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Robc
04-19-2011, 02:36 AM
Hey i haven't been on here for about 3 years due to a vacation I was forced to take from previous bad choices in life. But i started my own lawncare/landscaping biz with alot of time spent on here getting help from the people on here. It was Green Image landscaping but now its called Backyard Escapes.
Before i left i turned everything over to one of my friends and he kept it going and grew the biz. And he grew it to big to fast, learned alot from mistakes, and now its me and him starting fresh this season with probably just one or two employess instead of 8.

Steve you've done alot on here since i been on here a few years ago and I really like what youve provided on here to help us out!

Paineless Creations
04-19-2011, 08:20 AM
Welcome back to the forum. Where about in Washington are you? I am located in the Tri-Cities

Steve
04-19-2011, 08:36 PM
Hi Rob,

Welcome back!

Can you tell us about some of the business and life lessons you learned throughout all this experience and how you are using it to improve yourself now?

Robc
04-20-2011, 11:07 AM
Welcome back to the forum. Where about in Washington are you? I am located in the Tri-Cities

I am about 30 min north of Seattle in Marysville...

Steve-Before I left I was running the business by myself but I had one employee working for me. Now it will be myself and my friend who is now also my business partner. But from what I have experienced so far if you go in together with someone to do business together make sure you have the same work ethic and goals. We will be hiring 1 or 2 guys because there is so much work its hard to keep up doing jobs, the mainetance route, bids, and the rest of the administrative/paper work for just the 2 of us.
I'm still trying to figure out if I enjoyed running the business by myself better than with a partner. Everyone has ways they like to do things and we have our differences but there also is alot of potential that I can see between the 2 of us.
Getting work and doing it is easy to me. Its figuring out how to run and grow your business the right way - successfully is what will be a learning curve for me. But i guess I will be going off what he has learned while I was gone .My partner has already experienced this - growing to fast and losing control of the quality of work that was being done by people working for him who dont care about what they doing because its not there business... And budgeting money and staying busy through winter...

ToastedToad
04-20-2011, 12:57 PM
Greetings to another Pac Nor' Wester. Over here on the Olympic Peninsula.

Good luck on your new start!

Steve
04-20-2011, 01:45 PM
This is very interesting. Let's take a deeper look at it.

Its figuring out how to run and grow your business the right way - successfully is what will be a learning curve for me.

Are there certain parts of growing your business the right way that stump you?

My partner has already experienced this - growing to fast and losing control of the quality of work that was being done by people working for him who dont care about what they doing because its not there business

How was he operating things? How many employees did he have and how was he managing them?

Where do you feel he went wrong and how do you feel you would do things differently now?

Robc
04-21-2011, 01:46 AM
I dont know if its really that I'm stumped. I think its just actually going out there and doing it. I think its a delicate balance of knowing when to make that jump and having everything to support taking the next step. I know growing to fast doesnt usually work out to good. While I was gone he experienced this. For now it will just be hiring one or two guys. This will open up more time for bids, sales, and staying on top of paperwork and getting more work done. We will be growing slowly and not much this year because this is basically a fresh start for both of us

While I was gone he had 8 employees and they were poorly managed. He had a huge county contract and all the Jack n the boxes in out county. Plus a whole bunch of residential over 150 and a couple of HOA's. Alot of what was suppose to be getting done at customers properties wasnt getting done due to the guys being lazy. All of the equipment, trucks, and trailers received a severe beating. Customers requests werent being attended to causing people to cancel service.
So alot of the money made was put back into payroll, taxes, L&I, and repairs on trucks and equipment. Poorly managed and under paid employees was a big problem.
I think having fewer higher paid guys that care with a smaller but profitable customer base is alot better. And thats what we will be focusing on now and possibly shifting more towards landscape construction.

Does any of this kind of answer your questions Steve?

Hey Toaster Toad! It rains more on the pennisula than here... that must not be to fun

Steve
04-21-2011, 11:48 PM
Yea it's amazing how everyone's dream is to make big money and get as many accounts as they can. In fact there seems to be this mad dash race to do this. But no one ever seems to think about all the back end stuff that needs to be run and organized in order for everything to work properly. No one ever thinks a business can implode until it actually happens to them.

