc/?action=view&current=FerrisVerona_180429.mp4)


I hate doing this "lawn". It's a biweekly, so it's always too high to cut nicely.
I despise leaving a mess behind, but the clients are OK with it, so I do it - for now.
This back yard is LONG. The section I'm cutting in the video is about 1/4 of the entire length. There's a shed that breaks up the lawn, so I do the back section first, then I cut the remainder of the lawn.

Yes, the chute is up. There is nothing nearby to be damaged and no people in either of the neighboring yards, so I flip it up for this one. It allows the clippings to be dispersed more, rather than clumping up into a pile as I go.

This was a MOFO to cut with the 21" Toro last season. I mowed it the same way - side discharge and the little Toro would blow right through it, but the yard is just so big that it took forever.



Anyway, I just took the video to show my wife some of the crap I have to cut while I'm out. Maybe it will also inspire someone else who is busting their hump with a push mower to break down and get a real mower. LOL!

JeffK26
05-22-2012, 05:30 PM
Here ya go

The drive of the breaker bar goes into the square.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-B4fOa59qG0s/T7wTPp8n8dI/AAAAAAAAAjw/Qpw72O9ZogA/s640/DSCF2421.JPG

I use an additional breaker bar to get the pulley to the side. It's much much easier than only using the one breaker bar.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WdLKyun9phM/T7wTQo5E9CI/AAAAAAAAAj4/qI1CAOljiro/s640/DSCF2423.JPG

As your looking at the mower from the front, push it to the left. The belt will loosen, the spring will not so don't worry.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dLzjk-15-OE/T7wTWBhjjcI/AAAAAAAAAkI/iOykdokmmhI/s640/DSCF2425.JPG

The pulley is now off. You don't have to take it off unless changing it, if you need to switch the pulley you can just put it where ya need it. I only took it off as a visual.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-plhy0gHculQ/T7wTbQY2llI/AAAAAAAAAkQ/mo7XmmelVak/s640/DSCF2429.JPG

Bam, there ya go all done...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HhvPBKJ1I9A/T7wTd0yrsUI/AAAAAAAAAkg/OF0o5e6G_sk/s640/DSCF2431.JPG

Hopefully this helps.

Hedgemaster
05-22-2012, 06:25 PM
Cool. Much appreciated and hopefully it will be of some help to someone who's just lurking as well.

When I bought it, the guy said something about "just pulling the belt up onto the upper pulley" for mowing in the upper height ranges. I was under the impression I could do so without tools, but according to the manual (from what I recall), I'd have to use the breaker bar.

JeffK26
05-22-2012, 07:53 PM
You could lower/raise the belt to the correct pulley by hand if needed. For a dealer to give that advice as the main way to do so is pretty odd. It's a pain in the arse. I forgot the breaker bar one day and had to mow at a lower than 3" height so I had to lower the belt by hand. It's the same concept as removing a belt from anything. It's much easier with the breaker bar.

Hedgemaster
05-26-2012, 05:05 PM
Meh. Looks like Photobucket haz me by teh ballz.

Most of my pics in the thread don't show now because they "exceed monthly bandwidth" and have "too many views".

Sheesh. If I want to keep using them, I guess I need to pay the $25 for a year, or $40 for 2 years to get the "Pro" account. (with unlimited bandwidth, etc.)
I'd say screw them and find another hosting site, but I've got several years worth of images with them, so it's easier to just cave in to their demands. Bastages. :mad:

wandfsmall
05-26-2012, 09:05 PM
You could lower/raise the belt to the correct pulley by hand if needed. For a dealer to give that advice as the main way to do so is pretty odd. It's a pain in the arse. I forgot the breaker bar one day and had to mow at a lower than 3" height so I had to lower the belt by hand. It's the same concept as removing a belt from anything. It's much easier with the breaker bar.

if you are caught out in a pinch you can also use a ratchet strap to pull the pulley over:) I have used that when I picked up a mower for a belt problem so I could fix it in the field without help.

mark123
05-27-2012, 07:49 AM
Meh. Looks like Photobucket haz me by teh ballz.

