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myrlin
03-02-2007, 06:55 PM
Has anyone had any dealings with Tru Green?
Positive or negative or just your thougnts.

Thank you

Barry

Barry's Lawns n More

Steve
03-02-2007, 11:54 PM
Hi Barry,

Do you mean like having them do fertilization for you and you doing mowing for them?

myrlin
03-04-2007, 11:33 AM
Just in general good or bad. I just want to find out if anyone has run into any problems with them. My customers are having big problems with this outfit.

VogelLawnService
03-04-2007, 10:04 PM
i was referring my customers to trugreen for chemical applications because my company doesnt deal with chemicals. they apply way to many treatments.. burned some of my customers lawns.. never put down for the crabgrass at the right time.. so i met this guy that owns a company called lush lawn. he deals with only chemical applications and i send all my customers to him. he does a great job. never had any complaints with him. also since he onyl does chemical applications. he refers peopel to us all the time. hope this helps!

tiedeman
03-05-2007, 11:46 AM
I personally have not seen a "great" or even "good" service provided by them. Their technicans are not properly educated, they apply too much of a product and sometimes at the wrong time, and they really do not give customers any personal attention. It may take them weeks before they respond to a customer inquiry about the lawn.

Organic Lawns for America
07-06-2008, 03:43 PM
If you continue to have problems with TGCL and the other big companies you should add organic lawn care as a service that you provide. Because it is organic you don't need to carry any additional licensing. Our company started for this reason exactly. Check us out at www.organiclawnsforamerica.com. We have been in this industry for a long long time and think that this is the way the lawn care fertilization business is going to go. As distributor of our products you are able to advertise that you are a organic lawn care application company. Your customer go to our website and sign up and pay us directly. We then send you a check for 20% of the total. We deliver our products directly to your customers home and you apply them when you are there for their normal services. You don't have to worry about collecting money and you don't have to worry about choosing products or carrying inventory. If anybody wants more information hit us up.

Steve
07-06-2008, 04:51 PM
Hi Organic Lawns for America,

Thanks for joining us here. Would you like to tell us a little about how you got your start? Do you have any business advice to share with the newer start up lawn care businesses?

musician/lawnman
07-06-2008, 08:12 PM
So organic control is legal with no licensing whatsoever?
Do you have weed control products for plant beds?
also the prices seem a little low? $99 for 3 applications right?
we'd make 20% (call it $20) I understand you get the product there but I still have to spread it 3 times approx 15 min each.... 45 minutes for $20?
Would throw my averages way down. and since you bill them directly it's not like we could adjust the pricing to our local market. I've seen chemlawn companies making $70 a month all year long to treat once a month! Interesting ideas but seems cheap to me!

UniversityLandscapers
07-06-2008, 08:59 PM
I buy all my organic fertilizers from a local producer. They're more expensive than all the chemical ones, but they sell well. The only organic weed control product in existence right now is corn gluten meal...but recent field trials at the University of Washington proved in essentially useless, it's also hugely expensive. The original greenhouse trials at the University of Tennessee worked well on dandelions and a couple other weeds, but I've stopped using it now, since I haven't seen any results over the last two years.

There is one big chemical company around here called 'Weedman" that I see all over the place, but they are probably going to go out of business since most municipalities here have banned the use of pesticides for aesthetic purposes, or are going to do so very shortly.

There is another organic weed product that will be available in 2009 called Sarritor. It's been developed at McGill University in Montreal, PQ and field trials have shown amazing results on dandelions. The thing that annoys me is that these things only control dandelions...I don't know much about the science behind this stuff, but how does something that stops the germination of dandelions not work on anything else?

Organic Lawns for America
07-07-2008, 03:14 PM
To address the concern with the 20% and how it seems cheap. The scenario you set up is for three treatments on a tiny lawn. The $99 is for a 1-4K sq. ft lawn and it is relatively inexpensive because it is only for half the year and includes relatively inexpensive treatments. (As stated below corn gluten is very expensive and our second treatment (organic weed control...yes organic weed control is VERY expensive.)

Here is how a typical situation would play out. Your customer purchases a program from us. Let's make a few assumptions here. First off, you are a maintenance company that makes a weekly mowing visit to the home. The home is a well maintained 10K lawn and is a quick mow. Your customer signs up at our site and pays $500 for our service. We send you a check for $100 and you have managed to add a very desirable service to your offerings. You are there on a weekly basis anyway so you are not going out of your way to perform the treatment. You don't have to carry any inventory and you don't have to chase the customer for the money.

We have heard from a few companies that are interested in doing this the other way where they purchase the products from us and then adjust the price for their customers and that is perfectly fine too.

The whole concept here is to create some sort of a coop that can compete against the larger companies that have created a monopoly in our industry. With the skyrocketing costs of chemical fertilizers and control products combined with the public perception that chemical lawn care is evil (and it just may be) this is a great way to compete with corporate lawn care.

I understand your concern with bringing your averages down and this system will not work effectively if you are making an additional stop to perform the treatment. In that case you could purchase our products directly and adjust the price list accordingly.

musician/lawnman
07-07-2008, 10:31 PM
I would been there already that's not the point. I average about a buck a minute including my driving time for each day, I run a 2 man crew & I run it efficiently. $20 for 45 minutes spent just doesn't do it for me sir. that's less than half of a good production rate. So even a one man operation that averages around $30-$35 per hour still spends 45 minutes applying the product for $20. Still less than what he should be making too.
I am not slamming your product or service by any means, please don't take me that way. I'm just stating it doesn't seem profitable for most lawn care providers myself included.

Steve
07-08-2008, 05:27 AM
I am thinking there are a bunch of ways that you could go to promote this concept and the more ways you try, the more potential you have at finding success.

Have you considered creating some kind of franchise? Where you bring in someone who wants to start an organic lawn business and train them how to run such a business?

I would been there already that's not the point. I average about a buck a minute including my driving time for each day, I run a 2 man crew & I run it efficiently. $20 for 45 minutes spent just doesn't do it for me sir. that's less than half of a good production rate. So even a one man operation that averages around $30-$35 per hour still spends 45 minutes applying the product for $20. Still less than what he should be making too.

If this is the view Chuck has on it, I wonder if his demographic would be your ideal target client. Maybe he could charge a premium and make up for that money by promoting it is organic.

If not, then maybe this concept would get a better response from a new startup who needs not only organic products but business training on how to run it all?

Maybe they you could also help them run more of their back office and allow them to focus on the work?

Anyone have thoughts on this they could share?