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psparaco
02-03-2010, 08:04 PM
Ok. I was driving to the store for my fiance and i had a bright idea.

I thought back to December 19, 2009 when baltimore, maryland recieved 22 inches of snow and I lost several clients due to not being able to get out for several hours from being snowed in myself. I dont own a truck nor have access to one.

Several Weather sites online and local news is calling for 12-18 inches of snow for the Baltimore, Maryland region. Regardless if i park in my driveway thats in the alley or on the main road. I am still stuck until they plow which could be whenever and when they do, they will probably block me in again with a wall of snow and December 19th will come back to haunt me.

Here is my BRIGHT IDEA...... I own a pair of skiis and everything needed for skiing. The boots, bindings, ski's and poles, ski goggles, snow suit. the whole 9 yards for skiing. Now i won't be able to utilize my gas powered snow blower. However, If i am snowed in and can't drive anywhere...... I could put my skis on and tie a rope around my waist. The other end to a sled with my shovel and a bag of salt in it and do cross country style skiing to the customer's property. I calculated the distance to the several clients I know will want snow removal. 1 is about 1 mile away and 3 others within 1/2 to 1/4 mile away. Average walking speed is 3-4 mph if i can average that or better. I could take me at most 20 minutes or less to arrive at each location. I would also need to carry my boots with me but i may just remain in my ski boots.

Ok pro's I am mobile and will get tons of exercise.

cons: I do not own a sled. Not sure on the rope. I think i have tow rope for a car in the basement. worse comes to worse. I tie the rope to a snow shovel and drag it behind me and thats it.

fiance thinks I am out of my mind. My daught told me " Daddy your crazy"

Now i would like to see everyone's thoughts, comments and questions.

mortonslawn
02-03-2010, 10:30 PM
If that doggie is yours, you should take him/her with you. Wow! Your customers are lucky that you would go through all that trouble just for them. I hope they have a nice hot cup of cocoa waiting for you when you finish shoveling all that snow. Don't you have a friend with a truck that could give you a lift over there? Shoveling snow is fun! Don't you have somone to help? Well, good luck and stay warm & dry. Keep your head covered and feet warm. That's important. :)

calvinslawnservice
02-03-2010, 10:42 PM
I will say this is a good idea but it has a couple of kinks. One is do you have downhill skis or cross country skis? If you have downhill skis, you will have quite a work out, just try it around the yard a couple of times. If you have cross country skis, your one step ahead of downhill skis. My main concern would be the weight of the sled. Its going to be tough just pulling it.

I would give it a try in your yard, before you make any commitments.

Just my 2 cents

Calvin

psparaco
02-03-2010, 11:26 PM
after further research. It looks like it may just be my shovel and thats it. They are downhill skis. I live in a flat area. My home is at an elevation of 18 ft above sea level. 3 clients are at 27 ft about 1/2 mile away. the 1 thats 1 mile away is at 12 ft. so its relatively flat. My entire area is flat. i love it. unlike where i grew up at. I wish the dog was mine. that pic was a random pic i found on line to show the idea. I just dont want to lose any money like i did back on dec 19th. I lost out of $150. This time of year i need every penny i can. summer isnt a problem with lawn care. time for bed. and to tweak my bright idea. lol.

The Cleaning Doctor
02-04-2010, 12:56 AM
Snow Shoes!

The Cleaning Doctor
02-04-2010, 01:31 AM
Here is a new logo for you.... LOL

Steve
02-04-2010, 03:12 AM
If you had a snow blower, You could cut a path to some of those houses with it and I bet everyone along the way would flag you down to snow blow their property.

CHEESE2009
02-04-2010, 04:08 AM
Hahaha!

That is insane!!!

Just imagine wearing all your winter gear, hiking to your first customer, preparing to shovel.

After your exhausted, the next thing on your list is the hike to the next customer & repeat.

Your idea could work I suppose, but you'd be in hell for the most part. Imagine having a horrible nights sleep, then having to do all of this activity?

Don't forget, you'd need to bring a few snacks & beverages, you'd be fatigued in seconds.

Also, once you get wet, you are wet until the work day is over.

Imagine when you do finish work, wouldn't it feel like a waste of time heading back home? It'd be tedious!

When I'm done work, I wanna get home a.s.a.p! You'd be out there like a champ for awhile!

If I were you, I would lose so much morale as I see cars going by so much faster than myself.

Worst case scenario, your shovel breaks, your sled cord snaps, you lose tools...

psparaco
02-04-2010, 08:34 AM
Snow Shoes!

I considered going to sports authority or dick's sporting good and getting snow shoes. But being tight on money canceled that idea out. Excellent idea doc.


If you had a snow blower, You could cut a path to some of those houses with it and I bet everyone along the way would flag you down to snow blow their property.