Most of my pics in the thread don't show now because they "exceed monthly bandwidth" and have "too many views".

Sheesh. If I want to keep using them, I guess I need to pay the $25 for a year, or $40 for 2 years to get the "Pro" account. (with unlimited bandwidth, etc.)
I'd say screw them and find another hosting site, but I've got several years worth of images with them, so it's easier to just cave in to their demands. Bastages. :mad:
Do you have a web site or hosting for email. Also, most ISPs offer web space with internet service. This is one of the reasons I do not use free accounts, even Gmail is out.

Back on topic, I don't know if this will help you but when I had my old Dodge Shadow the alternator belt would slip off if it got wet and I didn't have any tools with me so I took off my leather belt (the one to hold up my pants) and pulled the alternator belt back onto the pulley. I imagine you could use a belt in the field to either pull against the spring or to even slip under the blade belt to move it onto the other pulley.

JeffK26
05-27-2012, 12:25 PM
Meh. Looks like Photobucket haz me by teh ballz.

Most of my pics in the thread don't show now because they "exceed monthly bandwidth" and have "too many views".

Sheesh. If I want to keep using them, I guess I need to pay the $25 for a year, or $40 for 2 years to get the "Pro" account. (with unlimited bandwidth, etc.)
I'd say screw them and find another hosting site, but I've got several years worth of images with them, so it's easier to just cave in to their demands. Bastages. :mad:

Get a gmail account and use their photo album. It's what I use. I haven't exceeded anything yet and I have a ton of pics there. It's free, and their photo editing is picnik...it's basic toughups but it's free.

Hedgemaster
07-01-2012, 06:43 PM
Update:


Now that the lawns are brown and dead, and there's no work to do, I think I'll figure out how to rip the deck off and install the mulch kit.
I now have the breaker bar and drill bit I need, so looks like I'll have at it.

Now we just need rain so I can actually have something to cut.






Jeff, if you're still around, did you know there's a grease fitting under the control panel for the forward/cruise control bar?

This one was pretty stiff, and I would find myself bumping it with my palm to increase speed, so I decided to see what I could spray to lube things up and that's when I saw it. I greased it and sprayed all teh pivot points and now it's super smooth and easy to move forward and back as desired.

myblacktruck
07-03-2012, 07:57 AM
If you didn't live on the other side of the state I'd tell you bring it over and I'll help you change it. Then we could stop over the range and pop a few off :cool:

Hedgemaster
07-04-2012, 07:52 PM
If you didn't live on the other side of the state I'd tell you bring it over and I'll help you change it. Then we could stop over the range and pop a few off :cool:

I haven't been shooting in ages. :(


That said, I was able to get it installed today, so no need for a road trip!


I couldn't figure out how to remove the deck without screwing anything up (no instructions in the manual), so I figured out a way to install the baffle and blocker plate from below.

Turns out it DOES use existing holes in the deck except for two that must be drilled. The most difficult part was figuring out what goes where since the instructions included are for the hydrocut model. (uses same kit)
The TYPO in the instructions wasn't very helpful either. It lists a 25/64" drill bit under "tools required", then later it says to use a 21/64" bit to drill two holes. Thanks Ferris. (25/64 is correct BTW)

Now I just need some grass to cut.



Pics to be posted later...

myblacktruck
07-05-2012, 06:30 AM
I haven't been shooting in ages. :(


That said, I was able to get it installed today, so no need for a road trip!


I couldn't figure out how to remove the deck without screwing anything up (no instructions in the manual), so I figured out a way to install the baffle and blocker plate from below.

Turns out it DOES use existing holes in the deck except for two that must be drilled. The most difficult part was figuring out what goes where since the instructions included are for the hydrocut model. (uses same kit)
The TYPO in the instructions wasn't very helpful either. It lists a 25/64" drill bit under "tools required", then later it says to use a 21/64" bit to drill two holes. Thanks Ferris. (25/64 is correct BTW)

Now I just need some grass to cut.



Pics to be posted later...

