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Hedgemaster
01-16-2012, 08:54 PM
Much of this is already discussed in my other thread, but since that thread was supposed to be a thread asking for advice, I'm starting this one to show off the photos. I'll try to keep the updates in this thread which also includes a short summary of how it came to be.




Drum roll please....


























BAM!!!



http://www.psndealer.com/powersportsdlr/images/NewVehicles/NV130072_1.jpg

Husqvarna RZ5424 (http://www.husqvarna.com/us/homeowner/products/zero-turn-mowers/rz5424-kohler/) Zero Turn Mower
24 hp Kohler Courage engine
54" (three blade) cutting width



I got it at a Sears Outlet store. We went there looking for a discounted dishwasher (no luck) and on the way out I wandered over to look at the garden tractors and snowblowers that were all lined up, and that's when I saw it. I didn't even know Sears sold them (zero turns) - especially not a brand other than Craftsman.
I know they sell a lot of returned/used/cosmetically damaged items at the outlet, so the first thing I did was run my finger under the deck and noted that it was clean - blades were clean as well. Apparently it was a floor model and is brand new - marked down from $3,620 to $1,990.
I couldn't find a flaw on it aside from a small tear in the foam on one steering control arm.

If you've followed my thread about our dog's surgery, you know that money is pretty tight - now more than ever. I didn't think it would be possible to get any equipment for a long time and initially walked away from it. We went home and discussed the pros and cons, and decided that this would be an investment. I also did research and confirmed that the reduced price was an amazing deal.
This mower will allow me to take on larger jobs that I could not do with a push mower and just gives me more options all around. I went back and got it.
Ultimately (and unfortunately) the reason this purchase was possible, is due to a death in the family which resulted in a small amount of money coming to us. Not enough to go buy a car or anything lavish, but it eased the finances just enough for me to make the small investment in my business.
0% financing for 12 mo. and the additional money made it possible.

And since I have a photo fetish, HERE IT IS!!!
(first batch of pics taken in the store - LOL!)

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And a 360 degree view if you click on the image...

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http://www.gopherforum.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif I drive my wife nuts with the photo taking. The sales guy chuckled and I told him "this way, if it gets delivered with scratches, I can prove that they did it!" http://www.gopherforum.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif


I'll continue this in another post... ;)

Hedgemaster
01-16-2012, 08:56 PM
Speaking of scratches...

The day it was delivered it was 10 degrees with high winds, so I just had them push it into the garage. The next day when I tried to start it - nothing.
:(

I really wasn't shocked. It seems that 99% of anything you buy these days has some sort of "issue", so the fact that an out of the box, floor model mower didn't start wasn't exactly unexpected. Disappointing, yes, but not unexpected.

Long story short, one of the mounting brackets for the steering arm was broken where it contacts a "shutoff" switch. (You can't start it unless the arms are "out", in the neutral position) I think the delivery people broke it.
Even when holding down the switch with a screwdriver to allow the ignition to work, the engine would start, but wouldn't stay running. (Oh, and the battery was too weak and had to be jumped)
A new part and a new carburetor was ordered and both were replaced.
I also got the OK to pick up a new battery and they are crediting me for that.

All of this took place while it was nice and warm, and on the day (last Fri) it was repaired, the temps plummeted again and we now had snow on the ground! UGH! I'm DYING to TRY THIS THING OUT!!!
(Especially since I only have 30 days to return it if I'm not happy - not much time considering the limited days available to run it with it being WINTER)

Well, I got it out today and ran it around the yard for about 45 minutes today!
:)

Camera battery died, or I'd have posted video too! :D


On with the show...

Oh, and as with anything shiny, and new - I WAXED it! :D


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Steve
01-17-2012, 03:50 PM
It looks very nice and I am glad you got all the issues resolved.

How do you feel having this piece of equipment now will effect your business going into this new year?

Hedgemaster
01-17-2012, 08:19 PM
It looks very nice and I am glad you got all the issues resolved.

How do you feel having this piece of equipment now will effect your business going into this new year?


Thanks.

It will allow me to mow jobs I would otherwise have to charge outrageous fees to cut using a push mower. There's only "so much" people are willing to pay and a guy with a push mower simply can't make a profit if he's biting off more than he can chew.
I've passed on jobs after going to give a quote simply because the lawn was too large to cut with a push mower - time is money.

The small ZTR was actually "step 2" of my two part plan to buy larger equipment. "Step 1" was a wide deck walk behind, however, this ZTR popped up at a good price, so I changed my plans a little as a result.

