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Hedgemaster
08-22-2010, 10:48 PM
Help.
(posting from phone, bear w/me)
My trimmer crapped out on me before I had a chance to upgrade to a commercial trimmer. (just starting out)
I need one quickly, and rather than buying cheap, I want to spend money on a good one that will last.

That said, I'm posting from the vet ER waiting room, so there goes the money I thought I had saved up. Sigh.

Looking for something that is "attachment capable" and able to cut tall grasses/weeds as well as routine trimming. Want to add attachments over time.

Locally I'm looking at:
Stihl (combi system?) From Stihl dealer - $369?
Echo split boom (Home Depot) $299
Husqvarna (Lowes) $199

If I were on computer Id look up model numbers, but in mean time, any guidance welcome.

I'm about to head home... will try to post the exact models later.

Thanks!

CheapNEasy
08-22-2010, 11:44 PM
I would recommend just getting a stihl or echo weedeater, I have used both, loved my echo but the dealer was such a hassle when you had to wait half an hour to get a simple part thats instock.

I use Stihl now, reason why I recommend a dedicated unit, you have a motor dedicated only too the weedeater.... so if it goes out, you only lose that piece of equipment.... Sure its "extra maintenance" (WTF Ever people, you get less hours of use on each motor and it lasts longer for you, so think ahead.... spend the extra money to have an extra motor that will actually pay for itself.)


I love the idea of the combo units.... FOR HOME OWNERS, or for equipment not used as often, maybe a pole saw/hedge trimmer would be good for a combo unit...


Pay the "Extra" money and get just a weedeater and an edger.... Youll be happy you did when that edger or weedeater craps out and you can still do one or the other and maybe make up the missed part next visit in the area.


Just my thoughts.... to each his own.

Hedgemaster
08-23-2010, 12:20 AM
Home now. $375 vet bill sure doesn't help any with my trimmer buying decision.

I'm too tired to look up the models now, but the $199 Husqvarna is looking better based upon price alone. I'm going to cancel some work I had planned for tomorrow and stop at the Stihl dealer near me to see what kind of cash I'm looking at.
I know the Stihl FS 55/56 series isn't billed as "commercial", but I'm wondering if it would be better than the Husq and Echo from Lowes/Home Depot...

I hate rushing into purchases before researching.

jasonw
08-23-2010, 02:34 AM
I use the 4 stroke troybilt strait shaft trimmer that takes attachments. I use the trimmer, tiller, brush cutter and pole saw attachment so far and I am very happy with it. Its going on its 2nd season of getting beat on not only in business but on my small farm as well as getting a little use on our ranch. No problems thuis far,

picframer
08-23-2010, 05:45 AM
I would suggest the Stihl Kombi, we use them and haven't had any issues, in your case because you are buying from the dealer that is a big bonus in the event that you have an issue vs a big box store which has no service dept.

Chachi
08-23-2010, 08:41 AM
The echo combo from Home depot is a nice investment. Mine runs like a champ and I put it through hell and back. These guys are right about having separate equipment however I haven't had any trouble with the echo pas 225(combo unit). I also run a Toro that is pretty good as well.

SuperiorPower
08-23-2010, 02:36 PM
I would suggest the Stihl Kombi, we use them and haven't had any issues, in your case because you are buying from the dealer that is a big bonus in the event that you have an issue vs a big box store which has no service dept.

Andy makes a good point. Buy from a dealer. If you buy from Lowes, Home Depot, or the like you will find they do not have a service department you can depend on. If you choose to go with Husqvarna or Echo, at least but them from the local dealer. You may pay a few extra pennies but it will be worth it in the end.

ALWAYS buy from a business that has an "on-site" Service Department. You won't regret it. Lowes and Home Depot have a service department of sorts where they send your machine off to some unknown shop where they will "fix" things but you will never see the mechanic. Not recommended.

DillonB92
08-23-2010, 08:35 PM
I have the Husqvarna 128 LD. I have nothing bad to say about it. I was just starting out so i thought it would be good for a few years. This is still my first season with it but i haven't had any problems with it! It will cut through anything. It has more Torque and power than you can ask for. I haven't had any problems from it. I love it! How ever I was told by someone at lowes that the attachments they sell are only for the Troybuilt and bolens weed eaters. The dude said it wouldn't work with the husqvarna. Then i asked someone else and they said it would. So you may have to ask. The edger attachment that i am looking to buy is i believe $70. Seems high especially when you compare it to the ones at lowes. But hey if the one at lowes will work with the husqvarna then thats all that matters.

