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ataboyj
09-20-2011, 08:54 PM
As fall is coming quickly, the leaves will be falling here soon. What is suggestions and ways people clean up leaves?

Ducke
09-20-2011, 08:57 PM
Call a professional they will have the Knowledge and equipment to do the Job.

Sprinkler Buddy
09-20-2011, 09:52 PM
You can have the leaves raked up, vacuumed up, or mulch them up with the mowers. I like to put that nutrients back in the lawn so I keep them mulched up until they are finished falling with the mowers. Takes some practice to become efficient mulching with the mower, that is one of the hardest things to train new help, how to mulch with the mower efficiently.

The biggest mistake I see many do is waiting until they have finished falling, they need to be mulched as they are falling. Otherwise, they become compacted over the winter and often kills the grass beneath. This is the case in the south anyhow.

ataboyj
09-20-2011, 10:14 PM
Thanks, I have been doing this for over ten years but just seeing how others do it. I mow over them and bag them, and also use leaf blowers.

CHEESE2009
09-21-2011, 08:08 PM
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/imgs/m2-flamethrower_2.jpg


It doesn't take much to clear the leaves.

ataboyj
09-21-2011, 08:23 PM
hahahahha thats sweet, where can I get one of those. haha

hansenslawncare
10-08-2011, 05:05 PM
If you don't want to pay for a lawn service to perform your fall clean up for you, you could just get a bagger for your residential lawn mower. First step would be to pick up all the twigs/branches, then mow your yard fairly short with the bagger on, let it fill up, and then just keep mowing the property, this will enable you to mulch the leaves. Second time through mowing, you'll be able to fit more per bag after the leaves have been mulched up. If your lawn isn't real big this will work fine.

dclawnfl
10-08-2011, 05:17 PM
If you don't want to pay for a lawn service to perform your fall clean up for you, you could just get a bagger for your residential lawn mower. First step would be to pick up all the twigs/branches, then mow your yard fairly short with the bagger on, let it fill up, and then just keep mowing the property, this will enable you to mulch the leaves. Second time through mowing, you'll be able to fit more per bag after the leaves have been mulched up. If your lawn isn't real big this will work fine.

no,no no you should always call your lawn guy.lol

Hedgemaster
10-08-2011, 11:24 PM
I don't think I've ever seen anyone explain how they do leaf cleanups except for the generic answers like "rake them up", or "I use a blower".

No one ever takes the time to post exactly "how" they tackle their leaves. There's obviously more to it than "blowing them".

So, what do you do with them after you blow them into a pile? Or don't you blow them into a pile?
Do you blow them against a wall before gathering them, or is it best to blow them out into an open area?
Do you use a tarp of some sort? If so, what type? Burlap? A huge blue tarp? What?
Do you dump them into your truck/trailer loose, or do you bundle them and toss them in?

Some of us don't have the luxury of learning by watching others. I've asked here before and I've seen lots of other people asking too, but I rarely see any truly helpful replies regarding leaf cleanups.

Help us noobs out, Puh-LEEEEZE! :)

I feel retarded having to ask, but while I have twenty plus years experience mowing grass, and can do all sorts of handyman stuff around the house, we don't have trees nearby, so I've never even needed to worry about leaves before. The small amount that drift into my lawn, I just mow over and chop up. My clients, on the other hand, have LEAVES!



Side note: I'm getting an Echo PB 770T in the next few days. :eek:

CHEESE2009
10-09-2011, 05:32 AM
Leaf Removal:

Blow the leaves that are scattered on the property into a nice layer on the lawn (not a pile).

Take your lawn mower, mulch them. This will compact the leaves.

Now, spread the leaves once again evenly across the lawn using the blower.

Take your lawn mower, this time you bag the leaves.

Now, empty your lawn mower bag that is full of leaf clippings into a garbage bag and use it as a pillow.

dclawnfl
10-09-2011, 12:21 PM
I don't think I've ever seen anyone explain how they do leaf cleanups except for the generic answers like "rake them up", or "I use a blower".

No one ever takes the time to post exactly "how" they tackle their leaves. There's obviously more to it than "blowing them".

So, what do you do with them after you blow them into a pile? Or don't you blow them into a pile?
Do you blow them against a wall before gathering them, or is it best to blow them out into an open area?
Do you use a tarp of some sort? If so, what type? Burlap? A huge blue tarp? What?
Do you dump them into your truck/trailer loose, or do you bundle them and toss them in?