Glad ya got it on ok and the typo thing would've really made me mad. I haven't been shooting in months either although might be able to find some time now that things have slowed:)

JeffK26
07-05-2012, 04:48 PM
Update:

Jeff, if you're still around, did you know there's a grease fitting under the control panel for the forward/cruise control bar?

This one was pretty stiff, and I would find myself bumping it with my palm to increase speed, so I decided to see what I could spray to lube things up and that's when I saw it. I greased it and sprayed all teh pivot points and now it's super smooth and easy to move forward and back as desired.

Yep, i knew about it.

Kind of off topic but,

I've been busy. Not mowing lawns, but been out up selling mulch jobs and brush clearing and cleanups. I'm even hauling junk off for people. I'm doing rain barrel installations as well too, but haven't got a hit on any of them yet. Rain barrels are a catch-22....people think they're great to conserve water, but no one wants to intall them because it isn't raining!

It's DRY here AND we're on our 8th day in a row of over 100 degrees ( 105 today )...the weather was just on we're 7 to 9 inches under rainfall averages since may 1st. I have lawns with irrigation and a few with people watering them.

I've bunched all my accounts to Thursdays and Fridays on alternate weeks so I'm not out mowing a few lawns on a certain day and wasting gas and mileage, etc.

Steve
07-06-2012, 10:47 AM
Rain barrels are a catch-22....people think they're great to conserve water, but no one wants to intall them because it isn't raining!

You should start another post about the installation of these. I bet other readers would be interested in hearing about the benefits of them.

Hedgemaster
07-31-2012, 06:25 PM
I finally used the Ferris with the mulch kit installed.

Me likey.


I cut 4 lawns with it yesterday and it cut all of them well.
One was a bit high (3 weeks since last cut) and it did leave a few small clumps in the thickest part, but overall, I'm THRILLED that I no longer have to map out a "plan" to mow a lawn.
"OK, I can't go this direction 'cuz I'll throw clippings in the koi pond and I can't go that direction 'cuz I'll blow grass in the flowerbed..."

Eff that.

Now I just mow away, or I should say "mulch away!"



Today I used it on several other biweeklies that I feared would be an issue.
I won't say that I was thrilled with it, but I was certainly impressed that it did as well as it did considering the grass height. Actually, these ones were skipped last week, so it had been 3 weeks since last cut.

If it works this well on high grass, cutting a weekly lawn should yield very favorable results indeed.

I'll post a few pics later.

xandrew245x
07-31-2012, 07:15 PM
I really like the mower, if this year goes well, I think I might purchase a larger walk behind and a sulky to use as my primary mower, and use my residential ztr for fall and spring cleanups.

Hedgemaster
07-31-2012, 07:24 PM
Unless you have gates you need to squeeze through, I suggest something larger than a 36".

I mean, it IS faster than using my 21", but the difference isn't as big as I had hoped.
The cut quality is superior though and it will power through some serious growth.



Side note:
My mouse just died and I have to use the stupid "finger pad" thingy on my laptop which is going to seriously put a damper on my web browsing/post-wh0ring.
:mad:

xandrew245x
07-31-2012, 07:30 PM
Unless you have gates you need to squeeze through, I suggest something larger than a 36".

I mean, it IS faster than using my 21", but the difference isn't as big as I had hoped.
The cut quality is superior though and it will power through some serious growth.



Side note:
My mouse just died and I have to use the stupid "finger pad" thingy on my laptop which is going to seriously put a damper on my web browsing/post-wh0ring.
:mad:

Yeah I plan on going for like a 52". I don't want to go off the bat and buy a $10000 ztr or $8000 stand on, I think walk behind with a sulky would be good for me for now, and if I have a larger property 1 acre or more, I'll use my residential ztr, I just want to be as easy on that thing as possible.

jrayb39667
07-31-2012, 10:56 PM
Yeah I plan on going for like a 52". I don't want to go off the bat and buy a $10000 ztr or $8000 stand on, I think walk behind with a sulky would be good for me for now, and if I have a larger property 1 acre or more, I'll use my residential ztr, I just want to be as easy on that thing as possible.

