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renecooke87
04-18-2010, 03:29 PM
What lawn care chemcials do you use?
What do you use them for?
Where do you get them from?

swstout
04-18-2010, 03:46 PM
What lawn care chemcials do you use?
What do you use them for?
Where do you get them from?

I use a few suppliers but the main one is http://www.natureslawn.com

Steve

kdexpd
04-18-2010, 09:38 PM
I get all mine from Home Depot and Farm Stores. I spoke with our University Extension Office about having to get a license. They gave me some paperwork and told me I'm not required to get a license if I use consumer grade fertilizers and herbicides. I've had people argue the fact with me, but these are the people who are the inspectors, and the ones I have to deal with so I believe them. I use granular fertilizers only and also use liquid 2-4-D for weed control. When I need death and destruction, I use a concentrated form of Roundup, available from any farm supply store. It helps me out tremendously not having to buy a silly license, and I can guarantee you I get just as good if not better results using my store bought chemicals as the guys do who buy all that high dollar stuff. The granular fertilizer and weed and feed, in my opinion, is better than liquid because it works longer and prevents, where as the liquid relies on contact to kill. With the Roundup I do only use liquid though.

stew6371
04-18-2010, 10:18 PM
I plan on using organic. Better for the earth and the grass. Where I live, I would have to have a license ($50/yr) to use fertilizer commercially and be state certified to use herbacides/pestacides.

mark123
04-19-2010, 12:18 AM
You can do damage with organics just like you can with synthetics. Organic products are not a panacea. They are safer for the most part but don't let that fact allow you to become careless.

picframer
04-19-2010, 05:58 AM
You can do damage with organics just like you can with synthetics. Organic products are not a panacea. They are safer for the most part but don't let that fact allow you to become careless.

Mark, This may be true for synthetic Organics however the Organics that Steve and I use from Natures Lawn Care, there is no way to damage a lawn, I have tried as a test, 6 times the recommended dose every two weeks for 3 applications on my own lawn, the only effect was the grass grew at a crazy rate. I base this on spraying over 200 customers on a regular basis, I needed products that should the staff make a mistake mixing it would not hurt anything, not one negative issue yet.

mark123
04-19-2010, 06:42 AM
Mark, This may be true for synthetic Organics however the Organics that Steve and I use from Natures Lawn Care, there is no way to damage a lawn ... I do agree with you for the most part but harmful substances can still get into the water supply, over fertilization can still occur and some organic products are as or more dangerous to the applicator. Some organic fertilizers can harbor pathogens.

I just would hate to see someone getting into applying organics thinking it's safe for everything and in all situations just because it's organic. That's what I mean by it's not a panacea. I'm just saying there are downsides along with the upsides.

picframer
04-19-2010, 07:20 AM
I do agree with you for the most part but harmful substances can still get into the water supply, over fertilization can still occur and some organic products are as or more dangerous to the applicator. Some organic fertilizers can harbor pathogens.

I just would hate to see someone getting into applying organics thinking it's safe for everything and in all situations just because it's organic. That's what I mean by it's not a panacea. I'm just saying there are downsides along with the upsides.

I would need examples, I have researched ours to death and they do not contain anything harmful, keep in mine 90% of the places we spray have a dug well, even the fertilizer can be viewed as food grade although I am not sure I would drink fish oil and calp.

mark123
04-19-2010, 09:20 AM
OK, I'm trying to be objective. I'm reading from "The Truth About Garden Remedies". All I can offer are a few excerpts.

... I have heard garden gurus suggest that organic fertilizers cannot burn plants like synthetic fertilizers can. Having burned plants with organic fertilizer myself, I can reliably say the gurus are wrong. ... there really isn't anything that would make organic fertilizer behave any differently from synthetic fertilizer. If misapplied, they could still pollute the environment or hurt your plants.

I do believe that organic fertilizers are a good idea but I also believe the science behind synthetic fertilizer is sound. However, I also believe that synthetic fertilizer is very overused and too much is applied by too many people.

I'm not downplaying Nature's Lawn as I believe they make very excellent products and I plan to incorporate them into my business.

What I am trying to get across is that organics should not be used in lieu of safety, common sense or knowing what you're doing.

swstout
04-19-2010, 09:35 AM
OK, I'm trying to be objective. I'm reading from "The Truth About Garden Remedies". All I can offer are a few excerpts.



I do believe that organic fertilizers are a good idea but I also believe the science behind synthetic fertilizer is sound. However, I also believe that synthetic fertilizer is very overused and too much is applied by too many people.

I'm not downplaying Nature's Lawn as I believe they make very excellent products and I plan to incorporate them into my business.

What I am trying to get across is that organics should not be used in lieu of safety, common sense or knowing what you're doing.

Non-organic lawn products are not regulated as far as what is used for fillers in the products. Hazardous wastes are common fillers.

From my blog

http://organiclawncarestore.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!7EFF0A1776EB421!210.entry

Steve

mark123
04-19-2010, 09:41 AM
The crux is this. ... What I am trying to get across is that organics should not be used in lieu of safety, common sense or knowing what you're doing.

swstout
04-19-2010, 10:09 AM
The crux is this.

I couldn't agree more!

Steve