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mark123
03-29-2010, 05:49 PM
I know I'm running out of time for spring applications but I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a hose and reel spray system. Right now I'm running a 4 gallon back pack sprayer. I have a few bucks saved up for a tank but the prices are just barely out of my reach right now. The 4 gallon tank sprays at about .6 gal/1k sq.ft. so it will effectively cover about 6700 sq feet. That's almost ok for most of my lawns.

I've priced Grayson-Clark and Qspray so far. I'm not specifically looking for price savings but Qspray is less expensive and seems to be the better built system (just from reading though, no experience with either). They're just a bit out of my price range right now.

If anyone has a lead on a used setup that would be wonderful. Parts are fine, skid mounted preferred. If not, any suggestions on building one? Blueprints and parts lists? I do require an electric pump as it will be moved from a pickup to a van eventually. I don't think running a gas engine in the van is a smashing idea at all. :p

Thanks for the tips.

swstout
03-29-2010, 06:01 PM
I know I'm running out of time for spring applications but I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a hose and reel spray system. Right now I'm running a 4 gallon back pack sprayer. I have a few bucks saved up for a tank but the prices are just barely out of my reach right now. The 4 gallon tank sprays at about .6 gal/1k sq.ft. so it will effectively cover about 6700 sq feet. That's almost ok for most of my lawns.

I've priced Grayson-Clark and Qspray so far. I'm not specifically looking for price savings but Qspray is less expensive and seems to be the better built system (just from reading though, no experience with either). They're just a bit out of my price range right now.

If anyone has a lead on a used setup that would be wonderful. Parts are fine, skid mounted preferred. If not, any suggestions on building one? Blueprints and parts lists? I do require an electric pump as it will be moved from a pickup to a van eventually. I don't think running a gas engine in the van is a smashing idea at all. :p

Thanks for the tips.

Try this, http://organiclawncarestore.web.officelive.com/Howtouseahoseendsprayer.aspx

2339

about $10.00

Steve

mark123
03-29-2010, 06:18 PM
Do you have a line on a 30 mile long garden hose? ;) Besides how do you dechlorinate water coming from a garden hose?

swstout
03-29-2010, 06:36 PM
Do you have a line on a 30 mile long garden hose? ;) Besides how do you dechlorinate water coming from a garden hose?

I get a pond dechlorinator from Lowe's. A capful in the hose end sprayer does the job of dechlorinating. When You add product to the sprayer just add a capful of it. It's inexpensive and a bottle will last you a season or more.

You only need to dechlorinate when you use the bio-active products such as dethatcher and aerify.

Steve

swstout
03-29-2010, 06:50 PM
2340

smartpond 16 Oz. Water Garden Chlorine Remover

Item #: 161894 | Model #: WTCR16

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Steve

mark123
03-29-2010, 07:11 PM
Fantastic. How about the hose? I'll have to hire someone to stay at my house to turn it on and off. I was under the impression that you had to dechlorinate and let it set for a certain amount of time before it took effect. Don't ask me where I got that idea from though. I have no idea. ;)

Seriously though, I think I need a tank, pump hose and reel. The hose end sprayer isn't practical if you have no access to water.

swstout, I always enjoy your posts and I noticed that you switched your blog from a wordpress to a Windows Live. May I ask why you chose to switch? Just wondering. I just don't like wordpress any longer. If I never have to edit a php file again it'll be too soon.

swstout
03-29-2010, 08:04 PM
I noticed that you switched your blog from a wordpress to a Windows Live. May I ask why you chose to switch? Just wondering. I just don't like wordpress any longer. If I never have to edit a php file again it'll be too soon.

Windowes Live is free and fairly easy to use. I have both still but seem to use the Windows Live now. No particular reason, just complacency I guess.

Steve

J-Rod
03-30-2010, 10:47 PM
You may have problems keeping steady pressure to a electric pump skid system. Most electric pumps I have seen are not rated for hoses longer than about 50ft.
Take a look a Gregson-Clark "spreader mate" sprayer. I saw a guy using one similar to this the other day, the lot size was 1/4 acre at most and he was done in no time. Based on your typical lots being around 7,000 sqft this may be a good option for you.

http://www.gregsonclark.com/spreadermate.html

http://www.permagreen.com/magnum/

mark123
03-31-2010, 03:25 PM
http://www.gregsonclark.com/spreadermate.html I'm not sure that's much better than the back pack.

http://www.permagreen.com/magnum/
I hate the magnum, I wish they'd bring back the Centri. The Centri is so much more agile and controllable. The magnum is perfect on completely flat ground but around here the Centri is king. I wish I could find one.