If you buy a 52" commercial walk behind with a sulky you won't even think about using your residential ZTR because of the cut quality and speed of the walk behind will be twice as fast as the residential mower.

xandrew245x
08-01-2012, 05:53 AM
yeah, the one ferris I looked at can cut 3.2 acres an hour, man thats cruisin!

xandrew245x
08-01-2012, 11:53 AM
If you buy a 52" commercial walk behind with a sulky you won't even think about using your residential ZTR because of the cut quality and speed of the walk behind will be twice as fast as the residential mower.

I'm torn between getting a ZTR or a walk behind, I know a ZTR you can cover more ground quicker with less fatigue, but can't really get into tight spaces.

Walk behind with a sulky will beat you up a little, but you will be able to take it places you can't take a ZTR.

Going to be a tough one.

wandfsmall
08-01-2012, 03:33 PM
yeah, the one ferris I looked at can cut 3.2 acres an hour, man thats cruisin!

I bet you will find in reality it will cut less then that ;)

xandrew245x
08-01-2012, 04:08 PM
Yeah, of course it will, thats based off of no obstacles in a straight line, and that rarely ever happens :p

Hedgemaster
08-14-2012, 09:34 PM
Had a scary moment today. I thought I was going to lose the Ferris to a hillside at the same moment it hung up on something, bending the transmission rod. (I think that's what it's called - goes from the pistol grip lever down to the hydro)

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o483/OakLeafLawnService/Equipment%20and%20Truck/Ferris%2036%20inch%20Hydro/Damaged%20Rod/20120814_130152.jpg



The other side showing how it SHOULD look - nice and straight...

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o483/OakLeafLawnService/Equipment%20and%20Truck/Ferris%2036%20inch%20Hydro/Damaged%20Rod/20120814_130128.jpg



This is what it got caught on - a "ladder hook" on the side of a shed.

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o483/OakLeafLawnService/Equipment%20and%20Truck/Ferris%2036%20inch%20Hydro/Damaged%20Rod/20120814_115405.jpg


I can't even explain how it happened, but when it did, the mower was trying to go forward, over a hill, while hung up on that hook. I was trying to reverse it and having little luck as one tire was spinning, but I was able to back it up enough to get it "unhooked".


A few more views...

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o483/OakLeafLawnService/Equipment%20and%20Truck/Ferris%2036%20inch%20Hydro/Damaged%20Rod/20120814_130029.jpg

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o483/OakLeafLawnService/Equipment%20and%20Truck/Ferris%2036%20inch%20Hydro/Damaged%20Rod/20120814_130012.jpg

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o483/OakLeafLawnService/Equipment%20and%20Truck/Ferris%2036%20inch%20Hydro/Damaged%20Rod/20120814_130048.jpg




Everything on either end of the rod looks fine. The lever isn't bent, nor does the bottom part that manipulates the hydro look damaged. The rod bent and the left handle is "opened" more than it should be now, but it's still usable.

Unless I discover something else I missed initially, it looks like I'll be able to order a new rod and replace it myself.


Sigh.

Steve
08-15-2012, 11:58 AM
WOW Who would have even thought that could happen!

wandfsmall
08-15-2012, 06:09 PM
I done that to my walk behind once hooked up on the back end of a tractor and bent the crap out of the rod. We took it off and put the rod in a vice I slid a pipe over it and bent it back to shape...lasted 5 or 6 years after that.

I am with you just bend it back, you have an adjustment turnbuckle so you can make it to where nobody would even notice that you bent it.

Hedgemaster
08-15-2012, 06:20 PM
If the part isn't priced outrageously, I'll replace it, but if it is, I may give that a try.

So mad that it happened. So relieved, as it could have been much worse.

bennyhill18201
08-16-2012, 10:36 PM
Wow sucks that it happened.That's a cheap part at least. Think there around $20 If you had a torch heat it and the bend and put it into a vice and bend it back,then quick put a wet rag around it to keep the heat down on the out side should be stronger at that point then the rest of the rod then..