Ducke
01-17-2012, 08:36 PM
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Betty??
Its Mary
Do you see that crazy neighbour????
He's out there in the middle of the winter with his LAWN MOWER!!!!!!
The poor women he's married to Oh how dose she put up with it???
and look he take more photos of that lawn mower then his own wife!!!
Oh-oh he looked this way.............do you think he saw me?????
Betty I got to go lock my doors.

yourscape
01-17-2012, 09:45 PM
I just got my first zero turn the other day to a Husqvarna 54 also. I hope you enjoy it. I wish I would find more reviews on Husqvarna. Have you found many?

Hedgemaster
01-17-2012, 09:53 PM
Betty??
Its Mary
Do you see that crazy neighbour????
He's out there in the middle of the winter with his LAWN MOWER!!!!!!
The poor women he's married to Oh how dose she put up with it???
and look he take more photos of that lawn mower then his own wife!!!
Oh-oh he looked this way.............do you think he saw me?????
Betty I got to go lock my doors.


:D

I was running it from the back yard out the driveway and turning around right at the end when a car drove by. I thought he was going to run into a pole! LOL!

Hedgemaster
01-17-2012, 09:59 PM
I just got my first zero turn the other day to a Husqvarna 54 also. I hope you enjoy it. I wish I would find more reviews on Husqvarna. Have you found many?


Did you get the same model, or is yours a commercial grade?


I only searched for reviews on this particular model since I just happened to run across it and wanted to see what was being said about it before buying it.
At first I could only find generic reviews from dealers selling them and the reviews on the Husky website. Then when I went to the Sears Outlet website I saw about 30 reviews on this one and 70 on the identical unit with the Kawasaki engine. I read them all, and while keeping in mind that they were written by homeowners, the reviews were generally favorable.

gil500
01-18-2012, 10:31 AM
Speaking of scratches...

The day it was delivered it was 10 degrees with high winds, so I just had them push it into the garage. The next day when I tried to start it - nothing.
:(

I really wasn't shocked. It seems that 99% of anything you buy these days has some sort of "issue", so the fact that an out of the box, floor model mower didn't start wasn't exactly unexpected. Disappointing, yes, but not unexpected.

Long story short, one of the mounting brackets for the steering arm was broken where it contacts a "shutoff" switch. (You can't start it unless the arms are "out", in the neutral position) I think the delivery people broke it.
Even when holding down the switch with a screwdriver to allow the ignition to work, the engine would start, but wouldn't stay running. (Oh, and the battery was too weak and had to be jumped)
A new part and a new carburetor was ordered and both were replaced.
I also got the OK to pick up a new battery and they are crediting me for that.

All of this took place while it was nice and warm, and on the day (last Fri) it was repaired, the temps plummeted again and we now had snow on the ground! UGH! I'm DYING to TRY THIS THING OUT!!!
(Especially since I only have 30 days to return it if I'm not happy - not much time considering the limited days available to run it with it being WINTER)

Well, I got it out today and ran it around the yard for about 45 minutes today!
:)

Camera battery died, or I'd have posted video too! :D


On with the show...

Oh, and as with anything shiny, and new - I WAXED it! :D


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Congratulations, great buy and I hope it runs as good as it looks and lasts a long time. That is something to look forward to in the future. Hope you have fun with it while its puts money back in your pocket. That is really NICE!!!!!!!!!!!

Hedgemaster
01-18-2012, 03:10 PM
Just finished running it around the yard again. :D


It's freezing cold, but dry, so I thought it may be a good day to continue testing it out, as we're expecting more snow then rain/snow mix.


I haz video now too. :p
(I'll upload it later)



In addition to simply showing it in motion, I wanted to get video of something it's doing to determine if it's a problem or not.

when I come to a stop and open the arms into the neutral position, it sometimes will begin to "creep" forward. It freaked me out at first because you'd assume that "neutral" means just that, yet here I am sitting on a machine that is slowly moving until I pull up the parking brake.

After running it a bit, I noticed that it doesn't do this every time, and discovered that if it DOES start moving, I can gently bump the left control arm back a "hair" and it stops. I'm not sure if this is "normal", or if there is a way to adjust anything to stop it from happening.

I'm going to contact Husqvarna to see what they have to say. I shot a quick video of this "issue" as well. That way it may be easier to understand what I'm talking about.



I also let it sit (running) to run it dry to get the little bit of "old gas" out of it. The put a brand new carb on it, so I don't want to let it sit with any "questionable" gas in it.

Hedgemaster
01-18-2012, 06:25 PM
Since I only have 30 days to return it if I decide I don't like it, I brought it out again today.
Would be nice to see how it cuts, but there isn't a whole lot I can do about that.


