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Clays Landscape
02-06-2012, 07:20 AM
I have been looking for a walk behind or a grand stand mower but I do not want to have to drop the amount of money into a Grandstand. I want a 36-40". I have found this one on Craigslist. He said he would take 2200 without the trailer and I asked what the best he could do and he said make an offer so what would you offer?

Do you suggest me finding a hydro over belt? I like the grandstand because the deck can be lifted quickly and it has the closest thing to a floating deck.

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/grd/2831257017.html

I have for sale a Commercial Toro 36 inch walk behind mower floating deck. 2009 model. Excellent condition starts right up runs great.It cost me $4200 brand new. I used it for residential backyards only so it has very low hours. Comes with trailer if you want. Call or email me at 757-535-4879. $2700

mark123
02-06-2012, 09:48 AM
That is the mower I use to run my business. I'd offer $2000. Does it come with a bagger?

The sulky is going to cause issues with the transmission so be prepared with a backup. It's easy to swap on a new transmission. The turboforce deck is HEAVY. The mower is about 150 pounds heavier than it should be. Makes ruts in wet lawns that my old mower didn't.

It makes for a beautiful cut without stripe kits.

Stay away from the 40" model. It's a turd. The 36" or 52" are where it's at.

Clays Landscape
02-07-2012, 07:32 AM
That is the mower I use to run my business. I'd offer $2000. Does it come with a bagger?

The sulky is going to cause issues with the transmission so be prepared with a backup. It's easy to swap on a new transmission. The turboforce deck is HEAVY. The mower is about 150 pounds heavier than it should be. Makes ruts in wet lawns that my old mower didn't.

It makes for a beautiful cut without stripe kits.

Stay away from the 40" model. It's a turd. The 36" or 52" are where it's at.

So it does make decent stripes?

mark123
02-07-2012, 08:28 AM
So it does make decent stripes?
You tell me. (Crappy cell phone picture, sorry.)

This is KBG/rye mix. You may not get stripes like this on warm season turf.

Clays Landscape
02-07-2012, 09:13 AM
You tell me. (Crappy cell phone picture, sorry.)

This is KBG/rye mix. You may not get stripes like this on warm season turf.

That looks great. Have you altered the deck any way? Such as lowering the rear of the deck?

mark123
02-07-2012, 09:14 AM
That looks great. Have you altered the deck any way? Such as lowering the rear of the deck? No, why would you lower the rear of the deck?

Clays Landscape
02-07-2012, 12:58 PM
No, why would you lower the rear of the deck?

I have heard of a great deal of people doing so to stripe better. I didnt like the idea myself.

Hedgemaster
02-07-2012, 02:56 PM
Funny. That's what I'm hoping to find (used) myself.
Going to go talk to my dealer to see if he has any available.

I have no idea what a good price would be though.
That one looks fairly clean - good luck!

mark123
02-07-2012, 08:03 PM
I have heard of a great deal of people doing so to stripe better. I didnt like the idea myself.
Sounds backwards to me. Do you remember where you read this?

willshome
02-07-2012, 10:48 PM
$2200 obo = $1600 to $1800 cash in hand. who is buying mowers right no one has money and its late in the off season. pull the cash out and say this is what you can pay right NOW, you maybe able to get more in the next few days or so but you need to go look at 3 other mowers that are under $2000 first. If he needs cash all that money right there will make him drop the price.
hope this helps

CHEESE2009
02-08-2012, 05:22 PM
Not worth $2k

3 years does a lot to a piece of equipment.

$700 - $1000 only.

... 2k is what you spend looking for a used vehicle, not a 3 year old lawn mower.

We also don't know how he defines, "runs great".... if you kick it a couple of times it'll start right up!

http://chzderp.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/hurr-durr-derp-face-see-huurr-you-just-unscur-the-nob.jpg

wandfsmall
02-08-2012, 06:55 PM
Yes that will leave a better stripe but the cut will look like crap :rolleyes: Your mower is designed to have a 1/4 rake.

mark123
02-08-2012, 10:20 PM
Yes that will leave a better stripe but the cut will look like crap :rolleyes: Your mower is designed to have a 1/4 rake. ...