I seriously considered that for those within a block of me and may just do that. I plan to do clear my sidewalks and driveway atleast 3-4 times during the duration of the storm. Most customers that i shovel for expect me to only do it when its all said and done and can't afford to pay me for 4 visits. I am thinking of telling them i can either do it for but i will be coming out for 2 visits. 1 to clear and treat the surface with salt and a final visit to clear the rest. pricing varies as it has with each storm. My rates vary based on if its a dry or wet snow and how much we get.the heavier the snow. the higher the rate. dry snow up to 12 inches i normally charge 20 front and back. wet snow over 8 inches i charge 40 per visit If we get what they are caling for 18-24 inches. I may have to come out 2-4 times and with the salt application. may allow me to only come out twice. I am still working the numbers now.

Hahaha!

That is insane!!!

Just imagine wearing all your winter gear, hiking to your first customer, preparing to shovel.

After your exhausted, the next thing on your list is the hike to the next customer & repeat.

Your idea could work I suppose, but you'd be in hell for the most part. Imagine having a horrible nights sleep, then having to do all of this activity?

Don't forget, you'd need to bring a few snacks & beverages, you'd be fatigued in seconds.

Also, once you get wet, you are wet until the work day is over.

Imagine when you do finish work, wouldn't it feel like a waste of time heading back home? It'd be tedious!

When I'm done work, I wanna get home a.s.a.p! You'd be out there like a champ for awhile!

If I were you, I would lose so much morale as I see cars going by so much faster than myself.

Worst case scenario, your shovel breaks, your sled cord snaps, you lose tools...

I know the idea is insane. When i was teenager and i did lawns I used roller blades with my self propelled mower and let the mower pull me around the yard. The concept worked except for hills. Thank god i only tried it out on my parent's lawn and not anywhere else.

My idea your right could work and i woudl be in hell. I try to goto bed extra early the night before a snow storm. I forgot about the drinks and snacks. As for wanting to go back home asap. not me. When i cleared my property last week, i out for 2-3 hours clearing. driving around clearing driving around. My theory. I dont want to strip my clothes off until i am done and can rest for a few hours.

Also I normally wear 2 pair of sweat pants, pair of pants then my waterproof snow pants. Top i have on tshirt, sweatshirt and my ski jacket. I ski mask plus my built in ski jacket's waterproof hood. Then i got my ski goggles and waterproof ski gloves. The only part of me exposed to the air is little part of my face when my goggles are off. When i skiied. I always wore enough clothes so i could ski for 2-4 hours without stopping. Unlesss of course i had to go to the bathroom. That part sucks.



Overall.

I decided i am going to get my skis. I do intend to try them out in my back yard. There is a 30% chance i wont ski to customers to shovel and a 70% that after testing them i'll cancel the idea out. Worse comes to worst, I can use them to goto the store when we need more food.

thanks for everyone's input. helped alot. Love the logo you made doc. something to consider if i do do the ski idea. but the odds of me doing it are highly unlikely.

I'll let yall know after the storm what i ended up doing.

paul

CHEESE2009
02-04-2010, 11:00 AM
Someone has to say it, YOU ARE AWESOME!

When I did snow removal for the first time a ways back, my truck was basically out of order.

I couldn't pass up the chance to bring in my income, so I just considered not having a vehicle a minor set back.

I had driveways miles away from each other, & I was on call. So I'd be half way across the town & receive a call on the other side of town.

Honestly, business was good. Not only that, I really got in touch with myself. I felt like a champion taking on mother natures worst.

It was great exercise & my showers had never been better.

I felt as if I had no responsibility other that the fact my clients driveways must be cleared! I felt like a super hero.

Some days, I'd walk my 8mph snow blower with a gas can all over the place, I looked pretty dumb, haha.

The best advice I could give you, which will improve your business 50%:

BRING A MUSIC PLAYER!!!!

I'm serious, listening to the right music will improve your work. If you listen to Rocky theme music, you will stay strong throughout the time you are working & push yourself harder than ever!

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The Cleaning Doctor
02-04-2010, 04:33 PM
You know the funny thing about their logic is that even if you clear the driveway or sidewalk, where are they going to go? When I was in AK clearing snow from the roads I had people stop me all the time to get them unstuck and I would tell them no. When they asked me why I would tell them because you will just get stuck in the road and be in my way, after I clear the road I will be back and get you unstuck.

psparaco
02-04-2010, 09:07 PM
ok here a few results of my research. picked up the skis and tested them out in the back yard and boy my feet are sore just from moving around. but overall the concept worked. i have one sure client for this weekend. she is a nurse and wil be staying at the hospital, so she prepaid me my money and expects her place cleared by the end of the storm, so i will do everything in my power to see that it gets done. as for getting there. i think i may just walk if i cant drive. skiing is fun but clearing snow in ski boots would be a major beach. on a higher note. my landlord's maintence dept has my name and number and may be calling me for snow removal to work for them. Hey its extra money and i'll be clearing the apartment complexe and sidewalks and roads. they use their own maintenance people to do the snow removal and hire some extra bodies for help and its all cash so cant beat that. the pay sucks but if i dont get alot of snow removals signed up and those too far away to get to . i am better off helping them making something versus sitting at home making nothing. something is better than nothing my fiance said. I may also we allowed to use my snow blower but i need to find out if they will re-emburse me for the fuel.