Some of us don't have the luxury of learning by watching others. I've asked here before and I've seen lots of other people asking too, but I rarely see any truly helpful replies regarding leaf cleanups.

Help us noobs out, Puh-LEEEEZE! :)

I feel retarded having to ask, but while I have twenty plus years experience mowing grass, and can do all sorts of handyman stuff around the house, we don't have trees nearby, so I've never even needed to worry about leaves before. The small amount that drift into my lawn, I just mow over and chop up. My clients, on the other hand, have LEAVES!



Side note: I'm getting an Echo PB 770T in the next few days. :eek:



ok,so alot of people like to blow or rake onto the lawn then mulch,this is a bad idea.why ,well for 1 it leaves thatch and leaf clippings behind this will prevent the water,chemicals and so on from getting to the soil,2 it slows the air from getting to the roots.3stops new growth and if you over seed they just sit on thatch for the birds to eat.best way is to hand rake or blow into a big tarp.hope this helps.

SECTLANDSCAPING
10-09-2011, 01:52 PM
ok,so alot of people like to blow or rake onto the lawn then mulch,this is a bad idea.why ,well for 1 it leaves thatch and leaf clippings behind this will prevent the water,chemicals and so on from getting to the soil,2 it slows the air from getting to the roots.3stops new growth and if you over seed they just sit on thatch for the birds to eat.best way is to hand rake or blow into a big tarp.hope this helps.

I agree. We would never consider a lawnmower for leaf removal. Maybe if it was just a few and were already cutting. In my area leafs tend to get bad. I'm talking 5-15 yards of leaves.

We blow out the beds. Try to put all the leaves to one side of the yard, curb or a few piles. Then rake the leaves on to tarps or vacuum curbside with truck. After that you could go over the yard with a vacuum or mower with bagger to make it cleaner looking.

No matter what I tried raking works best. Its just the slowest way of doing it.

picframer
10-09-2011, 06:53 PM
I don't think I've ever seen anyone explain how they do leaf cleanups except for the generic answers like "rake them up", or "I use a blower".

No one ever takes the time to post exactly "how" they tackle their leaves. There's obviously more to it than "blowing them".

So, what do you do with them after you blow them into a pile? Or don't you blow them into a pile?
Do you blow them against a wall before gathering them, or is it best to blow them out into an open area?
Do you use a tarp of some sort? If so, what type? Burlap? A huge blue tarp? What?
Do you dump them into your truck/trailer loose, or do you bundle them and toss them in?

Some of us don't have the luxury of learning by watching others. I've asked here before and I've seen lots of other people asking too, but I rarely see any truly helpful replies regarding leaf cleanups.

Help us noobs out, Puh-LEEEEZE! :)

I feel retarded having to ask, but while I have twenty plus years experience mowing grass, and can do all sorts of handyman stuff around the house, we don't have trees nearby, so I've never even needed to worry about leaves before. The small amount that drift into my lawn, I just mow over and chop up. My clients, on the other hand, have LEAVES!



Side note: I'm getting an Echo PB 770T in the next few days. :eek:

I have many posts from last year and the year before using the tow Dr. Leaf vacs, frigging things are amazing and very quick, one to blow leaves in from along the fence, one driving the tractor with the unit.

Hedgemaster
10-09-2011, 08:41 PM
I have many posts from last year and the year before using the tow Dr. Leaf vacs, frigging things are amazing and very quick, one to blow leaves in from along the fence, one driving the tractor with the unit.


Yes, and I often see comments about using a vac to suck them right into the truck, but keep in mind that many noobs don't have the luxury of purchasing that type of equipment right off the bat, and many of us work alone.

I'd love to walk into my dealer and say "I'll take one of those and one of those, and hey, THAT would make life a lot easier - gimme one of THOSE too!"
The reality is that it's a struggle just to buy a good blower.

Just looking for tips on the basics. Any advice is good advice.

:)

Growing Green
10-09-2011, 10:53 PM
This is what I do:


Blow them all into a pile with my Stihl 550
Spread tarp out next to pile
Use rake and rake as many leaves as I can onto tarp
Then empty leaves from tarp into back of my truck
If truck fills up then I start emptying them into my trailer.


Let me know if you have any questions. I'll try to help if I can. Granted I just started the business this year too so I'm a big noob.