Paineless Creations
04-28-2011, 11:59 PM
Greetings to another Pac Nor' Wester. Over here on the Olympic Peninsula.

Good luck on your new start!

Hey are you near Hansville/Kingston. I might have some work for you. Let me know

SpokaneSRC
04-29-2011, 04:01 PM
Welcome back Rob. Good luck with everything. Sounds like you have a good idea on how to make things happen.
Hi to all fellow Washingtonians. (Not sure if that's what we're called).

Robc
04-30-2011, 08:47 PM
Thanks guys.
I'm actually about 40 minutes straight up I-5 from Seattle...

The Cleaning Doctor
04-30-2011, 09:42 PM
better there than 40 minutes south of where you are. I grew up in Yelm about 16 miles east of Olympia.

Paineless Creations
04-30-2011, 09:52 PM
Since this is a washington thread. I looking to get my applicators license, to be legit to apply fertilizer. How do I go about getting it in washington state, anybody know?

Steve
05-01-2011, 12:33 PM
Pesticide Management Division
Registration Services
PO Box 42589
Olympia WA 98504-2589
Telephone: (360)902-2025
Tonnage: (360)902-2080
Fax: (360)902-2093
E-mail: fertreg@agr.wa.gov

http://agr.wa.gov/Pestfert/Fertilizers/docs/FertRegGuidDoc.pdf

This should help.

Keep us posted on how all this turns out.

SpokaneSRC
05-05-2011, 11:33 PM
That Steve is on it.
I've done a lot of checking. The best I can tell (for Washington State - where spring will eventually come) is you need to be licensed for pesticides and herbicides but not to apply fertilizer. But that will probably change with the phosphorus legislation that passed.

Anybody have different information on it?

Steve
05-06-2011, 01:38 PM
Can you send the fertilization license question to that email address? I am thinking they will want you licensed to apply fertilizer.

SpokaneSRC
05-06-2011, 05:18 PM
I sent them an email asking if you need to be licensed to apply fertilizer to residential or commercial lawns in Washington State.
I will post the reply here when I get it.

Paineless Creations
05-06-2011, 09:30 PM
I sent them an email asking if you need to be licensed to apply fertilizer to residential or commercial lawns in Washington State.
I will post the reply here when I get it.

Great look forward to it.

Paineless Creations
05-06-2011, 09:31 PM
Pesticide Management Division
Registration Services
PO Box 42589
Olympia WA 98504-2589
Telephone: (360)902-2025
Tonnage: (360)902-2080
Fax: (360)902-2093
E-mail: fertreg@agr.wa.gov

http://agr.wa.gov/Pestfert/Fertilizers/docs/FertRegGuidDoc.pdf

This should help.

Keep us posted on how all this turns out.

Thanks!!!!

SpokaneSRC
05-07-2011, 01:04 AM
Ok the reply I got from agr.wa.gov is that you do NOT need an applicators license in Washington State to apply fertilizer. But if you are going to do fertilizer for clients, you should know about the phosphorus legislation that passed recently. Run a search for it in Washington State. I don't think it takes effect until next year, but better to be aware of it. Not a big deal.

Steve
05-07-2011, 01:47 PM
Thats good! Keep us posted on how all this turns out for you.

Paineless Creations
05-07-2011, 07:48 PM
Ok the reply I got from agr.wa.gov is that you do NOT need an applicators license in Washington State to apply fertilizer. But if you are going to do fertilizer for clients, you should know about the phosphorus legislation that passed recently. Run a search for it in Washington State. I don't think it takes effect until next year, but better to be aware of it. Not a big deal.

Wow thanks so much for the info!!. Giving you a big high 5 from Richland

Robc
05-14-2011, 10:46 AM
better there than 40 minutes south of where you are. I grew up in Yelm about 16 miles east of Olympia.

I dont know about that... I live in the convergence zone and a good percentage of the time it will be raining in Marysville/Everett but as soon as i drive closer to Seattle its usually dry... A few miles to the south wouldnt be to bad. lol