Click image to see the video. Enjoy. :D


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Ducke
01-18-2012, 07:39 PM
wwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeee:D

Ducke
01-18-2012, 07:41 PM
Maybe someone can answer my question.
Why do commercial mowers have a roll bar but consumer mower don't ????

Hedgemaster
01-18-2012, 07:50 PM
Maybe someone can answer my question.
Why do commercial mowers have a roll bar but consumer mower don't ????

I don't know, but I tend to wonder if there's some magic cutoff point where machines capable of exceeding "X" MPH are required to have them.


The Toro Titan has a ROPS (roll over protection system, I believe) and it's not a commercial mower. It's sort of a "crossover" between homeowner and commercial.

wandfsmall
01-18-2012, 08:00 PM
I don't know, but I tend to wonder if there's some magic cutoff point where machines capable of exceeding "X" MPH are required to have them.


The Toro Titan has a ROPS (roll over protection system, I believe) and it's not a commercial mower. It's sort of a "crossover" between homeowner and commercial.

it has to do with how much the company making the mower will put into required testing and what their insurance comany says....

Hedgemaster
01-18-2012, 11:28 PM
Just finished running it around the yard again. :D


It's freezing cold, but dry, so I thought it may be a good day to continue testing it out, as we're expecting more snow then rain/snow mix.


I haz video now too. :p
(I'll upload it later)



In addition to simply showing it in motion, I wanted to get video of something it's doing to determine if it's a problem or not.

when I come to a stop and open the arms into the neutral position, it sometimes will begin to "creep" forward. It freaked me out at first because you'd assume that "neutral" means just that, yet here I am sitting on a machine that is slowly moving until I pull up the parking brake.

After running it a bit, I noticed that it doesn't do this every time, and discovered that if it DOES start moving, I can gently bump the left control arm back a "hair" and it stops. I'm not sure if this is "normal", or if there is a way to adjust anything to stop it from happening.

I'm going to contact Husqvarna to see what they have to say. I shot a quick video of this "issue" as well. That way it may be easier to understand what I'm talking about.





Here's the video I made to help better explain what I'm talking about...

You have to watch the front tires very carefully when I put it in neutral. It didn't do it much when I shot the video (go figure), and that's why you'll see me "tapping" the handles - to show that if the handle comes to rest in just the right spot, it WILL begin to move.
(you can maximize the view by clicking in the lower right corner after you get to the Photobucket page)

CLICK image to VIEW

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Any thoughts?

I may have my wife move the arms around while it's not running so I can get under it and see exactly what mechanism causes it to be "in neutral". It's had to see every part that moves when I try it myself.

If you need any additional info, just ask.

Chaz
01-18-2012, 11:32 PM
You got a serious deal on that machine!!!!!!
Is there still a 2 year warranty on that with that heavy discount? is it a specific number of hours of warranty as well?


Roll over bar is a feature, i dont know about producers' insurance but im pretty sure some commercial contracts require it

I also think it has insurance benefits for landscaping companys

Steve
01-19-2012, 04:15 PM
I don't know, but I tend to wonder if there's some magic cutoff point where machines capable of exceeding "X" MPH are required to have them.

I bet given the right slope, most any consumer model ztr could be flipped. So be careful.

yourscape
01-19-2012, 05:09 PM
Did you get the same model, or is yours a commercial grade?


I only searched for reviews on this particular model since I just happened to run across it and wanted to see what was being said about it before buying it.
At first I could only find generic reviews from dealers selling them and the reviews on the Husky website. Then when I went to the Sears Outlet website I saw about 30 reviews on this one and 70 on the identical unit with the Kawasaki engine. I read them all, and while keeping in mind that they were written by homeowners, the reviews were generally favorable.

I did get a commercial grade the PZ5426 model. I was nervous about the big box stores from recent posts. I actually bought a whole package from a local dealer and gave me a big discount. Not 45% like you. For what I gather there are solid machines.

wandfsmall
01-19-2012, 09:18 PM
I bet given the right slope, most any consumer model ztr could be flipped. So be careful.

honestly it is harder to flip a ztr then you think, but yes ANY mower can be flipped. Your largest commercial mower companies like toro, exmark, scag, and hustler put them on all units as they have insurance companies pushing them to add them due to law suite fears. Also they make the machine look beefier and easier to sell honestly.

wandfsmall
01-19-2012, 09:21 PM
I may have my wife move the arms around while it's not running so I can get under it and see exactly what mechanism causes it to be "in neutral". It's had to see every part that moves when I try it myself.