Even if I were going to go with one of these options I'd still need a tank to fill it.

SuperiorPower
03-31-2010, 05:47 PM
I am a bit confused about what you are looking for.

Am I correct in understanding that you are looking into a skid sprayer?

If you are looking into building your own, are you talking about this kind of tank?

http://www2.northerntool.com/sprayers/sprayer-tanks-2.htm

Here are some other options if this is what you are looking for.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/category_sprayers?cm_ven=natural&cm_cat=netconcepts&cm_pla=Google&cm_ite=sprayer%2Btank

mark123
03-31-2010, 07:13 PM
I'm looking for something like this:
http://images.imaginekitty.com/qspray.jpg

Thanks for the link. I'll have to dig in and see if I can get everything put together. I just have no idea how to plumb it. :)

SuperiorPower
03-31-2010, 09:04 PM
From looking at the photo you posted, it doesn't look like plumbing should be that difficult. As far as using a gasoline engine, it would not be that difficult to modify the muffler to run the exhaust outside, possibly with a muffler attached outside the van body. I have to ask though, why do you want to put it into a van? To me that sounds like a bit of an issue if you were to spill water, fertilizer, etc.

Good luck and let us know what you come up with!
Eli

J-Rod
03-31-2010, 09:29 PM
Mark

I could be wrong but I don't think that is a lawn sprayer. A friend of mine is in the pressure washing business and uses a similar setup to send detergent to his washer. Notice their are no pressure gauges or return line on the unit, you just simply turn on the pump and open the valve on the end of the hose when you need solution.

How long do you need the reel to be? As I stated earlier most 12v pumps will only create the pressure needed for about 50 ft of hose. Small gas rigs, say around 3hp can only pressurize 1/2 hose at about 100ft. Not sure of your budget but 5+ hp skid sprayers are can run you several thousand dollars but can accomidate most any location.

As for a fill tank the rig in the picture would be perfect minus the hose reel. If you can find an old tank and electric pumps are under $100 new.

mark123
03-31-2010, 11:02 PM
... I could be wrong but I don't think that is a lawn sprayer. It does seem to be missing the pressure relief and return. Good catch. That's the basic setup I want though.

How long do you need the reel to be? As I stated earlier most 12v pumps will only create the pressure needed for about 50 ft of hose. ... I worked for a fert and squirt company for 9 years. We used electric pumps with 300' of 1/2" hose all day long. They're spendy but they make electric pumps for this purpose.

I found a used setup with a gas powered pump. No reason I can't use gas until I get the van.

mark123
03-31-2010, 11:07 PM
From looking at the photo you posted, it doesn't look like plumbing should be that difficult. As far as using a gasoline engine, it would not be that difficult to modify the muffler to run the exhaust outside, possibly with a muffler attached outside the van body.I actually thought of that but I was thinking I'd end up spilling gas in the van and have to smell that all day. That's no fun. Is that driving under the influence (of gas fumes)? LOL


I have to ask though, why do you want to put it into a van? To me that sounds like a bit of an issue if you were to spill water, fertilizer, etc. I've never seen a local company that didn't use a van. It seems to be the perfect setup. At my old job we used to have:
A Chevy 3500 van.
200 gallon tank, electric pump, 300' hose.
An Anderson spreader and 20 bags of fertilizer in the back.
A permagreen hitch ramp for either a Centri or a Magnum.

That covered every situation.

Steve
04-01-2010, 03:35 AM
It would be sweet to use an electric pump and then have a way to fill the tank from outside.

Cut a hole in the side of the van, get a fuel door from a junk yard and weld it in.

Ohhh that would be so sweet. Then no spillage inside the van :)

mark123
04-01-2010, 03:57 AM
... Cut a hole in the side of the van, get a fuel door from a junk yard and weld it in. ...
Man, that's a fantastic idea! If I could also get a gas pump nozzle I can set it and forget it. It'll shut off when it's full!

Steve
04-01-2010, 04:12 AM
You could put a toilet bowl float in the tank and then have it so once the float raises, it shuts off the incoming water.

mark123
04-01-2010, 03:10 PM
You could put a toilet bowl float in the tank and then have it so once the float raises, it shuts off the incoming water.

Hmm. Then I could adjust it for different levels, too!

Steve
04-01-2010, 07:52 PM
I look forwards to seeing what you put together!