Yes, as in lower in the front. Lowering the back just makes no sense at all.

wandfsmall
02-09-2012, 09:23 AM
Yes, as in lower in the front. Lowering the back just makes no sense at all.

sorry I should have explained that better, I was tired, sick, and on cold medicine when I posed that.

wandfsmall
02-09-2012, 09:23 AM
Yes, as in lower in the front. Lowering the back just makes no sense at all.

sorry I should have explained that better, I was tired, sick, and on cold medicine when I posed that. Thanks for finishing the job for me mark.

mark123
02-09-2012, 09:27 AM
sorry I should have explained that better, I was tired, sick, and on cold medicine when I posed that. Thanks for finishing the job for me mark. You explained it well, I was just butting in to agree. :)

Clays Landscape
02-09-2012, 09:32 AM
So how much do you all think this mower is worth?

mark123
02-09-2012, 09:36 AM
So how much do you all think this mower is worth?
$2000 if it comes with the bagger.

mark123
02-09-2012, 10:01 AM
If you go to check it out look under it from the rear. There is a pulley that goes to the transmission. Give it a good shake. If it wobbles the transmission is going to need repaired soon. Either the input shaft is worn or the bearings are shot. Either way having a backup transmission is a good idea for this mower. I was lucky enough that my old mower that I blew up had the exact same transmission and I was able to swap it out before the new transmission failed for the second time (it wasn't fixed properly by the local yokels).

Clays Landscape
02-09-2012, 02:59 PM
I have found what I truly want, a Toro Grandstand 40". It normally runs new for $7400. I found a dealer that had one he needed to get off his floor plan before he starts paying interest on it for $5950. Only 2 hrs are on this machine. What do you think?

mark123
02-09-2012, 03:08 PM
I have found what I truly want, a Toro Grandstand 40". It normally runs new for $7400. I found a dealer that had one he needed to get off his floor plan before he starts paying interest on it for $5950. Only 2 hrs are on this machine. What do you think?

Noooooooooo! Stay away from the 40" Turboforce. Total lemon. I bought one and returned it for the 36". Unless you like clumps all over your lawns pass on the 40".

You can find my posts about it here and the other site you mentioned. Get anything except the 40". 36", 48" or 52".

mark123
02-09-2012, 03:18 PM
Read this: http://gopherforum.com/showthread.php?t=11991

mark123
02-09-2012, 03:41 PM
... 36", 48" or 52".
I meant to say get one of those over the 40" in case that wasn't clear. :) Anything other than a 40". Seriously. There is a reason the dealer hasn't been able to move this mower. It's the same reason he's trying to sell it to you during the winter. When spring rolls around and you make a mess with it, it'll be too late to make him take it back.

Hedgemaster
02-09-2012, 05:13 PM
Glad I'm following this. I had forgotten about that problem you had with the 40".


I'm looking to get either a 32" or 36" walk behind - used.


Do you have any issues with gates with that 36" Toro?

mark123
02-09-2012, 06:03 PM
... Do you have any issues with gates with that 36" Toro?
I don't really have any mowing jobs with gates so I can't really answer.

wandfsmall
02-09-2012, 06:24 PM
Glad I'm following this. I had forgotten about that problem you had with the 40".


I'm looking to get either a 32" or 36" walk behind - used.


Do you have any issues with gates with that 36" Toro?

That would depend on the area, the current standard gates that meet code will allow a 36" mower threw. But some of the older ones will not.

Hedgemaster
02-09-2012, 10:15 PM
I just realized the OP is looking at a floating deck model.

I assume the fixed deck model Toro would be priced less.
How much better is a floating deck?
I figured I'd ask in case I run into one for sale - I should know the difference so I can weigh that along with price.

Clays Landscape
02-10-2012, 08:13 AM
The issue with the 40 inch turbo force decks have not been fixed in newer models?

mark123
02-10-2012, 08:20 AM
The issue with the 40 inch turbo force decks have not been fixed in newer models? They won't even admit there was ever a problem. Then they make you feel like you're the only one with issues.

Get what you want. If I were you I'd get it in writing that they'll take it back if you're dissatisfied for any reason. Good luck.

Johnny_boy02
02-10-2012, 11:00 AM
Glad I'm following this. I had forgotten about that problem you had with the 40".


I'm looking to get either a 32" or 36" walk behind - used.


Do you have any issues with gates with that 36" Toro?

Everywhere is different. I was trying to decide between a 32" and a 36" so I spent a week measuring gates and walkways.

I mow mostly city sized lots under 8000 sf so the 36" was just to big. Even the 32" wont go through about 25% of the gates.