If you need any additional info, just ask.

What you need is an adjustment of your control linkages. The first few times you adjust hydro systems they can be a pain to get correct. But after you do it a few times they are easy.

Hedgemaster
01-19-2012, 09:57 PM
What you need is an adjustment of your control linkages. The first few times you adjust hydro systems they can be a pain to get correct. But after you do it a few times they are easy.

OK, so between your reply and a brief PM I got from someone on an unrelated forum (from a guy who has experience w/ZTRs), it sounds like it's something that just needs tweaked a bit, and not something "wrong". That's good.


I'll look into it some more, but if there's anything that may help feel free to make suggestions.

wandfsmall
01-20-2012, 12:22 AM
OK, so between your reply and a brief PM I got from someone on an unrelated forum (from a guy who has experience w/ZTRs), it sounds like it's something that just needs tweaked a bit, and not something "wrong". That's good.


I'll look into it some more, but if there's anything that may help feel free to make suggestions.

I wish I could give you a magic fix it is more of an adjustment thing and experience is the only thing that makes it easier. Good luck, it is not a complicated fix just can take time to get it perfect.

Steve
01-20-2012, 03:45 PM
Take some pics of you adjusting the linkage. I bet others will run into this too.

Hedgemaster
01-20-2012, 07:06 PM
Take some pics of you adjusting the linkage. I bet others will run into this too.

Should I bend over a lot like in the last bunch of pics you asked me to send you?





:eek:





:D

;) I keed, I keed, nothing to see here, move along...

Hedgemaster
02-23-2012, 08:41 PM
I was bored and it was 50 out today, so I got the mower out and ran it around the yard for a while.

Can't wait to try cutting grass with it.
I'm going to try and rig some sort of "cord" to the discharge chute so I can raise it while seated.

I guess I should start pricing mulching kits too.
Does anyone know if mulching works well on a mower of this type?

Maybe I should wait to see what happens when I side discharge. I just don't want to leave a mess - I'm used to mulching with my Toro SuperRecycler and I don't like to bag unless I have to.

Hedgemaster
03-07-2012, 04:25 PM
Well, it's a nice day today, and I just tried to take it out to see if it will actually fit in my trailer...


IT WON'T START!

I'm beyond pissed. Battery is good - brake on, arms in neutral, choke on, throttle midway... Rrrr err Rrrr err Rrrr err Rrrr err... nothing.

The last time I started (it a few weeks ago) it did the same, but after about 10 tries it finally chugged to life. Not today - it didn't even TRY.

I took the air cleaner out and using a funnel, poured about a tablespoon of gas in the hole. It "started" right up, but died immediately. Just burning the gas I put in and that's it I guess.



I'm calling and demanding a refund.
This is ridiculous - I haven't even cut grass with it yet.

Hedgemaster
03-07-2012, 05:04 PM
Done. They are calling later to arrange a day to come pick it up.

I have mixed feelings, but ultimately, this may be a blessing in disguise.
I was planning on picking up a used walk behind too and then some things happened and I couldn't afford to do it. Maybe I can put this money towards a good walk behind instead and wait another year or two to get a ZTR.


The timing is good. I'm going to an open house tomorrow at a Ferris/Exmark dealer. Maybe I'll get lucky and get a special offer on something.

They do have a 36" Ferris 36" Comfort Control DD for $4,999 with 3 year 0% financing. Comes to $149/mo I believe he said.

Good price?

SECTLANDSCAPING
03-07-2012, 07:50 PM
That sounds like bad gas and a gummed up carb. Did you try to drain the gas? And blow the carb out?

Hedgemaster
03-07-2012, 08:19 PM
That sounds like bad gas and a gummed up carb. Did you try to drain the gas? And blow the carb out?


Here's the kicker.

When it was delivered and it wouldn't start, we found the broken handle mount that wasn't pushing in on the cutoff switch. At that time the repair guy depressed it w/a screwdriver and started the engine - it would sputter out and die.
He ordered the new steering arm bracket AND a new carb.

When the parts arrived, he replaced the carb and started it up - no problem.

At that point, there was only about a half quart of gas in the tank and since I had no idea how long that gas was in there, I ran it dry to get rid of it. I then added two of those cans of ethanol-free canned fuel (at great expense, I might add) and ran it for about twenty minutes. I did this assuming it would be sitting for a while until spring. I figured that would be better than letting regular gas sit in there.

I think I ran it for 10-15 minutes on two occasions after that on warm days.
The last time being about a week or two ago.

I'm no mechanic, and call me crazy, but I don't think a carb should get that screwed up that fast.