Matt

picframer
10-10-2011, 06:29 AM
This is what I do:


Blow them all into a pile with my Stihl 550
Spread tarp out next to pile
Use rake and rake as many leaves as I can onto tarp
Then empty leaves from tarp into back of my truck
If truck fills up then I start emptying them into my trailer.


Let me know if you have any questions. I'll try to help if I can. Granted I just started the business this year too so I'm a big noob.

Matt

Without a leaf collection system, I think what Matt suggests is the only route, where I live most do it this way however it takes so long when I opted for a commercial vac, I had little to know competition and we could not keep up so we bought another, both paid for themselves the first season and I still had a healthy profit.

Another thing you can do is put high lift mulcher blades on and go over the leaves twice, this will save a ton of room.

We always left the shredded/mulched leaves on the property and covered them with high nitrogen 30-0-0 it brakes the leaves down quick and the client can then use the compost next near.

Some properties we simply could not leave mulched leaves, we had so much business we simply passed on these properties, they were however few as I didn't work in the city core, mainly bedroom communities which had large properties.

I too used the BR550 and 600's with the leaf blower attachment as you can direct the leaves really well.

For years on my own property when money was tighter, I used a tow lawn sweeper, I still went over the leaves twice to mulch them up with my tractor then I swept and dumped, results were good to great.

Hope this helps, if my hand, it really is a tough job to do, I have never seen them at a rental store but maybe they rent mulchers. Good Luck.

Hedgemaster
10-10-2011, 11:10 PM
I figured I'd be doing the tarp thing. Just wasn't sure if there were any "tricks" to doing it efficiently.

I did one cleanup in early spring and I did the "blow them into a pile" thing then raked them onto burlap tarps, and tied the 4 corners together, then put the bundles of leaves in the trailer...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/5%20by%208%20Trailer%20Refinished/IMAG1255.jpg

The bundles take up a lot of space though even with the sides on my trailer, there's only "so much" you can fit. (5x8 trailer)

I don't know if this sounds retarded, but I was wondering if I could get more leaves in if I laid a few sheets of plywood in the bottom, then removed them at the job... throw some leaves in, lay a sheet of plywood over leaves to compress them (picture Hedge jumping up and down on it for added humor), add more leaves, add another sheet of plywood over that to compress...

Probably more work than it's worth. :o

SECTLANDSCAPING
10-11-2011, 12:33 AM
Hedge I dont see why that wouldnt work. When we used the smaller truck. We would have a guy jump on the pile to pack em in. The only problem is you then need a pitch fork to get em out.

What do you look for in a truck vacuum? I only used a tow behind and it sucked not in a good way. I believe it was rated at 10 hp. So is there a minimum like 16-18 hp?

Hedgemaster
10-12-2011, 02:14 AM
I got a call to mow a lawn today from a "casual" client - gets cut when it needs it - no regular schedule. "There are already a lot of leaves" she said.

I wasn't equipped (no trailer today) to haul leaves and we're supposed to get a few days of rain, so I did teh next best thing - I mulched them. (gasp!)

It wasn't too bad. Any more leaves and I wouldn't have done it. I tried bagging, but they leaves filled up the bag in one pass, so I scrapped that idea and mulched it all.

This is the lawn...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Blowers/DSCI0087.jpg

There's gonna be a LOT of leaves in that yard really soon, so I'll get a chance to learn how to clean up leaves - ready or not.

dclawnfl
10-12-2011, 07:17 PM
I figured I'd be doing the tarp thing. Just wasn't sure if there were any "tricks" to doing it efficiently.

I did one cleanup in early spring and I did the "blow them into a pile" thing then raked them onto burlap tarps, and tied the 4 corners together, then put the bundles of leaves in the trailer...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/5%20by%208%20Trailer%20Refinished/IMAG1255.jpg

The bundles take up a lot of space though even with the sides on my trailer, there's only "so much" you can fit. (5x8 trailer)

I don't know if this sounds retarded, but I was wondering if I could get more leaves in if I laid a few sheets of plywood in the bottom, then removed them at the job... throw some leaves in, lay a sheet of plywood over leaves to compress them (picture Hedge jumping up and down on it for added humor), add more leaves, add another sheet of plywood over that to compress...

Probably more work than it's worth. :o

looks good to me.i still use a rake and blower.dont think because you can that you will.i mean walk into your dealer and pick this and that.i can if i want but i rather pay my guy's good than to by a power whatever.