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calvarylandscapegroup
09-08-2011, 06:55 PM
Hey everyone,
I was wondering if I could get a little help with pricing for snow removal. I've tried other sites and I have had no luck at all.

I was wondering if anyone knew how to price out spreading salt, doing sidewalks and plowing residential and commericial. thanks for the help

CHEESE2009
09-08-2011, 07:08 PM
I would look into what your competition is charging. Prices don't really vary much, you'll see a 10-15 dollar difference between most companies.



Depending on how you do the service(s), the price will vary.

Also take into consideration the price you pay for the salt, etc. I know salt is really inexpensive which allows for you to make a pretty good chunk of cash. I wouldn't worry too much about it, unless you are doing parking lots/commercial walkways.

Steve
09-08-2011, 08:37 PM
Also have you experimented with the snow plow calculator (http://www.gopherforum.com/showthread.php?p=43299#post43299) here? It should help you get a understanding of what your costs are and how they effect what you bid.

calvarylandscapegroup
01-02-2013, 05:55 PM
Thanks i have not looked into the snow calculator but i will check it out.

Cashin H&P
01-02-2013, 06:42 PM
All I can add is know your operating costs, then add and hourly rate to it. For example,

I by my salt for $7 a bag, I fill my spreader with 3 at a time (150 lbs)this will do most mof my small parking lots.

One lot (1 1/2 - 2 hours ) operating cost:

Salt : $21
Gas : $20

Hourly labor rate $50 (x2)

total for lot: $141

Thats how I do it, it works for me. It may need some tweaking to work for you.

willshome
01-02-2013, 07:30 PM
Cashin $20 gas in two hours???
I think $50 an hour is low most subcontracts around here get $45 to $80
Plow Driver $30 (http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/lab/3475762092.html)
With a truck $50 (http://southcoast.craigslist.org/lab/3490363097.html)
and what about the time spent getting the salt you need to get paid for that $7 bag + $3 pickup fee = $10

SECTLANDSCAPING
01-02-2013, 07:56 PM
Cashin $20 gas in two hours???
I think $50 an hour is low most subcontracts around here get $45 to $80
Plow Driver $30 (http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/lab/3475762092.html)
With a truck $50 (http://southcoast.craigslist.org/lab/3490363097.html)
and what about the time spent getting the salt you need to get paid for that $7 bag + $3 pickup fee = $10

I'm paying subs $70-$90 a hour and drivers without a truck $25. I had a guy fill out a app wanting $120 for a truck and $90 for atv.

Salt seems cheap too. I buy it for $110 a ton and charge $330 a ton to spread. Thats a 300% mark up and includes time to spread.

150lb spreader? Is that a push spreader? Havent had much luck with those. After buying 3 different brands and having them all fail in less then 2 seasons. We now use buckets and feed the birds.

The other part that doesnt make sense is a 1 1/2-2 hours plowing and 150 lbs of salt. If its taking that long the lot should be 1 1/2 -2 1/2 acre and around 1000-1500lbs in salt.

Cashin H&P
01-02-2013, 08:41 PM
Cashin $20 gas in two hours???
I think $50 an hour is low most subcontracts around here get $45 to $80
Plow Driver $30 (http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/lab/3475762092.html)
With a truck $50 (http://southcoast.craigslist.org/lab/3490363097.html)
and what about the time spent getting the salt you need to get paid for that $7 bag + $3 pickup fee = $10

I buy my salt in bulk at the begining of the season and do VERY LITTLE salting Like I said it works for me. This last storm I averaged $65 an hour. This is just my first year and I will be doing my bidding differently next season.

willshome
01-02-2013, 10:08 PM
Cashin I am in the same boat (rethinking pricing & service area) I am spending to much time driving and need more time with my plow down making good money.
P.S. try to get more salt jobs you can make good money even when not plowable snow

Cashin H&P
01-02-2013, 10:19 PM
Cashin I am in the same boat (rethinking pricing & service area) I am spending to much time driving and need more time with my plow down making good money.
P.S. try to get more salt jobs you can make good money even when not plowable snow

My problem is that I can only use my tailgate sander until I get a bigger truck and get a vbox spreader.

willshome
01-02-2013, 10:37 PM
I have a big truck but a little sander (I would get a big one but don't want to tie up my bed all winter and need it to care snow blowers). I also don't have storage during the summer

Cashin H&P
01-03-2013, 07:39 AM
I have a big truck but a little sander (I would get a big one but don't want to tie up my bed all winter and need it to care snow blowers). I also don't have storage during the summer

My next truck will be a dedicated worl/plow truck so keeping a spreader in it all winter wont be an issue. I have big plans for next year.

SECTLANDSCAPING
01-03-2013, 09:32 AM
You guys dont even need a vbox. You can get a tailgate spreader that hold up to 1500lbs. Thats plenty enough.

I have two, one holds 700lbs and the other 1000lbs. The 700lb spreader is on a 1500 too. Its easier for me to keep logs about how much salt was used then with my v that has over 3000lbs in it.

A problem I'm having despite having vibrators is wet sand clogging up the spreader. Its mostly in storage that it happens. I know salt/sand will collect moisture even when covered but I'm working on fixing 2" of water on top of the pile. I tried totes, tarps to no avail.

I'm about to make a salt box. I'm thinking 4x4x1. Just a simple box with a latch, that will hold a yard. This way in between storms the salt wont be exposed and ill have enough on hand to refill the spreaders. This will keep it out of the bed also.

LawnCareMan280
01-03-2013, 04:49 PM
Are you doing residential or commercial? or both. Tell me soon then I can tell you what you can charge

SECTLANDSCAPING
01-03-2013, 07:59 PM
Are you doing residential or commercial? or both. Tell me soon then I can tell you what you can charge

Please do....

Cashin H&P
01-03-2013, 08:03 PM
Please do....

X2 Im very interersted in what this kid thinks is a good price, $5 bucks a drive way? haha

pfreeman
01-03-2013, 09:52 PM
Been reading the various posts. I purchased my truck, plow, and spreader last year. Then, it didn't snow a lick. I sold more contracts than I could possibly service. In order to perform, I hired a sub to just plow. We handled all of our accounts and still had room for another 1 or 2. We are charging $150 an hour for production. My sub charges me $60 an hour with his equipment. Only performing commercial and subdivision clearling, residential doesn't allow the hourly rate that we need to be profitable. Don't underprice yourself and don't be afraid to turn down work.

Cashin H&P
01-04-2013, 04:45 PM
Are you doing residential or commercial? or both. Tell me soon then I can tell you what you can charge

Have you figured out what he should be charging yet?