I wasn't messing around with cleaning anything. At this point, I took it as a bad omen and realizing my money would be better spent on a walk behind, I figured I'd simply return it to Sears and be done with it before I took it out and found out that in addition to the other problems it doesn't cut well or something ELSE breaks.
The return policy is 30 days and it's been a little over 60, so I expected to have to fight, but they were very good about it. Full refund issued and they are picking it up.

willshome
03-07-2012, 08:28 PM
sounds like fuel cut off, most of the time wired into carb bowl. the wiring can come loose,try shaking it

Hedgemaster
03-07-2012, 08:35 PM
sounds like fuel cut off, most of the time wired into carb bowl. the wiring can come loose,try shaking it

Yeah, even with my limited mechanical knowledge, since it fired up briefly with gas poured directly in, it's clear that it's not getting fuel for some reason.
I even looked at the fuel shutoff to be sure I hadn't turned it off for some strange reason, but i's on.

Out of curiosity, I'll try your suggestion tomorrow to see what happens.

Ducke
03-07-2012, 08:36 PM
Sorry to here
But you do have loads of picture to remember it by.

"Oh look Hun there's the picture of it sitting in the driveway "
"Oh and here it is after I washed it"
"Oh oh do you remember this one that day I rode it in the snow"


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01494/elderlyCouple_1494788c.jpg

Hedgemaster
03-07-2012, 08:45 PM
Sorry to here
But you do have loads of picture to remember it by.

"Oh look Hun there's the picture of it sitting in the driveway "
"Oh and here it is after I washed it"
"Oh oh do you remember this one that day I rode it in the snow"




ROFLMAO! You crazy effer!!!

I was having a crappy day, but that made me laugh!



I regret waxing that damned thing now.

Ducke
03-08-2012, 08:18 AM
Cool
I'm Glad I made you feel a bit better
I can't imagine how you are feeling over this whole fiasco.

wandfsmall
03-08-2012, 09:13 AM
Yeah, even with my limited mechanical knowledge, since it fired up briefly with gas poured directly in, it's clear that it's not getting fuel for some reason.
I even looked at the fuel shutoff to be sure I hadn't turned it off for some strange reason, but i's on.

Out of curiosity, I'll try your suggestion tomorrow to see what happens.

I look at it this way they are taking the unit back and your not happy with it, I think your regretting the purchase. You are better off getting a commercial unit and I think this is a blessing for you. I would not try to fix it yourself just let them load it.

Hedgemaster
03-12-2012, 10:27 PM
Tomorrow morning they come to pick it up.


Out with the old and in with the new...


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Husqvarna%20RZ5424%20ZTR/Husqvarna%20RZ5424%20Outside/ZTRandReplacementFerris3.jpg


I had to move the Ferris out to PUSH the Husky out of the garage so I could get the Ferris into the back and have the Husky up front for when they come for it.

Thought it would be cool to snap a comparison pic while I still had a chance.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Husqvarna%20RZ5424%20ZTR/Husqvarna%20RZ5424%20Outside/ZTRandReplacementFerris2.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Husqvarna%20RZ5424%20ZTR/Husqvarna%20RZ5424%20Outside/ZTRandReplacementFerris1.jpg

Hedgemaster
03-13-2012, 12:03 PM
It's gone. The end.




My only regret is that I never had a chance to see how it cuts so I could comment on THAT aspect.

Steve
03-13-2012, 03:32 PM
I have a feeling it will be a short period of time before you are scaling up to a larger ztr :)

SECTLANDSCAPING
03-13-2012, 08:33 PM
Even from the pictures you can tell the difference in build quality. The Ferris frame & deck looks twice as thick.

Hedgemaster
03-13-2012, 08:49 PM
Even from the pictures you can tell the difference in build quality. The Ferris frame & deck looks twice as thick.


Absolutely.

The difference is even more extreme than night and day.

That Ferris probably has as much steel in it as my truck. LOL!
When you really LOOK at the commercial mowers you see just how THICK and sturdy everything is built.

I'm still impressed with how well the Husky was built for a consumer grade unit. I saw a Cub Cadet ZTR last week and the frame wasn't a solid square tube that wrapped around the rear like the Husky - it wasn't a "tube" at all - just a formed "shape" that was open on the bottom.



Oh well. Hope the next buyer has better luck with it. Hope they appreciate how shiny it is. :D

Johnny_boy02
03-14-2012, 02:46 AM
The new mower looks like a tank compared to the ZTR.

I have the 16 hp version of that engine on my walk behind and it is a beast, I think you will like it.