Hedgemaster
08-23-2010, 08:59 PM
I stopped by the Stihl dealer and after mentioning "attachments", I was pointed in the direction of the FS 90 R which has the same engine as the KM 90 R KombiMotor, but is a dedicated straight shaft trimmer that easily accepts attachments at the end. He showed me how easy it was to swap the trimmer head out, and while not quite as convenient as the KombiSystem, it was a very simple process.

The FS 90 R is $299

The comparable KombiMotor is $289 with a $100 for the trimmer attachment.
$389 is out of the question at the moment, so I'm now weighing the benefits/drawbacks and trying to decide between the $299 Stilhl FS 90 R (http://www.stihlusa.com/trimmers/FS90R.html) dedicated trimmer, that I can add rather pricey attachments to, or the $299 Echo Split shaft (http://shop.echo-usa.com/Product/Product.aspx?model=SRM-225SB)... that seems to have attachments that are equally pricey. Sigh.

The Stihl is 28.4 cc
The Echo is 21.2 cc

I don't know if that will make a world of difference, but let's say I have a small yard with "grass" that's 3' high... would the Echo "cut it", or would the Stihl be the better choice?

My only real concern with the Stihl is the 4Mix engine. I know nothing of these new 4 stroke gas/oil gadgets, and maintenance has me a little concerned.

Anyway, enough of my rambling... I'll need to get something in the next day or two, and when I sat down to type this I was leaning toward the Echo, as it's at a lower price (vs the Stihl Kombi), but considering the above mentioned models are both $299, and either way, the attachments will be expensive, I'm wondering if I should just go for the Stihl?

I could complicate things by asking my dealer for a price on his Echo split shaft... I forgot to, but he said they sell the models with the larger engine than Home Depot sells...

You think THIS is bad, you should have seen me try to decide what truck to buy. LOL

Thanks again for all the input thus far - it really is helpful!

picframer
08-24-2010, 06:22 AM
21 cc is light if you get into heavy/tall grass. brush etc.

I guess the question is based on your past what is this unit to be used for? If you only trim current lawns the 21cc would be fine, if you are getting into clean up's my experience is the bigger the better as we use a host of clearing attachments and I like 36 to 41.

Hedgemaster
08-24-2010, 10:40 PM
Decision:

Going to get the Stihl FS 90 R on Thursday.

justin_time
08-24-2010, 10:56 PM
Decision:

Going to get the Stihl FS 90 R on Thursday.

That's what I got, I have mine since 2007 and still runs :)

CheapNEasy
08-25-2010, 01:07 AM
I use the FS 90R's.... Mine arent 4 cycle.... uses regular 2cycle mix.

I dont think they have two models with the same model numbers with different engines.....

Hedgemaster
08-25-2010, 06:56 AM
I use the FS 90R's.... Mine arent 4 cycle.... uses regular 2cycle mix.

I dont think they have two models with the same model numbers with different engines.....

Yeah, that's what I mentioned in an earlier post... it's the 4Mix engine, and I hope it isn't something I regret. I don't know how well that design is working out.

picframer
08-25-2010, 07:02 AM
Yeah, that's what I mentioned in an earlier post... it's the 4Mix engine, and I hope it isn't something I regret. I don't know how well that design is working out.

We have at least 9 units with 4Mix, never an issue and most of them are used and probably abused every day, they always start by the second pull and one of the best designs I have seen. Even speaking with the service guys at Deere whom I am close friends with, it is rare they see a 4Mix in and they are by far the largest Stihl dealer around.

Hedgemaster
08-25-2010, 10:23 PM
We have at least 9 units with 4Mix, never an issue and most of them are used and probably abused every day, they always start by the second pull and one of the best designs I have seen. Even speaking with the service guys at Deere whom I am close friends with, it is rare they see a 4Mix in and they are by far the largest Stihl dealer around.

Thanks. I generally don't accept one man's opinion as "fact" (especially on teh interwebs), but this forum doesn't seem to have as many contributing posters as some unrelated forums I'm active in, and from the little bit of time I've spent here, it seems yours are opinions that are worthy of consideration.

That was a pretty long winded compliment, wasn't it?