Steve
02-05-2010, 02:03 AM
Well keep us posted how it all works during this upcoming snow fall.

psparaco
02-05-2010, 02:00 PM
well latest forecast. 12-24 inches. the majority wil begin to lay tonight after 10 which mean i gotta wait. it started snowing around 11:30am. and nothing is laying so looks like we'll be expecting a sheet of ice on the ground under the snow in the morning. i may do 1 or 2 snow removal and salt applications around 11pm. just use the shovel so i dont wake anyone up. I already pre-treated my property and another one i am taking care of prior to the storm getting here around 10am this mornign. so hopefully the salt doesnt wash away and will help with the clearing process. I learned a neat trick to keep snow from sticking to your shovels. I read to spray cooking spray like pam or petroleum jelly on the shovel and the snow will slide off. Has anyone else done this before and how efficiently does it work? I'll be here just watching and waiting for temps to drop. The calm storm before the blizzard. I hate waiting sometimes. lol.

Steve
02-06-2010, 12:05 AM
You should get some photos of your setup to show us what you were doing.


I read to spray cooking spray like pam or petroleum jelly on the shovel and the snow will slide off. Has anyone else done this before and how efficiently does it work?

I don't know! I never experimented with that but it would make sense.

psparaco
02-06-2010, 09:40 PM
omg i sprayed my shovels and snow blower chute and auger with WD40 and it worked like a charm. the snow just flew off the shovels like it was on fire and shot out the chute twice as far. grant it i had to make 4-5 passes on 1 row to clear but overall it worked great. I managed to clear my sidewalks, driveway, porches, etc. in like 2-3 hours of the blower and shoveling. While i was out i got several calls for snow removal. My fiance was pissed by the end of the day to the fact the phone never stopped ringing. So for Sunday and monday i have 9-10 snow removal contracts lined up. I am extremely excited. My fiance is going to help me with the majority of them and luckly 1 of my contracts is my daughter's classmate. so she can chill there while we do 4 of them. as of now, my car is gone. its under a huge pile of drifting snow. all you can see is 1 window. didnt take no pics though. might tomorrow. before i leave the house. after clearing the sidewalk to my driveway. i have 6-8 foot snow piles next to the sidewalk. So gotta dig out my car in the morning and clear 1 property. then come in rest and get warm for an hour then back out to do 4 more. then home to rest and maybe 1 more. then the rest on monday. all i know is tomororw night and monday night i expect to be exhausted. according to the news. we got between 26inches at bwi airport to 35 inches is local spots. in my backyard i believe i got 28 inches. anyone want some snow.? $10 per cubic foot. lmao. just kidding.

Steve
02-07-2010, 04:38 AM
What did you ultimately do to get your equipment around? How did it work out?

psparaco
02-07-2010, 09:24 AM
I am going to me walking mostly. Since the streets are only plowed with 1 lane. There no where to park my car and i cant double park and block the road. so its look like its going to alot of walking today. Gotta do what I gotta do. But i am heading out now. I slept in a little cause iw as a little sore from yesterday. But i'l catch up with yall later.

paul

psparaco
02-07-2010, 08:06 PM
Well I was only able to do 2 snow removals. OMG that snow is heavy. My snow blower is useless since anything over 8 inches, it jams the auger. One client i must have walked almost a mile up and back on top of shoveling. Luckily the other was right behind me. Then after i warmed up and my clothes were dry. I helped my fiance dig out our car. That was a nitemare. I may have a few more to do tomorrow but i serious need a nice relaxing hot bath. I am pooped. Top it off they are calling for another 8 inches or more on tuesday night. yay me. IS IT SPRING YET? I AM SICK OF SNOW.

Steve
02-08-2010, 04:19 AM
Did you get a chance to look around and see what others were doing to remove the snow? Was anything looking like a better way to do it?

CHEESE2009
11-16-2012, 05:30 PM
I GOT AN IDEA!!!

Put a sulky on your snowblower!!

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXeSfDkknW0vI8rinwy-ewJHHyaHB0AZBeo7guZu_EKo-96QxuRZfUCrnBwg

I AM THE GOD OF THOUGHTS! YESSSS!!!

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However, you will need some pretty decent tires on the snowblower... They have trouble getting over large snow mounds... Maybe it'd work better if you bought a snowblower with tracks.

http://www.mayberrys.com/honda/snow/Images/hs1132.jpg

SECTLANDSCAPING
11-16-2012, 06:48 PM
I got a better one. Get 4 or 5 dogs and a sleigh. **** you might even be able to hook a pull plow to it.

I would buy a truck and plow before I ever thought of this. I dont even like walking to my truck in the cold. I couldnt envision myself skiing.

Steve
11-19-2012, 11:00 AM
Scott, what if you made a sulky with skis instead of wheels?

You could call it the 'Skiky.'

CHEESE2009
11-19-2012, 11:01 AM
Scott, what if you made a sulky with skis instead of wheels?

You could call it the 'Skiky.'

That'd probably work much better! Maybe cut the skis down to size so that you can turn in and out of the driveway when using the snowblower.