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cruzgardening
04-13-2011, 02:35 AM
Hey guys just thought i mention i'm going to power rake/de-thatch 3 lawns tomorrow it will be the first time i do it on my own, since i use to watch my co-workers do it at the company i use to work for, and well it will be a learning experience. The properties i am using the machine at have at least 1 in of thatch and one of them told me his grass dies off during summer, he has St Agustin grass, i just submited a soil test to a lab it came out that the lawn needs more iron we bought the vigoro super feed fertilizer for this client which has Iron and we also got a high nitrogen since the growing season started already here in California. I will remove the thatch and will add the fertilizer right after and set up the timer to water a bit more then usual at this time of the year just so we can get a nice lawn. i will take pictures of the process hope you guys enjoy the ride.


One account will be thatch in the front yard only and the other 2 will be both back and front i will give you guys all the details and info when its done.

Do you guys have any recommendations for me just in case? lol

Steve
04-13-2011, 11:07 AM
What kind of equipment are you using to perform this? Did you have to buy equipment for this job or were you able to rent it?

Liberty Landscaping LLC
04-13-2011, 01:22 PM
Same question as Steve what are you using? What is the process you will follow to De-Thatch the land? Use the machine then rake or something?

cruzgardening
04-14-2011, 01:41 AM
Same question as Steve what are you using? What is the process you will follow to De-Thatch the land? Use the machine then rake or something?

What kind of equipment are you using to perform this? Did you have to buy equipment for this job or were you able to rent it?

hey guys well my day was amazing i have some pictures of 3 of the properties i used a rental from my local shop they had the
Classen Turf Dethatcher With a honda engine this machine did an amazing job i was going to get the machine with the bag but it would of cost me $50 more and it would cut into my earnings so i decided not to get the one with the bag.

anyhow the pictures are posted and there are more to be posted of course this is the before pictures i will post the after in a few weeks

BTW the process is as follows: I mow the lawn the shortest height recommended for St Agustin grass,1 inch, then i run the thatcher machine to go at least 3/4 of an inch deep no deeper since i dont want to cut into the ground now i pass it only once going one way and unlike other grasses St Agustin will get damaged if i run the machine again... so i just run the machine one way and after im done i rake everything into piles

cruzgardening
04-14-2011, 02:18 AM
hey guys well my day was amazing i have some pictures of 3 of the properties i used a rental from my local shop they had the
Classen Turf Dethatcher With a honda engine this machine did an amazing job i was going to get the machine with the bag but it would of cost me $50 more and it would cut into my earnings so i decided not to get the one with the bag.

anyhow the pictures are posted and there are more to be posted of course this is the before pictures i will post the after in a few weeks

BTW the process is as follows: I mow the lawn the shortest height recommended for St Agustin grass,1 inch, then i run the thatcher machine to go at least 3/4 of an inch deep no deeper since i dont want to cut into the ground now i pass it only once going one way and unlike other grasses St Agustin will get damaged if i run the machine again... so i just run the machine one way and after im done i rake everything into piles

finally here is the right pictures enjoy guys

http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_1.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=1)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_2.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=2)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_3.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=3)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_4.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=4)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_5.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=5)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_6.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=6)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_7.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=7)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_8.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=8)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_9.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=9)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_10.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=10)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_11.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=11)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_12.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=12)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_13.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=13)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_14.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=14)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_15.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=15)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_16.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=16)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_17.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=17)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_18.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=18)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_19.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=19)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_20.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=20)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_21.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=21)

cruzgardening
04-14-2011, 12:12 PM
2 of my clients called today and they love what i did haha turns out they thought the lawn was going to look dead after the thatch removal job haha

finally here is the right pictures enjoy guys

http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_1.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=1)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_2.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=2)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_3.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=3)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_4.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=4)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_5.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=5)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_6.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=6)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_7.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=7)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_8.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=8)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_9.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=9)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_10.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=10)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_11.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=11)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_12.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=12)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_13.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=13)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_14.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=14)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_15.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=15)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_16.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=16)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_17.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=17)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_18.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=18)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_19.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=19)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_20.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=20)http://media.use.com/images/s_2/fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c68_21.jpg (http://www.use.com/Before_and_After_Thatching_Jobs_fa0bc877fcaa1f6c0c 68?p=21)

Steve
04-14-2011, 03:15 PM
That looks great!

Do you have any advise on the best way to bid such jobs and how to perform them?

Do you feel you learned any lessons from these jobs?

cruzgardening
04-14-2011, 11:11 PM
Do you have any advise on the best way to bid such jobs and how to perform them?
the bidding process is different for an existing account then for a new costumer, if i have an existing client who needs the service i would try to get at least another 2 more of my accounts to get the thatching service and try to put them on the same day, i can easily do 6 lawns a day with help at $100 each.

if its a new client i would charge them double the price unless they want me to take care of their lawn with a yearly contract then i would drop it down to $140.

the advice i would give on doing this job is to learn the right way of thatching the type of grass you are removing the thatch from, for turf you can go over it at a 90 degree angle but if u did this with St Agustin you might kill the grass, also keep an eye on the height of the blades you want to thatch not till the lawn.
Do you feel you learned any lessons from these jobs?

I learned a really good lesson use Flags to spot your sprinklers, i broke 3 on the first house haha good thing i always carry spares :) also check the height before you start using the machine or you will go deeper then needed.

CHEESE2009
04-15-2011, 09:01 AM
Great job man!


These jobs can be pretty time consuming, but the look after is worth it.

I should have taken before and after pictures and joined you on here. I did a big job yesterday and man, it's amazing what you'll find.

Steve
04-15-2011, 12:28 PM
the bidding process is different for an existing account then for a new costumer, if i have an existing client who needs the service i would try to get at least another 2 more of my accounts to get the thatching service and try to put them on the same day, i can easily do 6 lawns a day with help at $100 each.

if its a new client i would charge them double the price unless they want me to take care of their lawn with a yearly contract then i would drop it down to $140.

What do you do if you can't get additional customers to go with the new customer wanting the service? Does that then effect your bid price?

cruzgardening
04-15-2011, 01:06 PM
What do you do if you can't get additional customers to go with the new customer wanting the service? Does that then effect your bid price?
the bidding process is kind of complicated i would say.

usually new clients pay more with out a contract.
my existing clients will pay $100 only if they have the advance package, if they have the regular package they pay $140. Most of my clients have the advace package and the ones who don't hardly ask for extra jobs.

so if a new client asks for thatch removal job and no other clietns wants it i charge him the flat $200 if they get the advance maintenace contract i drop it to $140 if they get the regular contract i give it to them for $160. I have to rent the machine and pay my help but the machine is cheap and my guys is on an hourly rate so its not that bad and i still make money.

hope this helps :)



Great job man!


These jobs can be pretty time consuming, but the look after is worth it.

I should have taken before and after pictures and joined you on here. I did a big job yesterday and man, it's amazing what you'll find.

they are time consuming specially the larger ones, but where i live the lawns don't get as big as where you guys are at, there are almost No 1 acre lawns here the regular house is set up on a lot that is average 2500sqft including the lawn so you guys can imagine i only take one to two hours to do the job since most are St Agustin n i only do one pass on this type of lawn.

you should take some pics and add them here of the current jobs this way we see the difference :)