;)



Dealer opens at 8am!!! I may not sleep tonight!
No, wait, that's the poison ivy that is keeping me awake. :mad:

Hedgemaster
08-26-2010, 09:51 PM
Here it is. Woo-hoo! My first piece of commercial grade equipment.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/104_5640.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/104_5642.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/104_5641.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/104_5644.jpg

They threw in a 6 pack of oil, a spool of line, and installed the barrier bar for me. I was given a new one out of the box rather than one that was out on the floor, it was filled with fuel, started up, and I was shown how the head is disassembled as well as how to put more trimmer line on the spool. That's the difference between buying from a dealer and buying at a big box store, I guess.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/104_5645.jpg

I used it for a few minutes today, but tomorrow, I have some 2-3' tall "grass" that I need to have a conversation with. ;)

picframer
08-27-2010, 05:09 AM
Looks great.

One thing about these Stihl engines on cold starting, push the primer twice, turn the choke on, turn the start switch to on, hold the throttle wide open while giving it a pull, ours start 90% of the time on the first pull, turn the choke off and off you go.

The six pack of oil gets you an additional year of warranty with Stihl, make sure the dealer registered it for you.

Hedgemaster
08-27-2010, 11:29 PM
Looks great.

One thing about these Stihl engines on cold starting, push the primer twice, turn the choke on, turn the start switch to on, hold the throttle wide open while giving it a pull, ours start 90% of the time on the first pull, turn the choke off and off you go.

The six pack of oil gets you an additional year of warranty with Stihl, make sure the dealer registered it for you.

I tried that today - it worked. Thanks!

I asked about the "oil thing" when I stopped in to buy a new gas can - he had never heard of that. I swear I herd him mumbling something about Canadians under his breath though.

;)


Here she is again. Not so clean now...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Lot%20Clearing/104_5666.jpg



went from this...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Lot%20Clearing/104_5660.jpg


to this...
(This was as much as the client wanted done, or I would have cleaned up more)

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Lot%20Clearing/104_5674.jpg


Taking a refueling break...

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Lot%20Clearing/104_5667.jpg

picframer
08-28-2010, 04:34 AM
I tried that today - it worked. Thanks!

I asked about the "oil thing" when I stopped in to buy a new gas can - he had never heard of that. I swear I herd him mumbling something about Canadians under his breath though.



Excellent, now for that heavy stuff the largest line this unit will run is the Red Stihl, no idea the size as we have about 8 strings depending on the machine and what they are doing. I used the red in a FS130 last night to clean the driveway, then daughter came by on one of the tractors, showing off.....

As for the oil/warranty, It could be a promo here in Canada, no idea.

Hedgemaster
03-19-2011, 12:11 AM
UPDATE:


I picked up a Stihl, articulating hedge trimmer attachment for it today!
I was debating the purchase of an edger attachment, but I think the hedge trimmer will be more useful in the long run. I have a decent Craftsman hedge trimmer, but this baby will give me more "ooompf!" for cutting the heavy stuff as well as extended reach.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Stihl%20Hedge%20Trimmer%20Attachment/104_6252.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Stihl%20Hedge%20Trimmer%20Attachment/104_6249.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Stihl%20Hedge%20Trimmer%20Attachment/104_6254.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Stihl%20Hedge%20Trimmer%20Attachment/104_6257.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Stihl%20Hedge%20Trimmer%20Attachment/104_6255.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Stihl%20Hedge%20Trimmer%20Attachment/104_6256.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Stihl%20Hedge%20Trimmer%20Attachment/104_6258.jpg



and folded into the transport/storage position...


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Stihl%20Hedge%20Trimmer%20Attachment/104_6261.jpg


Just loosen two screws on the string trimmer head, slide it off, slip on the hedge trimmer attachment, tighten, and it's ready to go - takes about 60 seconds.

They sell two models - a "straight" one, and this articulating model that has 13 locking positions. Some features are worth the added cost, and even though it's a lot of money for an attachment, it would run me twice that for a dedicated unit.

I got lucky in that a guy I know told me they were having an open house today at the local dealer - everything was 10% off. :)
Reg. $229.
Today it was $204 for a savings of $25.

(I also bought the Toro push mower seen above and got all sorts of free goodies too)


I saved $77 today due to blind luck. Had I not been told about the open house, I would have missed out.
Heck, I saved more than that actually... he tossed in an $18 fuel can (that I asked to buy) for free.
I also got samples of fuel additive (to fight that friggin' ethanol) to treat 30 gal of gas, a Stihl t-shirt, A Toro hat, safety glasses, a Toro mug, a digital tire pressure gauge, and a padded trimmer shoulder strap.
It was like Christmas in July... in March!

:)

jymie
03-19-2011, 03:41 AM
Very nice looking unit. I have a hedge attachment for my echo. Here's a tip that I have found useful. You will find that it will seem a bit heavy. Move your hand forward past the large round handle when you use it, it will seem lighter and give you better control of it as you try to trim.

Hedgemaster
03-19-2011, 01:48 PM
Very nice looking unit. I have a hedge attachment for my echo. Here's a tip that I have found useful. You will find that it will seem a bit heavy. Move your hand forward past the large round handle when you use it, it will seem lighter and give you better control of it as you try to trim.

I'll keep that in mind.
This will come in handy for the 8' hedges in my yard.

Can't wait to try it out.

Dean Hipps
03-19-2011, 02:43 PM
I have the Sthil 110R, I can say one thing about these, They are really tough. I replaced a Husqvarna 226lxi, It lasted 7 years. The difference I noticed between the two. The Sthil doen't bog like the Husky did, but it does not rev up like the Husky did either. After using the Sthil one season, I am VERY pleased with it. I will add another one some time this year. The Sthil weighs a little more then the Husky, but the cut is worth it. I could bog the Husky, I haven't bogged the sthil as of yet. Haven't cut the same grass thou, but I am comparing what I remember of the 226 of a few years ago with that of the 110 now. I will only buy Sthil now. They are worth the $$.

Hedgemaster
05-05-2012, 10:11 PM
Old thread back from the dead...


I picked up an edger attachment for the Stihl today.

I have a crappy homeowner unit with a split shaft/attachments that I use for the occasional edging jobs. Well, the ONE time I needed to edge, the lousy thing wouldn't run, so I said screw it, and went and got the better edger attachment for the Stihl.

I'll have to post pics.


BTW, I am still happy with the Stihl. It's not starting up as quickly as it used to, but overall, it's been a good unit. The hedge trimmer attachment has gotten a lot of use, and was certainly a wise investment.

OziGardenGuy
05-06-2012, 06:20 AM
I found it better to choose a light, but high quality line cutter for edging, etc and a rougher but larger capacity (33cc or greater) for the heavy stuff.

Keep the 'nice' unit nice. Thrash the 'beast'.

The nice unit, maybe a small straight-shaft Tanaka, is light and fast for quality domestic clients. Fit it with the right line and it's a very powerful tool that is light on line use and easier on your body. The 'beast' unit (maybe a lower-cost import multi-tool), can be run on blades, mini hedge trimmer, mini chainsaw, etc.

Also, you then have a back-up if your primary fine quality unit fails, and also put the hard and dirty brush-cutting work (slashing 1/4 - 1/2 acre feral lots, etc) onto the heavier unit whose higher-torque motor can handle more punishment, albeit at a higher fuel expense per hour.

Cheers - GardenGuy.

Hedgemaster
05-13-2012, 06:54 PM
Here's the new edger attachment!

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Stihl%20Edger%20Attachment/20120511_135242.jpg


http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Stihl%20Edger%20Attachment/20120511_135255.jpg


This was the first time I used it. The grass isn't cut and walk wasn't blown yet.
It completely blows the homeowner unit out of the water in terms of powering through the dirt. This attachment isn't as fast to swap as the hedge trimmer attachment I have, so eventually, I'll probably buy a dedicated edger.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy309/IntegrityLawnCare/Lawn%20Care/Equipment/Stihl%20Edger%20Attachment/20120511_140404.jpg

Steve
05-14-2012, 09:15 AM
Oh that does look nice!

Shark1611
05-14-2012, 06:41 PM
Help.
(posting from phone, bear w/me)
My trimmer crapped out on me before I had a chance to upgrade to a commercial trimmer. (just starting out)
I need one quickly, and rather than buying cheap, I want to spend money on a good one that will last.

That said, I'm posting from the vet ER waiting room, so there goes the money I thought I had saved up. Sigh.

Looking for something that is "attachment capable" and able to cut tall grasses/weeds as well as routine trimming. Want to add attachments over time.

Locally I'm looking at:
Stihl (combi system?) From Stihl dealer - $369?
Echo split boom (Home Depot) $299
Husqvarna (Lowes) $199

If I were on computer Id look up model numbers, but in mean time, any guidance welcome.

I'm about to head home... will try to post the exact models later.

Thanks!

I love Redmax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hedgemaster
05-14-2012, 07:03 PM
I love Redmax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're about 2 years too late, but I'll keep that in mind. ;)

Island Lawn Care
05-18-2012, 01:36 PM
the lowes one.....Husky 128LD is a ok trimmer. but i find its SUPER heavy compared to other nicer Stihls and echos.